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Bocephus
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Does anyone realize that some of our finest citizens enroll into schools of this type just so they can recieve nice fat "overage" checks after the grants and student loans pay the tuition etc.. this can amout to thousands of dollars a semester/quarter not saying all of the students or that this is who cinci state is targeting but there are a few schools out there localy that could care less what kind of people the recruit as long as they get the money. |
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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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Recently I did an extensive interview with Leslie Horst PhD from Maguire Associates, Inc. regarding everything Cincinnati State Middletown Campus from curriculum to advertising.
The questions were pretty much on target from a business owner point of view. They actually were interested in what classes and degrees would be most helpful for the business community in general and my business specifically. I have to say it did give me an overall warm feeling about Cincinnati State coming to Middletown. I only hope they follow through on their lofty goals. For the record, I would like to see more students graduating that have better computer and written communication skills. Also business law, finance, accounting, marketing, operations, HR, otj safety. As a sales and marketing firm we would like to see students have well built social profiles and the skills to help our efforts. If you know someone with good Google+, Twitter or Facebook numbers, please have them contact us web@xponex.com or http://www.rentacomputer.com/careers ------------- PS. To help students gain employment I think HS students ought to be taught how to apply for a job, how to be a good employee (common sense skills), and about profit and loss & balance sheet statements so they realize that profit isn't a bad thing. |
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Bill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710 |
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Have they even announced which classes you can take from the Mtown location? That might be a reason many aren't banging down their doors. Plus they're still renovating the place and a student can't even see where they will take some classes.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Ok, 80 students so far out of the projected 200 to start. I don't know. It just seems like when I read this article, the comments don't suggest a strong certainty from O'Dell and the Cincy State folks. Kinda like a "grit the teeth/cross the fingers" and hope versus a more confident posture on student interest and commitment. Almost like they are searching for something to trigger a more positive response than what they are receiving so far. Hope it works out for them and all of us "doubters" are wrong. Still don't think that this is the magical elixir to cure the downtown ills. Cincy State, the PAC, Beau Verre and whatever residuals come from those, will, IMO, still not draw enough interest to create a real draw. Gotta have something to offer the masses rather than special interests like the arts folks and students. Just not enough of them to make a difference. IMO, an effort in the East End would have been more beneficial to Middletown.
Let's see how the Cincy casino does down there and if successful, bring real crowds to the downtown area by pushing one of our own. IMO, that would be a real catalyst to build the downtown on. People flock to where money is flowing and where they would have a chance to win. Residuals like hotels, restaurants and entertainment would follow with considerable traffic flow. Ain't nothing flowing now in the downtown area. Look at what we have now. Whatta we got to lose? JMO |
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Bocephus
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 838 |
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The world is crashing all around us due to corrupt politicians,unions and corporations etc.. and this is the crap they allways print.How about some real news for a change.
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Bill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710 |
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Another non-story Journal fluff piece.
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From MJ: Middletown campus seen as boost to Cincy State’s student retentionBy Michael D. Pitman, Staff Writer 9:05 PM Tuesday, May 22, 2012 CINCINNATI – Cincinnati State Middletown will play a key role in the college’s goal to bring back high-performing students who have dropped out, said college President Dr. O’dell Owens. Retaining and recruiting students is crucial part in Cincinnati State Technical & Community College’s strategic plan, Owens said. He said the school plans to contact students who dropped out but were high performers — students with a 3.0 or higher grade point average. “A lot of good students drop out,” Owens said. From fall 2005 to fall 2008, 23 percent of the students who dropped out were high achievers, said Owens. “Middletown certainly is a way of doing that,” he said because it will be another option for students who had dropped out. Cincinnati State’s retention rate is 46 percent, 13 points below the state average and nine points below the national average. The reasons students withdraw from school, Owens said, are not academic. It’s mostly because of either work or family commitments or the cost, he said. Cincinnati State Board of Trustee President Cathy Crain said the Middletown campus will be an asset not only for Middletown, but for Cincinnati State. “We would like to see an increased student population and we believe Middletown will allow that,” she said. Cincinnati State has invested in making the Middletown campus successful, said college spokeswoman Jean Manning. And she believes the marketing strategies will help the school reach the goal of 200 students when the Middletown branch opens on Aug. 29. Because of marketing — two mailers to about 80,000 households, print and radio advertising, and regular information sessions — Manning said as of Tuesday the school has 80 prospective students who have applied to Cincinnati State Middletown. “And as soon as this (third mailer on) grant tuition information gets into people’s hands, we expect to see that rise quickly,” she said. Crain said a by-product of marketing will also help recruitment, and possibly bring back some dropped out students. “We believe Middletown is extraordinarily excited about having us, and we’re excited about being there,” she said. “I think that the word of mouth, just in the community alone, will help us.” |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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Bill, sj, Vivian Moon, so many have gotten this right. The city is focusing on downtown for the free fed money. And of course, the composition of city council and the cit leaders who walk to Donham. No PhD in nuclear physics required to comprehend this right?
The east end, to Vet's pt, was never funded by fed $$$. The bridge was, but not the fed government never provided infrastructure funds further east. The state gave 50% matching funds, and the city diverted its meager funds from road repair from all over the city, into matching the state funds for the widening and the wrok to benefit Fenwick and the Atrium. Pretty much par for the course, but the road $$$ came from Ohio Vet, not the fed. Maybe someone should tell loudmouth AJ Smith, between that move, and the $5 M they gave McNeil for the hospital from the road fund, that's why the city roads are a disgrace, as well as the cowardness of putting the ordinance back in place where it was in 1986. Taxes don't solve that problem Smith. Recall: there is a saying---"you can bring the horse to the water, but you can't force the horse to drink the water." Maybe I should have used Kool-aid. There is plenty of land out by Atrium, but the Atrium bought a huge portion of it. The remaining plots aren't used. A 100 acres or so could be used for an industrial park, but frankly, it is Neyer's responsibility and the land owner, to sell it. Obviously, very few businesses are attracted to Middletown. Its not that the effort has not been made, it has. The fact is businesses simply avoid Middletown with a plague. You all should know why, including business owners out on the downtown peripheral. City hasn't been so kind to you have they? Hell, the city at one time was going to have banners placed on trucks driving up and down the interstate with the Bright Past, Brighter Future logo, that's probably happening now. But, no one wants in Middletown, no one. So east end failed, like the city mall failed, like every sitting council failed, like every city leader has failed. Middltown's had many losing city councils, but this current bunch takes the prize by a long shot. Ask Steve Posey, Mike Dickerson, Martin Bidwell, Lenny Robinson, and many, many others, what their view of Middletown to be. I have, I know it, and the fact land sits illuminates a great deal. In sum, fed $$$ cannot go into east end. Secondly, Middletown is a central 75 pipe not enjoying the benefit of feeder intersections, ie, 275, 75, 71, 75, 675. It won't ever be a success. Renaissance a failure. Who wants Middletown's taxes and lack of services, and hit every 2-3 years with all these tax levies? No one. I've been told it won't be long before AK's R & D moves out. They are asking Wainscott---"what's the deal---you guys pay no local taxes, we get stuck with what will be 2.0%, we are getting screwed." Those conversations have been occurring for a few years now, and they finally got their SunCoke deal, so next to bolt---AK R&D. The east end is dead, and why as Bill said, and sj, why the downtown gets the focus. Its where the free fed cash for a clunker town can be found and used. East end can't get fed $$$ even for roads. But, the bridge overpass on 75 looks simply marvelous (said with satirical tone). As for MMF, did they not buy the unemployment office that ODJFS shut down? Or maybe they bought high on the facebook opening on their IPO. Lets s, $75,000 divided by $38.00 share, is how many shares they now own? |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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cincy st is the latest reason(excuse) to keep all $$ funnelled to the core downtown enablers, since they are the only people who support Council/Admin. + the east end has no direction whatsoever and is too expensive to push now.
$5,000 more per storefront improvements downtown? For whom? Send it up the street a few blocks to my place and the active businesses on Central that actually do local business! Repair my smashed-in front door from last week(and the damage at Diver's)! The city leaders have lost all credibility and need to be replaced. Where is MMF, and how has our $75,000 been used?
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Ok Bill. They're separate as to funding. But what happened to the funding that was meant for the I-75 development? Surely there were some fed funds for that project. Did the city exhaust the money supply? The work has just stopped out there. Why? ALL THE ATTENTION has now been given to the downtown area. Resurrecting the downtown dinosaur as opposed to growing an area with more potential. Downtown should not be at the top of the priority list for econ. dev. Isn't going to help Middletown as much as developing the more highly visible East End. Why hasn't Middletown followed the lead from West Chester and all the other towns along the corridor and concentrated on the entrance to the city? Looks like the town has been abandoned on the east side of the freeway. Why do the city leaders insist on downtown concentration (other than to cater to the S. Main St. crowd of course) |
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Bill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710 |
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The downtown focus is soley tied to the fed funds. None available for the east end.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Today's Journal...
Downtown Middletown property owners can receive aid for exterior repairs Downtown Facade Grant Program is allocated to spend up to $50K total MIDDLETOWN — Any downtown property owner looking to make facade improvements might be able to get some financial help from the city and Downtown Middletown Inc. DMI has taken over the reins to administer the Downtown Facade Grant Program, which provides grants to assist downtown business owners to improve their exterior look. “People rarely want to go into a business that doesn’t look good on the exterior,” said DMI Director Patrick Kay. “If you have a really nice, attractive look in the front of your business, you’re going to get more business.” YES KAY, AN ATTRACTIVE STOREFRONT HELPS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THE NEED BY THE CUSTOMER FOR THE PRODUCT YOU'RE OFFERING, THE GUARANTEE AND QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT YOU'RE OFFERING AND THE FOLLOW-UP SERVICE YOU OFFER TO THE CUSTOMER. And that’s works to the ultimate goal of DMI: to have a vibrant, active downtown Middletown. “We’re trying to get as many benefits as possible for businesses that chose to relocate down here,” Kay said. “We are here to support the existing businesses.” "VIBRANT ACTIVE DOWNTOWN"? THEN, YOU BETTER START THINKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF ALL THE TRINKLET SHOPS AND STOREFRONTS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE BEING USED AS STORAGE UNITS AND SOMEPLACE FOR THE OWNERS TO PLACE THEIR JUNK AS YOU DRIVE DOWN CENTRAL AVE. IF THE OWNERS ARE GOING TO STORE JUNK IN FRONT OF THE WINDOWS, YA MIGHT WANT TO ASK THEM TO PLACE BLINDS IN THE WINDOWS. THE AREA FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO VERITY PARKWAY DOWN CENTRAL COULD STAND SOME CLEANING UP, ESPECIALLY THE AREA FROM CURTIS ST. DOWN TO VERITY. ACROSS VERITY ISN'T BAD EXCEPT FOR THE EMPTY STOREFRONTS. JUST WONDERING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO TRY NEXT THAT HASN'T BEEN TRIED BEFORE TO MAKE THE DOWNTOWN "VIBRANT" AND WORTH GOING DOWN THERE FOR. SOME OF THOSE STOREFRONTS HAVE BEEN EMPTY SINCE THE 70'S. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO KAY BESIDES TALK IT TO DEATH? APPARENTLY, WE HAVE ALL BUT ABANDONED THE ONCE HIGHLY PRIZED TOWNE MALL AREA AND EAST OF I-75. THE DOWNTOWN FOCUS SHOULD COME AFTER THE I-75 CORRIDOR HAS BEEN ENHANCED. IMO, THEY HAVE IT REVERSED. SHOULDN'T THE AREA WITH THE HIGHEST VISIBILITY BE TAKEN CARE OF FIRST? BETTER YET, AREN'T THEY CAPABLE OF TAKING CARE OF BOTH AT THE SAME TIME OR ARE THE CITY PLANNING AND ECON. DEV. PEOPLE TOTALLY INCAPABLE OF MULTI-TASKING? |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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We have all watched over the past several years as the business plan for the I-75 interchange was placed on the back burner and Towne Mall became an unsightly ghost town to greet those coming to our fair city. All of this while the City once again focused on the revitalization of “Their Downtown”.
We were told in December 2011 that we had to pass a levy because we were going broke. The citizens were also told that we did not have any extra money to set aside to repair the streets…and yet money continues to flow into “Their Downtown”. Over the past several years how much money has really been invested in the revitalization of “Their Downtown”? What has been the real cost of bringing How many jobs will be created by our investment in The links below are the accounting for the Downtown Fund only and they tell a much different story than City Hall and the Middletown Journal have been reporting to the citizens of http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohcmiddl/DowntownFund-2010.htm http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohcmiddl/DowntownFund-2011.htm http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohcmiddl/DowntownFund-2012.htm |
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Richard Saunders
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 30 2010 Status: Offline Points: 232 |
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"Between four to 10 people attended the sessions, and while the numbers are lower than desired it’s not reflective on the interest in Cincinnati State Middletown, she said."
"Between four to 10 people" but they couldn't track this massive number any closer over 9 and a half hours? These "numbers are lower than desired," but they are "not reflective on the interest in Cincinnati State Middletown?" Hardly anyone shows up, but that is not reflective of the interest? I'd bet that if only "four to ten" people showed up during a nine hour period at a protest against the current city administration, the Journal would find it "relective on the interest" against same. Do Mulligan, Mort, and Gilleland censor these Journal articles prior to publication?
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409
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From MJ:
Cincinnati State holding sessions for prospective studentsBy Michael D. Pitman, Staff Writer 8:44 PM Wednesday, May 16, 2012 MIDDLETOWN — Heather Jestice wants to enroll in Cincinnati State Middletown this fall to correct a regret. The 34-year Middletown mother of five — three sons and two stepsons — dropped out at Sinclair Community College in Dayton in 1999 after investing five years of her life at the school. “This is at the top of my regret list, and I’m trying to fix it,” said Jestice, who plans to study medical coding so she can work from home. “This is the first time I’ve been able to do anything about (going back to school) with the kids and working.” Jestice attended Wednesday morning’s “Get There” session, which are held twice a day — at 9 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. — every first and third Wednesday of the month in City Council Chambers at the city building, One Donham Plaza. They are designed to provide information to prospective Cincinnati State students for the Middletown campus, said Gretchen Kolp, the college’s admissions representative leading the information sessions. Between four to 10 people attended the sessions, and while the numbers are lower than desired it’s not reflective on the interest in Cincinnati State Middletown, she said. “We just want to be sure we’re providing the information to the citizens of Middletown and the region,” said Kolp, a 2002 Middletown graduate. The college plans to open this fall with more than 200 students enrolled, and Kolp said they are on pace to reach that goal. The school will begin holding information sessions on Saturday, the first three are set for 9 a.m. on June 16, July 21 and Aug. 18. Derris Payne, 29, recently moved to Trenton, but that increased his commute to Sinclair Community College’s Courseview Campus in Mason to an hour. He’s spent the last 18 months at the school studying computer information systems, and he wants to continue that field of study at Cincinnati State Middletown. “As high as gas is, it’s killing me,” said Payne, who’s commute to downtown Middletown will be about 12 minutes. The deadline to apply for the fall semester is July 1, though applications for the fall will be accepted after the deadline. Kolp said the July 1 deadline is to ensure the financial aid application is processed in time for the beginning of the fall semester on Aug. 29. Anyone interested in becoming a student at Cincinnati State Middletown are invited to attend the sessions. For more information, call (513) 705-1604. |
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Vivian Moon
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Bill
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One of the challenges is remembering that it is there. I'm as guilty as the next person of habitually running out to I-75 area (if not out of town) to eat at one of the chains out there.
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Chris Fiora
MUSA Resident Joined: Mar 16 2010 Location: Middletown OH Status: Offline Points: 62 |
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acclaro,
Well said. I see it the same way. The Bistro will be a success provided they can give the people what they want. If the success of the Red Onion is an indication they will be able to do that. Provided Stefano's keeps up their quality, service, etc, they will continue to be successful. There are more than enough people in Middletown with enough disposable income to support the two of them and Brown's Run.
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acclaro
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I know of at least 10 families in Middletown that have net worth of over $50 Mm, or .5 unit folks, as we call them in a Texas, a unit is $100 Mm net worth, so Ross Perot would be a 100 unit cowboy.
There are more than enough professional individuals to keep both the Bistro and Stefano's hopping. The question will be are those with ample disposable income going to be spread out in numbers enough 6 nights a week, to make a profit for Bistro, Stefano's, and the others around? That's a matter only of the desire to eat out. I can walk in LasRosa's on Wednesday, and only see 2-3 people eating in an hr and a half. The money is in the city to support two restaurants. But, the money has the food tab at Brown's Run to make each month, I think I pay about $60.00 there, and is it worth tipping $20.00 each week for a bill. But, there are enough with more than ample disposable income to fill the house every night. Its up to Stefano and the Bistro to get them there. |
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Bill
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Off the rails again....who ever said Stained was supposed to cater to the few dozen Cincy St kids? I've read no mention that their target market is 22 years with little money.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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They're college kids. Unless Mom and Dad give 'em money for that $8 gourmet hamburger, they'll be heading for the McDonalds drive thru for those $1 double cheesburgers. I would imagine the same would apply to most of Middletown on the salaries people make in this town. Probably no gourmet food on their plates either. Again, the new restaurant, judging by the description of food given and the atmosphere chosen, probably will only interest a small percentage of the population of this town. JMO |
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Richard Saunders
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We’re going to have a hybrid where a lot of our courses will be online,” he said.I wonder how many of those online students will be coming downtown for a $8 hamburger after class?
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Vivian Moon
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From the MJ:
Colleges pour millions into constructionMore than $461M will be invested in area campus construction projects.By Meagan Pant, Staff Writer 12:06 AM Monday, May 7, 2012 More than $461 million will be invested in new buildings and major renovations on college campuses in the region in the coming years, bringing businesses to the area and signaling the continued growth of the higher education industry locally. “Companies go where there is talent. By us ensuring that we have strong talent coming out of our higher education facilities, we are locking in one of those economic development tools that we need to attract and retain businesses,” said Chris Kershner, a local expert on public policy and economic development. With a mix of public funding, private donations, institutions’ resources and public-private partnerships, local colleges and universities are engaged in multimillion-dollar projects creating all types of jobs from architects to skilled labor, said Sean Creighton, executive director of the Southwestern Ohio Council for Higher Education. After two years of no funding from the state for capital improvements, Ohio has dedicated $400 million to infrastructure of its 37 public colleges and universities. The work is important in meeting the demands of increasing enrollment and attracting new students, educators say. Excerpt:Cincinnati State Technical & Community College Nearly $3.07 million is being invested in Cincinnati State’s new downtown Middletown branch campus. At least 200 students will be taking classes there this fall in the former CG&E building, the school’s first branch campus in Butler County. |
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