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    Posted: Apr 08 2015 at 4:50pm

Posted: 3:49 p.m. Wednesday, April 8, 2015

Absentee landlords concerned with new nuisance law

Adkins: ‘We’re not going to put up with this for very long’

By Ed Richter

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MIDDLETOWN 

    Some absentee landlords have already contacted Middletown officials about a new chronic nuisance ordinance that has yet to be passed.

    During Tuesday’s Middletown City Council meeting, the new chronic nuisance ordinance received a first reading. City Manager Doug Adkins said a recent Journal-News article about the proposed ordinance prompted a couple of absentee landlords to make inquiries of the police and community revitalization departments about it.

    Adkins said one landlord who lives outside of Dayton asked if the news was true. When told that it was, Adkins said the landlord told him, “I’m going to sell my property and get out of Middletown. I don’t want to mess with this.” A second landlord, who called and found out the city was serious about penalizing property owners for not mowing tall grass when notified, said he was going to evict his tenant and get the property cleaned up because he did not want to deal with the ramifications.

    Adkins said the proposed ordinance, which was developed by city officials from similar ordinances across the state, is designed to keep track of those properties that generate higher than normal calls for city services by way of code enforcement violations and/or criminal activity. The proposed ordinance was also reviewed by local landlords as well.

    Adkins said a chronic nuisance ordinance attempts to identify those particular properties by reviewing and collecting nuisances registered across all city departments, then city officials notify the owner that his property is becoming a nuisance to the neighborhood. He said the proposed ordinance would enable the city to take action against the owner to recover ongoing future city costs in responding to and abating those nuisances if the owner chooses not to take action to correct the situation.

    “The idea is to make sure the owner knows that his property is becoming a problem before it escalates, and then to make sure that either the problem is resolved or that the city is reimbursed for future costs responding to problems at that property,” Adkins said.

    It also keeps track across city departments on properties that are becoming chronic nuisance problems and blighting the city, he said. It also keeps property owners accountable.

    “It’s the simple idea that we’re not going to put up with this for very long,” Adkins said. “At some point (for those property owners), it’s not going to be worth it to continue to allow this nuisance property to…blight our neighborhoods.”

    The proposed ordinance gives the city another tool to abate nuisance properties and address landlords who fail to take action against the tenants causing the problems. It will also strengthen the city’s ability to use sections of state law to address problem properties because the city must be able to show it has tried to work with the property owner.

    When there are problems at a residence, police will send a letter to the property owner that police, fire or EMS was dispatched to their property because of criminal activity, a disturbance, a code violation, an overdose or other medical emergency. The letter also lets them know if someone was arrested. The letter notes that if drug activity was found during that incident and the tenant was not evicted or the landlord failed or refused to take action, the landlord could also be charged with permitting drug abuse, a first-degree misdemeanor, or see that charge elevated to a fifth-degree felony if drug trafficking is found and verified.

    If a property is deemed to be a chronic nuisance property, or if there is felony drug activity found and the landlord does nothing to address the problem, some of the penalties include billing the landlord for the cost of sending police, fire or EMS responding to a call; civil penalties ranging from $150 to $1,000; being charged with a minor misdemeanor with a fine of $150 for violating the ordinance and separate offenses could be charged for each day the violation occurs or continues; and/or revoking occupancy, health or other permits granted to the property owner.

    The proposed ordinance has provisions to protect landlords who do attempt to correct the problems; or who were unaware of the nuisance, such as being out of town and tried to correct the problem upon return; or after doing a background check on a tenant and was in the process of eviction when an offense occurred. The draft ordinance also includes an appeal process.

    “It is my belief that those landlords and the homeowners in the neighborhood should not be subjected to ongoing nuisance issues by the few owners who choose not to be responsible with their properties,” Adkins recently said. “This is a quality of life and property value issue. No one wants to live next door to, or to purchase a house next to a continuing code enforcement violation or ongoing criminal activity.”

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This wouldn't have been a problem for the city officials if they had targeted a higher standing resident population rather than the Section 8, no or low income freebie handout segment of society who show no sign of caring nor taking responsibility for their actions. You don't see the Springboro's, the West Chester's or the Mason's of the area going after the people who cause these kinds of problems. They want more for their city as to class than those who run Middletown. Only here in Middletown do you see city leadership making decisions to open the city doors to attract people who cause these situations. If inviting more Section 8/low income/druggie/crime types to town was such a good idea, don't you think more would be doing it? Middletown and Adkin's crew asked for this to happen. Now, they got what they wanted and it's causing problems. Look in the mirror boys. There, you will see who is to blame.
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Correct, Vet--Admin was the major culprit in creating the mass influx of Section 8, and YES--section 8 tenants are more lax in maintaining landlord properties since they can simply move on to another property.

Still--this ordinance is a turning point to fixing the situation. Landlords who don't care will be made to either care or leave. Tenants who don't care will be pressured to do better or leave. At least we hope so.

Good move by Council that took far too long to happen.
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Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:

Correct, Vet--Admin was the major culprit in creating the mass influx of Section 8, and YES--section 8 tenants are more lax in maintaining landlord properties since they can simply move on to another property.

Still--this ordinance is a turning point to fixing the situation. Landlords who don't care will be made to either care or leave. Tenants who don't care will be pressured to do better or leave. At least we hope so.

Good move by Council that took far too long to happen.

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Please notice that HUD Section 8 housing and tenants are not mentioned once in this article and yet once again all of the current problems of Middletown have been placed at the doorstep of the landlords of Middletown.

We already have laws in place to solve these problems so why does Mr. Adkins need more power, laws and fines?
Maybe I should remind you that City Hall is still involved in several serious law suits for their past actions against HUD Section 8 landlords.
If City Hall has abused their power in recent years why in the world would you trust City Hall with even more power?

I think that maybe City Hall needs to clean up its own properties before it makes further demands on the public.



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The good 'ole boy club can do anything they wish and it is condoned by council (their puppets) and both the council and the city leaders are directed by the MMF (the true power in town).

I would imagine Adkins and the city building power structure don't feel a need to explain anything to the people of this city, but a certain small inner circle group knows exactly what they are doing at any given time. They have been in charge for so long, have received little to no resistance for so long, and have run the city as a dictatorship for so long, they are not threatened in the least and feel invincible. The school board is the same way. They haven't listened to most people's wishes for the district in decades, have relied on their supporters and have done what they want. That's why the schools are such a cluster. No one on their side wants to change the failing ways. Business as usual. Why should they care as long as their yes voter support block keeps out-voting the no voters and passing the levies, they could care less about why the rest of us are fed up with the schools.

The rules are made up in their favor and are to their advantage depending on the situation of the moment. That's also how Les Landen interprets the laws in this city. They change depending on the circumstances.

All of these things contribute to the abuse of the majority, the catering to the select few and the overall disgust felt by most in the city.

Even if the lawsuits drain this city of revenue, I don't think the city leaders are smart enough to realize the aftermath and if they did understand, I don't think they would care, they are that obtuse.

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Once again this little law is really all about City Hall needing more money in the nuisance coffers..
With every house City Hall removed in the 2rd Ward they lost about $1500 in property taxes.
The majority of these empty lots can not have homes rebuilt on the property because of city zoning codes.
So now City Hall has a big bunch of empty lots located all over town that they will need to mow all summer long.
OOOOPS....

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I heard that the Dougmeister wants to replicate the tall grass prairies of Kansas in the second ward? There's lots of room for critters to roam now!
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Posted: 7:00 a.m. Friday, April 17, 2015

Landlords seek clarifications on nuisance ordinance

By Ed Richter

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MIDDLETOWN 

    Owners of rental properties in Middletown have raised some concerns about a proposed ordinance to address chronic nuisance issues.

    The proposed ordinance, which is slated for final consideration Tuesday by Middletown City Council, is designed to keep track of those properties that generate higher than normal calls for city services by way of code enforcement violations and/or criminal activity or other incidents requiring a public safety unit to respond.

    “The problem we have had in the past is that we’ve never combined MPD, MFD and Community Revitalization code enforcement records to identify problem properties. This is an effort to do exactly that,” said City Manager Doug Adkins.      “It’s about reducing crime and other nuisance activity long term by better rental practices, resulting in fewer calls for city services. It is not a revenue generator or cost-savings measure. It’s a neighborhood quality of life improvement measure.”

    In addition, the proposed ordinance would also enable the city to take action against the owner to recover ongoing future city costs in responding to and abating those nuisances if the owner chooses not to take action to correct the situation.

    “This is not intended to be a “gotcha” ordinance, but a long-term solution to ongoing tenant issues,” Adkins said.

    While landlords have had an opportunity to review a draft of the proposed ordinance, several have contacted the city for additional clarifications on how the proposed ordinance would be enforced, along with a better understanding of how it will work and provisions to protect the property owner who is trying to abate the identified nuisance.

    When presented last month to the Middletown Real Estate Investors Group for input, it was not made clear that they were looking at the final draft. That proposal was submitted to City Council for a first reading at its April 7 meeting and was slated for a second reading and approval on Tuesday. The ordinance was developed by city officials and is a hybrid of other ordinances from other Ohio communities.

    Steve Bohannon, MREIG chairman, said there were still some questions concerning enforcement, but he sees this as “a very good win-win.”

    Bohannon said the new ordinance has teeth in it and for the good of the community, it’s something that has to be done.   He also wants to make sure that the elderly have access to organizations to help them fix things on their property that they might not be able to afford or do themselves.

    “This is a good start to reshape and rethink how we do things and to go forward to make things better for the future of Middletown,” Bohannon said. “The big winner in all of this is the city.”

    A meeting between several landlords and Public Safety Director David VanArsdale is being scheduled to further explain and clarify the proposed ordinance, Adkins said.

    As of early Thursday afternoon, Adkins said he had not made a decision about tabling the proposed ordinance.

    “The city has a good dialogue with the landlord group, and I want to hear their additional comments,” he said. “If there are changes that make sense to the ordinance that are brought forward by the landlord group, I’ll consider tabling it at the    April 21 meeting and bringing it back May 5 for a second reading with any amendments. The concerns raised so far were more about execution and their understanding of how the ordinance will work, not an objection to the concept.”

    “The idea is to make sure the owner knows that his property is becoming a problem before it escalates, and then to make sure that either the problem is resolved or that the city is reimbursed for future costs responding to problems at that property,” Adkins recently told City Council.

    The tracking of properties that are becoming chronic nuisance problems and blighting the city will help keep property owners accountable, he said.

    “It’s the simple idea that we’re not going to put up with this for very long,” Adkins said. “At some point (for those property owners), it’s not going to be worth it to continue to allow this nuisance property to blight our neighborhoods.”

    The proposed ordinance gives the city another tool to abate nuisance properties and address landlords who fail to take action against the tenants causing the problems. It will also strengthen the city’s ability to use sections of state law to address problem properties because the city must be able to show it has tried to work with the property owner.

    In addition to escalating penalties and assessments against those owners of chronic nuisance properties, the proposed ordinance also has “safe harbor” provisions to protect landlords who do attempt to correct the problems; or who were unaware of the nuisance, such as being out of town and tried to correct the problem upon return; or after doing a background check on a tenant and was in the process of eviction when an offense occurred. The proposed ordinance also includes an appeal process.

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“The problem we have had in the past is that we’ve never combined MPD, MFD and Community Revitalization code enforcement records to identify problem properties. This is an effort to do exactly that,” said City Manager Doug Adkins.      “It’s about reducing crime and other nuisance activity long term by better rental practices, resulting in fewer calls for city services. It is not a revenue generator or cost-savings measure. It’s a neighborhood quality of life improvement measure.”

You would have thought by now that the very nature of the "crime/nuisance/problem property situations", created by the ghetto building theme brought to town by the Gilleland Administration, of which Adkins was a part, would have prompted tracking and monitoring long ago. It is just now that the Adkins bunch sees the need to identify habitual negative situations?

"In addition, the proposed ordinance would also enable the city to take action against the owner to recover ongoing future city costs in responding to and abating those nuisances if the owner chooses not to take action to correct the situation."

    "“This is not intended to be a “gotcha” ordinance, but a long-term solution to ongoing tenant issues,” Adkins said""

Good luck with that Adkins.


“This is a good start to reshape and rethink how we do things and to go forward to make things better for the future of Middletown,” Bohannon said. “The big winner in all of this is the city.”

And just how do the majority of the people in town, who are not Section 8 property owners, win Mr. Bohannon? We watch the city deteriorate as we get closer to ghetto status each day, while a small contingent of Section 8 property owners are paid using our tax dollars to lower the class of the city by providing housing to people who have a habit of not caring about too much of anything except their handouts. Is this "winning"?



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Mr. Adkins declared ALL of Middletown “Slumville USA” by using the HUD 54% rule several years ago so he could use CDBG Funds all over Middletown and not just the low income areas. Remember he used some CDBG funds to pave some streets in the Highland Historic District.

“The problem we have had in the past is that we’ve never combined MPD, MFD and Community Revitalization code enforcement records to identify problem properties. This is an effort to do exactly that,” said City Manager Doug Adkins.      “It’s about reducing crime and other nuisance activity long term by better rental practices, resulting in fewer calls for city services. It is not a revenue generator or cost-savings measure. It’s a neighborhood quality of life improvement measure.”

Well this statement is not completely true…..Several years ago Mr. Adkins requested numerous changes to HUD Section 8 housing rules like those that are listed above….and these are the very rules that City Hall abused that will now be heard in the courts. It is because of this very abuse of power that the HUD Section 8 Program was moved to Butler County and Warren County.

With the above law City Hall will have the power to do “Selective Enforcement” against ANY AND ALL citizens in Middletown…not just Section 8 landlords which were held to a higher standard to begin with as I have stated many times on this blog.

We all want a better community to live and work in…however…giving Mr. Adkins and City Hall unlimited power is not the best answer IMO. We already have laws on the books to solve these problems.

Please remember that once you give City Hall this power it will NEVER be returned to the citizens again...just like the gas taxes to repair the streets 30 years ago.



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Please read this entire legislation because it applies to EVERY property in Middletown...not just rental property as they would like you to believe.
I have only added the first page below...
You are giving City Hall unlimited power


http://www.cityofmiddletown.org/docs/council/04072015_w.pdf

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LEGISLATION ITEM 7

EXHIBIT “A” CHAPTER 1456 (CHRONIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT)

SECTION 1. PURPOSE

(a) Chronic nuisance properties present health, safety, and welfare concerns to the City, and have a negative impact upon the quality of life, safety, and health of the neighborhoods in which they are located. This Chapter is enacted to remedy nuisance activities that occur throughout the City and affect citizens by providing a process for abatement.
(b) Chronic nuisance properties are a financial burden to the City due to the calls for service for nuisance activities that occur repeatedly on these properties. This Chapter is a means to lessen that burden and hold accountable those persons responsible for such properties.

SECTION 2. DEFINITIONS

(a) Chronic Nuisance Property. (1) Property on which three or more nuisance activities and/or two felony drug activities have occurred during any 6 month period; or (2) Property on which or within 300 feet of which any person associated with the property has engaged in three or more nuisance activities within any 6 month period.
(b) Nuisance Activities. Any of the following activities, behaviors, or criminal conduct:
(1) Any Falsification violation under Section 606.10, Obstruction of Official Business violation under Section 606.14, Obstructing Justice violation under Section 606.15, Resisting Arrest violation under Section 606.16, Compliance with Lawful Order of Police Officer; Fleeing violation under Section 606.165, Misuse of 9-1-1 System violation under Section 606.29, Failure to Disclose Personal Information violation under Section 606.30 of the Codified Ordinances;
(2) Any alcohol violations under Chapter 612 of the Codified Ordinances;
(3) Any animal violations under Chapter 618 of the Codified Ordinances;
(4) Any drug violation under Chapter 624 of the Codified Ordinances;
(5) Any gambling violation under Chapter 630 of the Codified Ordinances;
(6) Any offense against another person under Ch
(7) Any violation under Section 636.20, Illegal Distribution of Cigarettes or Other Tobacco Products;
(8) Any offense against property under Chapter 642 of the Codified Ordinances;
(9) Any disorderly conduct, disturbance of the peace, or other violation under Chapter 648 of the Codified Ordinances;
(10) Any health, safety, or sanitation violation under Chapter 660 of the Codified Ordinances;
(11) Any sex offense under Chapter 666 of the Codified Ordinances;
(12) Any weapons, explosives, firearm, or handgun violation under Chapter 672 of the Codified Ordinances;
(13) Any property maintenance violation, including but not limited to Sections 1436, Property Maintenance, Chapter 678, Weeds, Chapter 1030 Trees, Shrubs, and Plants of the Codified Ordinances; or
(14) Any activity or violation indicated to be a public nuisance anywhere in the Codified Ordinances.
(15) Any activity or violation listed above under the corresponding sections of the Ohio Revised Code. 

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Property maintenance,weeds,trees,shrubs these are all going to be included in this new legislation. I thought we already have ordinances to cover this.. Well it looks like city hall is going to be real busy cleaning up their own violations on weeds, grass and shrubs. What's that about stones and glass houses? JMO
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Yep..as we have stated on this blog many times before....City Hall needs to clean up its own house before they make demands on the citizens.

...and they still have not finished cleaning up the dump site between the East side fence line of the Middletown Cemetery and University Blvd, that I reported 10 years ago. 
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Making an issue out of a non issue. The ordinance is for chronic properties that have tenants that steal, do drugs, are loud, and corrupt. Landlords aren't doing proper background checks, or even doing background checks, so these people move into a property, and its non stop problems. Talked recently to a landlord, retired ATT sr executive from Maryland area, that had a tenant with a child, move in. Within a month, this woman, a parent, went into a big box store, and stole a 65 inch tv. It wasn't an hour that the police found her from security cameras, and spoke with her. They found out she was one of their drug informants, and did nothing but squeeze her for the bigger fish. These people are nuisances, but the decline of Middletown CREATED the problem. There is nothing a landlord will be able to control, other than a shuffle of property. Nuisance party kicked out of one property moves to a new property, and continues to be a nuisance. 

Your bigger problem is how the cty and city are sticking it to the average property owner on taxes, for those ignorant enough to own property in Middletown.  The average difference paid between Joe the Plumber on Central, and those on the best streets in Middletown is about 100,000 in true market value. Take that number and multiply by .35, the calculation for tax, and Joe the Plumber is paying about 1,000. annually less, than the orthopedic surgeon living by the golf course. They capped the high earners on the backs of the middle to lower income earners.

You got that fat library levy hitting you next in May. You folks don't get you pay 45% more for tax in Butler Cty than those in Warren. No need to worry about a nuisance law that won't effect you unless you party nightly, and troll for smiles on any section 8 holder regardless of background, just to get a monthly check. These nuisances are real. But, they are caused by a dying city attracting poor demographics. 

Just think what the future holds. In 2-3 years, the school district will be in the hole, after the majority of what, 20 votes, passed a massive building levy when student numbers are shrinking, and performance is going nowhere.

The definition of nuisance has many connotations in Middletown, and not just party animals and drug dealers. It includes mindless individuals watching Rome burn, while paying a premium for a ticket, to watch themselves be beaten in the ring by a gladiator, and thinking its worth every buck for the benefit. That is the bigger nuisance. But, everyone peeks when approaching a car wreck, or a shipwreck in progress. Even if its their fate they are watching.

Beam me up Scotty.   

      

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"fat library levy"??? It's a renewal you moron. But go ahead and vote NO and when they have to reduce hours  they can send all the homeless, indigent folk to YOUR house to kill time-how 'bout that????
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Yes Dean
Rome is burning and City Hall called in a decorator to fix the problem...Wink
But your sun glasses today beause that brighter future is just around the corner........
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I stopped going to the library...
Isn't it true that the library is now having a major problem with bedbugs?
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FrmMide81, only a MORON would justify a levy increase, renewal, or ANY expense predicated upon it being a place to house the homeless. Its for Monroe moron.
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Many of us were on board with the making of city ordinances more friendly.

However, the focus has changed away from city friendly, to codified ordinances which are vague and ambivalent.

Correct it and get the right focus. Highlighting the decline of city resources through this ordinance brings unwanted negative visibility.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Vivian Moon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 18 2015 at 3:00am

Factguy

Many people in this city have stepped up and gave freely of their time and talents over the years to try to make Middletown a better community and two years later when you talk with them they are walking away saying I will never get involved with a city project again. 

We have all read wonderful stories in the newspaper about a future project and we get all excited about it…and a year later the entire project turns out to be something entirely different that’s not wonderful at all but just another total waste of taxpayers money.

Several years ago while all the cities around us were cutting cost and personnel Middletown did nothing and later decided to use 10% of our emergency funds to get them “over the hump” and it was right back to business as usual.

Over the past 30 years City Hall has raped and raided every fund and now they want more…I will not give them another dime and I will vote NO on any and all levies. It is time for City Hall to learn to be frugal and live within their budget.

Factguy, this is no longer a friendly city that cares for its citizens….this has become a power hungry City Hall operating under Home Rule with Vague Laws so they can do as they damn well please…and the above legislation is a perfect example of this fact. 

What Middletown needs now is TOTAL CHANGE ON CITY COUNCIL AND CITY HALL from top to bottom.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Nagy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 18 2015 at 3:52am
Vivian,
      Then why not start a petition to have term limits for council. That would solve a lot of problems for all taxpaying citizens. Some of our younger taxpaying citizens need to step up to the plate and make certain they get enough signatures on the petition so that city council, city manager and the law director can't manipulate it and keep it from getting on the ballot.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike_Presta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 18 2015 at 4:35am
Read this new ordinance closely, including all of the referenced ordinances, and you will find that City Hall can declare virtually ANY property in Middletown a "nuisance" under this ordinance.

They might tell you that "that is not what it means", but THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS!!!

You will be able to beat them in court, but that will cost you!!!
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote spiderjohn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 18 2015 at 9:26am
I want to help, fact guy
I want to be a part of turning this city around, and I think that I have enough local experience and public confidence to do so.

That being said, I agree with most of what Ms.Moon just posted.

We need to stop being divided by location and thinking. There is room for everyone and something for everywhere.
But most of us can't penetrate the inner circle of power and enablers.
Are we really that un-important?
Can they really do it without us?
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