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    Posted: Oct 04 2019 at 10:07pm
Interesting article by the Urinal here:


I know he's an arrogant sucker and that's first-had knowledge - but the best part is the line that he admits he was disparaging his staff loudly in front of an entire coffee shop full of people.  Narcissist much?  Sorry - I know that last sentence is grammatically incorrect, but don't know a better way to say it.... 
"Success usually comes to those who are too busy to be looking for it."—Henry David Thoreau
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I am disappointed with the way chief M checked out with a slap at admin. He is a strong leader and role model citizen—that was no way to exit imo.
I also appreciate Doug and a lot of what he has done and tried to do—we have our differences and have for years, however he has stayed with us when he could have done better. He even moved his family here( unlike many in the building) and it has cost him big time personally and professionally.

imo Council is a bunch of do nothing but act important crybabies, particularly those in the downtown areas. The crux behind a lot of this meeting was a few unfortunate comments made about a couple of downtown entities during the rant. Truth is hard to swallow when so vain—without Doug, the downtown prima donnas would be in far worse shape.

The last thing that we need on council is more downtown faces imo, because none of them think or care about the rest of the city beyond their envisioned Camelot.

End of rant—please fire me also
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Oops— boot over yet!
IMO these entities upset by Mr.A’s unfortunate and poorly located rant are victims of their self-important view of their businesses, opinions and themselves. Granted, this has all been fueled by years of over-emphasis and coverage from media, particularly the local newspaper. Can we count the endless promoting pieces on Pendleton, beau verre, canal house, Gracies, indigo pass and triple moon?

Is it because they are incredibly successful? Hardly—without long-running support from the same Admin that they now want to admonish, many of them would be long gone. Now they want to dominate council and the rest of the city.

If this had occurred in any other part of town or business, do you honestly think there would be this kind of scrutiny and attention?

Keep this in mind as this plays out and on council Election Day.
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Surprise here.....Gonna defend the city manager here. Sorry to hear that the Triple Moon Coffee shop owner was "offended" to hear some off center talk. It happens sometimes with the best of people. It is reality that this happens. No shock should be noted. No harsh judgement should be made. People get angry. ALL people get angry and when you are blindsided due to a lack of information, and you are the person responsible for fixing the problem and were not given a chance to do so, it would infuriate anyone. Adkins was within his rights to be upset. Perhaps not in public and not around the customers but upset nonetheless. He stated he was upset with his staff for not informing him, not the business owners.

IMO, the Triple Moon owner needs to know that the world isn't all roses and candies all the time and needs to lighten up on the "he hurt my ears with his rhetoric" bullcrap. Get a life business owner. Public talk isn't all "wonderful" and soft on the ears. Wanna hear worse. Work in a factory sometime pumpkin and get ready for some radical ear candy.

Seems to me that Vitori and company are getting a little too big for the britches lecturing city council and city leaders about how it is going to be in their dam downtown area. Put them in their place on this one council and city managers. Especially knowing the city manager wasn't told about the homeless issues until now. Give the man a chance to correct it before you blow a gasket. Too early to show your angry ego downtown business owners. Especially given what the city and the taxpayers have done for you down in your little world. If you choose to give the city who has helped you survive some crap, perhaps the help needs to be pulled and the taxpayer money should be used for purposes that would benefit ALL, rather than a few spoiled, egotistical, holier than thou downtown business owners. Son and I were going to give Vitori's place a try next time we were downtown. Nope. We're done with that idea. Spider is correct. The downtown has been over promoted by the Journal and the city leaders. Couple that with way too much money wasted down there that could have been used for far more resident's benefit.   
I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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So, now, in the Journal, we have a story where council met in executive session to suspend the city manager for one day and to ask for him to apologize at the next council meeting on October 15th. Adkins was attending a conference in Columbus. It seems as if things happen to Adkins lately when he isn't around to know about it.

It appears we have a council member and her cronies who think they are in control of what happens in the downtown area and can direct the decision making capabilities of council. It also appears they are getting too big for the britches with the attitude IMO. Downtown owners don't run the business of the city. The city manager and his organization does. With council taking the business owner's side, it appears council is going "wok" like so many in this country nowadays. The downtown owner is playing the victim here to insist it be their way.

Just listen to the ridiculous stories we hear from different cities primarily controlled by out of control, wok Democrats. The "squad" is a perfect example. All bark-no bite. There are so many people listening to and believing the nonsense spewed by the people who fabricate fairy tale ideas that don't have a prayer's chance in hell of working and to direct people's mindsets to their advantage. It is my hope that this is not the beginning of this city adopting the wok craziness of some of the lunatic morons who run some California cities. Totally out of touch with reality. Council is actually making a city manager apologize to a downtown business owner "victim" because her "feelings were hurt" and she didn't want to be talked to in an "angry" manner? Suck it up lady. Life is, at times, not the way YOU want it. We all have had things said to us that have offended us. Get mad, then forget it and move on without making a big deal out of it. You do not deserve a public apology for this. It wasn't directed at you. You were just in the line of fire when Adkins vented his frustration at not being informed but still incurring the responsibility for the issue. It was not meant to be a personal attack on you. This is another case of the "victim" conveniently calling up her emotions to selectively adjust the outcome to her advantage. It is done everyday to gain favorable outcomes.

Council.....do your own thinking without some downtown business owner influencing you using her emotions. The downtown area has WAY too much influence in this city as it is. If only they could offer as much value to this town as they do attention garnered.
I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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Vet,

I hate to disagree with you, but I think the situation with Adkins runs far deeper than just this incident.

Normally, I'd jump on the same bandwagon - but if you've ever dealt with that man personally you've likely run into the Adverse Adkins a time or two.

You see Adverse Adkins:

Doesn't care what anyone thinks about anything - it's his way or the highway.
Doesn't care what council thinks about anything - in fact he's told me so in front of a council member
Doesn't care what is actually GOOD for the city - He's only down with what advances his career and visibility
Doesn't care what the citizens of our city think - He's made it clear that council can fire him anytime they want
Doesn't care if council fires him - His stint thus far and the accolades he's made up about his time as manager he thinks will make him the hired candidate in any city or state in the nation.

He used Middletown.  He's been using it for years - it's time, I believe, that he goes and moves on to greener pastures.  This pasture is well worn, tired and brown from abuse.  It's time for council to put and end to his tyrannical reign.

Once upon a time I got fired from a job...simply because of a backside comment that didn't hurt anyone.  As an integral part of that organization whose shoes were impossible to fill - my boss looked at me and said, "Sorry Bob, sometimes someones usefulness is overshadowed by their mouths."  Taught me a very valuable lesson - a lesson that Mr. Adkins definitely needs to learn.
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He is a full time city manager working for a part time council.
He works at their pleasure
Every issue that comes to a vote is usually a 5-0 vote
He runs the city, was groomed for the position and has held the position for ?? Years
The town is fiscally better off partially because of him
The downtowners owe him big time—he has favored and protected them.
He bought in to middletownat a huge personal expense
Not a slap at downtown business people—they also have worked hard at their businesses
Simply a family spat between everyone—all somewhat used to getting their way

The whole melodrama is honestly a nothing burger imo

Positive result being the homeless issue might be addressed—though it is larger than Middietown
What will we do with them?
Moving them to a nice new 12 mill complex a mile away will probably attract more of them
Where will they go in the day hours?

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Now we find out that council is on the way to terminating Adkins. Seems to me that two downtown business owners are not only a part of council now, but may attempt to influence the decision making abilities of others on council who are not a part of the downtown circle. With Monica Nenni elected, we now have two downtown business owners on council and would have had three downtown supporters if Joe Wittman were elected. Might be seeing the early signs of a trend here where the goal of the downtown supporters is to place their own in key positions in the city to ultimately control the direction of the city and to ensure complete focus on their dam downtown. If the MMF influence wasn't bad enough, we may have another problem with the downtown special interest agendas. This is a potentially dangerous situation IMO for the rest of us who don't have the fervor of downtown tunnel vision development. All resources could be on the downtown. The outlying areas of this city have the dubious possibility of being forgotten about completely. If this speculation is deemed serious for the majority living here, I would think now is the time to watch closely who is attempting to join council and be placed in key positions as to directing focus on our future. Pay close attention to the hiring of a new city manager and what credentials the council places on their qualifications. If council criteria seems to favor the downtown effort, we have a problem cooking on council. Could it be that the downtown owners are using council positions to further their agenda? (Conflict of interest perhaps?) With Vitori and Nenni now on board, and with downtown supporter Wittman's attempt at council, it would certainly point to a trend wouldn't it? JMO
I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dead man walkin' Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 08 2019 at 3:26am
Agreed.  Levi Cramer would've been a much better choice for Middletown!
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