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Topic: Greenville Trip
Posted By: VietVet
Subject: Greenville Trip
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 7:06am
Journal story....

Goal of trip: Repeat Greenville’s success

GREENVILLE, S.C —
City officials and business leaders are hoping to bring a little southern magic back to Middletown.

They’re in Greenville, S.C., today and Wednesday meeting with city representatives to learn how they revitalized their downtown, a similar goal of Middletown leaders. The tour is being organized by Middletown Moving Forward, which said it wants to explore these topics during the tour:

• Coordination of economic development activities among various organizations for multiple commercial and industrial areas of the community;

• Downtown revitalization;

• Securing resources and investments for redevelopment;

• Business attraction, retention, and expansion

Greenville, with almost 61,000 residents, is located in the northwestern corner of South Carolina. The area is centrally situated between Charlotte, and Atlanta and is one of the fastest growing areas of the country and the fastest in that state, said Calista H. Smith, interim director of Middletown Moving Forward.

She said with more than 250 international firms, the greater Greenville area, also known as Upstate South Carolina, boasts the highest international investment per capita in the nation. The Central Business District covers approximately 300 acres within the larger downtown area of 1,118 acres. Office space downtown totals over 3 million square feet, accounting for over 1/3 of the total office space in the Greenville/Spartanburg area. Downtown Greenville’s daytime population is filled with 116,465 employees within five miles.

Greenville has become a restaurant destination for the region with 99 restaurants in the downtown area — roughly 20 percent of this total opened between 2010-2011. There are more than 1,700 condominium/apartment units in downtown.

In the last 12 years, Greenville’s population has risen by 3,200 people; the median income has gone from $33,000 to $41,000; and in the last four years, 471 buildings have been built with an average cost of $233,000.

During that same time, Middletown’s population has dropped nearly 3,000; its median income has fallen more than $600; and 67 buildings have been constructed with an average cost of $109,000.

Who’s on the trip

Some on those on the tour include: Larry Mulligan Jr., Middletown mayor; Dora Bronston and Anita Scott Jones, City Council members; Terry Sherrer, director of Middletown Area United Way; Rick Pearce, president of the Chamber of Commerce serving Middletown, Monroe and Trenton; Denise Hamet, economic development director; Michael Chikeleze, director of Cincinnati State Middletown; and Ken Cohen, president of Cohen Brothers.

Who they’re meeting

This morning the group will hear a “Greenville Before and After” presentation, then tour several local businesses, apartment developments near downtown, and meet with city officials. On Wednesday, the group will participate in a community leaders panel that will include the executive director of Greenville Forward; chair of the Greenville Area Development Corporation; vice president of economic development; and vice president for Strategy and Investment for the United Way of Greenville County

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PADUCAH KY TRIP? I THOUGHT THAT TRIP WAS TO GET IDEAS FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. OTHER THAN THE PAC, WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT TRIP?

AND WHY DOES THE TRIP HAVE TO BE JUST ABOUT IDEAS FOR THEIR DOWNTOWN. LIFE EXISTS OUTSIDE THE DOWNTOWN AREA DOESN'T IT? IS GREENVILLE A LOW INCOME CITY CHOCKED FULL OF SECTION? IF NOT, WHAT ARE THE SIMILARITIES? THE TWO CITIES MAY HAVE TOTALLY DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS AND ENVIRONMENTS TO CREATE SUCCESS.

AHH YES, KEN COHEN. PRESIDENT OF THE MMF'ERS. UNITED WAY REP? CINCI STATE REP? WHY?

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.



Replies:
Posted By: skookumj
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 7:43am
who else is on the trip> any ideas?


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 8:27am
Well I have been to this area and I can tell you for a fact....
IT HAS VERY LITTLE IN COMMON WITH MIDDLETOWN


Posted By: Neil Barille
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 9:38am
What good is this trip? These people don't have the background to even know what to look for in Greenville.  And what can be accomplished in person that you can't accomplish via a google search or paying a consultant?


Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 10:25am
The biggest difference----the game-changer?

Greenville, no unions. Midsdletown, all unions. Analogous to going to China to find out why companies build there, to see people working for yen at 1/1000 of the cost in USA.

Greenville also has major intersection points (highway).

Also, when Charlotte collapsed, as a major financial market, businesses in NC, and SC relocated.

Having visited that area many times when my son was at Davidson in Rock Hills, Middletown is not, and will not, be Greenville. For many reasons.

Fun boondoggle for spring-break. I'd do Disneyworld.


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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 10:32am
If this group thinks they are going to "mirror" Greenville they are going to need a mirror the size of the Hubble telescope. Just from the description in today's paper they cannot compete. Greenville is the fastest growing city in the state. They have 250 international firms. They have the highest international investment per capita in the nation. So again they are not looking at growth brought about by business they just want to look at their "downtown" They are wasting a trip and missing the entire point of Greenville's growth.


Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 10:46am
I wish there was still the EDIT feature without a re-post, but, as there isn't, here's my observation after a post.

Middletown has never addressed nor captured, the reasons why the Middletown Hospital left; why Bishop Fenwick High School left; why CSH left; why Courtney Duff is shutting down, why Square D left, and so forth.

All said they needed to go where there was growth or image to attract younger professionals.

No one said because Middletown needed to revive downtown.

It would be helpful to digest council, why companies left Middletown, and then tweak your capabilities to bring new businesses into the city, with new residents.

But.....more importantly, the trip shows the Avis touch. You are trying.

There is a rumor they are heading down to Boeing to have it re-located to Middletown with Cincinnati State's aviation maintenance graduates.

Mr. Mulligan stated change was inevitable in his state of the union address regarding Middletown. Yet...they cannot comprehend what has changed Middletown and want to rebuild the past.

The needle is stuck on the phonograph. 


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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 11:21am
acclaro:

"I wish there was still the EDIT feature without a re-post, but, as there isn't, here's my observation after a post."

You can edit your post by clicking the post options button and selecting edit. BUT.......be fast with you changes or a nice little yellow screen will appear eliminating your entire post and you get to start all over again typing from ground zero.

Just what I have experienced with post edits.





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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 12:05pm
acclaro:

"Mr. Mulligan stated change was inevitable in his state of the union address regarding Middletown. Yet...they cannot comprehend what has changed Middletown and want to rebuild the past"

I AGREE WITH HISSONER MULLIGAN CONCERNING CHANGE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE CHANGE IS CURRENTLY BEING FORCEFIT BY HIS LITTLE GROUP OF MMF'ERS AND IT IS LIKE A PUZZLE WHERE NONE OF THE PIECES ARE CUT TO FIT. HIS "CHANGE" HE TALKS ABOUT IS LIKE TRYING TO BRING CULTURE TO AN APPALACHIA AREA.

NOTE TO LARRY....CULTURE AND BLUE COLLAR MIX AS WELL AS WATER AND OIL. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE LITTLE ANALOGY?

CASE IN POINT....THIS IS A BLUE COLLAR STEEL TOWN. ALWAYS HAS BEEN...ALWAYS WILL BE NO MATTER HOW HARD MULLIGAN AND THE DREAM MACHINE TRY TO INCORPORATE THE ARTZY CULTURE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO PURGE THE TOWN'S PERSONALITY TO CHANGE IT. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY DON'T WANT, DON'T UNDERSTAND AND DON'T IDENTIFY WITH ART. MULLIGAN, COHEN AND COMPANY ARE SMART ENOUGH (I THINK), TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PEOPLE WE HAVE HERE. THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND AS LONG AS I HAVE AND KNOW FULL WELL THAT THEIR TOWN THEME OF CULTURAL WON'T FLY HERE.

I FIND IT DAM IRONIC THAT THE CITY PUT OUT THE WELCOME MAT FOR ALL THE LOW INCOME PEOPLE IT COULD ATTRACT IN THE FORM OF SECTION 8- HUD, AND, AT THE SAME TIME, ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE AN AIRE OF CULTURE AND EDUCATION IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THE TWO ARENAS ARE POLAR OPPOSITES. MIDDLETOWN IS PECULIAR AS TO CONTRAST. IN THE INNER CORE DOWNTOWN AREA, THEY WANT ONLY CULTURAL ACTIVITY. REVOLVING AROUND THE INNER CORE, THERE ARE POCKETS OF DIFFERENT LEVELS OF POVERTY FROM ULTRA-LOW INCOME HANDOUTS THRU THE WORKING POOR, TO THE STRESSED MIDDLE CLASS JUST TRYING THE GET BY TO THE LOWER UPPER CLASS WITH SOME DISPOSABLE INCOME TO THE PROFESSIONALS AT THE UPPER TIER.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE LEVELS FROM MIDDLE CLASS ON DOWN TO THE ULTRA-LOW INCOME COMPRISE MOST OF THE CITY NOW. DIDN'T USE TO BE THAT WAY WHEN THIS CITY HAD SOME CLASS AND WAS RUN COMPETENTLY.

acclaro:

"But.....more importantly, the trip shows the Avis touch. You are trying"

TRYING HUH. WHO'S TRYING TO FOOL WHOM HERE. IT'S A BOONDOGGLE AND A COUPLE OF DAYS "OUT OF THE OFFICE" FOR MOST. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES AS TO THE CLIMATE OF EACH TOWN. THEY HAVE OVER-ESTIMATED MIDDLETOWN'S POTENTIAL AND HAVE UNDERESTIMATED GREENVILLE, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT IS MUCH HEALTHIER THAN MIDDLETOWN. FROM THE DESCRIPTION IN THE STORY, IT SOUNDS LIKE GREENVILLE HAS DEVELOPMENTAL POTENTIAL AND HAS HAD SOME REAL MEASUREABLE SUCCESS WITH A DEGREE OF COMPETENT PEOPLE RUNNING THE SHOW AND MIDDLETOWN IS STILL SPRAYING INTO THE WIND. INCREDIBLE LACK OF REALIZATION FROM THE CITY TRAVELERS.

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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 12:18pm
VV you have been here long enough to know Marty Kohler brought the SEC 8 vouchers here for the FED money. The fact that vouchers bring low income didn't occur to him. That's the mentality of those running the program. They wanted to send the program to Butler Co. Several years ago,remember, but now they have seen the money and they want the money but not the vouchers. Well I guess it doesn't work that way with HUD.


Posted By: blue7
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 6:02pm
Maybe Mr.McCrabb can ask them (Greenville) about Richard Florida's recent article about how places that boomed from "Meds and Eds" will not be sustainable. Kind of like our steel town.

If you google Richard Florida, you will read a bunch of opinion pieces. He was the "it" guy in Urban Development Theory in the early 2000's. We aren't the only city feeling the pain from Florida's ideas about the creative class (young hipster technology/artists). If you build it, they will come, and by build, he meant cram them downtown. I would link the articles but I'm mobile right now. Mr. Robinette brought Florida to Dayton in the early to mid 00's. Then, Wright State, I believe, brought him back, which started the DaytonCreate movement. There's even an article quoting Steve Coon saying that he follows Florida's ideas about Urban Development. I guess we couldn't afford Florida's steep costs, or we already Robinette who knew all about Florida. The problem though, was that Florida's theories weren't panning out for cities the way the should have. He even admitted to it, around 09, I think? He shifted his focus, kind of. We joined the National Mainstreet program, which had Florida as their keynote speaker. Bike paths are even part of his plans.

Sorry about my choppy writing. I was planning on writing a big post about this. But since they are down there, I wanted to touch on it. If you look all this stuff up, you'll find all of the information. I just think we need to stop putting our tax money in to this. It's time to let these businesses try on their own and focus on the highway area. Or other areas of town. Maybe that's why they distanced themselves from certain groups? Maybe none of this really matters, or I'm completely wrong. 




Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 6:26pm

VET - "THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES AS TO THE CLIMATE OF EACH TOWN."

Vet 
This is one time I must disagree with you....this is like comparing a grape to a wat
ermelon.
It ain't even close. 

 



Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 7:36pm
b7, most scholars mocked Florida's theories associated with gays and liberal artsy folks years ago, by showing highly educated technologists increased urban renewal, not the merge of lifestyle. Please tell me this is not why the city has wasted $ MM on downtown, associated with such nonsense espoused by Florida.

I liken the Greenville trip to going to a major league game 3-4 times weekly, with the hope and intent one would become a professional big show player.....through osmosis. See it, replicate it, and they will come.

Please tell me they aren't being led by Robinette and the Florida Kool-aid. The final nail is landing soon on the Middletown coffin.    

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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill


Posted By: blue7
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 8:04pm
Acclaro, haven't they already? It seems like it to me. I was a huge fan of the downtown revitalization until recently. I hope I'm wrong and we bring in a bunch of new people, sadly the data doesn't add up.

There's an article online about West Chester building luxury apartments. Also about the new city manager candidates. Mr. Atkins and Mr Landen. What do you think about Lococo (sp?).


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 8:55pm
They better have those names listed in tomorrow's Middletown Jounal or I will cancel my subscription. They have to know in Middletown that Doug Adkins and Les Landen have proven their inability to be taken seriously by all the lies and half truths just in this Bank One deal lately. They had no intentions of following the state or local laws on this deal. Anyone in their right mind would not take their application seriously.


Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 9:37pm
This is a very weak group. Ideally, you'd want one from Ohio, associated with the labor and pension issues.

Hudson, Ohio, where one candidate was city manager, is currently filling a position for city manager.

Steubenville former manager is only one that has a demographic equivalent, but a city of under 20,000; Cathy Davison, former Steubenville city manager

Les moves to city manager and Doug rewarded with law director position. Well, now the reason for its okay to put signs out early in a levy and ram 7 to 5 city council positions. They owe him one.

Abandon ship, its on taking water very fast.

I was thinking what excellent leaders there were in Middletown over the years, simply massive business titans.

Then, Armco pulled plug, and moved to New Jersey.

Perry Thatcher and Bill Akers tried to fill the void.

Then, it was gone, the massive, intelligent, leadership vacuum. Replaced with....MMF and a council set up for passing levies, not business development.

Its over. No Walking Tall in this land built on a marsh.

Just look at a city manager that comes from a historic district. That is the narrow field.

But, Les moves up, Doug moves over, and the nightmare from 2000 forward, continues.

Best Advice ever receIved; Know when to cut your losses. Its time. 

   

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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 10:03pm
That would be a great combination with Les and Doug in those positions. The excutive session would be a revolving door of back room deals that only a chosen few would be privy to. Last person out, turn out the lights. Light the fuse and bring it all down.


Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 22 2014 at 10:35pm
Greenville or Detroit?

Vegas says Detroit, 20 pt spread.




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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill


Posted By: Richard Saunders
Date Posted: Apr 24 2014 at 2:31am
The group may plant some trees and flowers.

It's important to show that they have a plan, whether they do or not.


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 24 2014 at 6:08am

Posted: 12:00 a.m. Thursday, April 24, 2014

Greenville attendees hope to start working soon

By  http://www.journal-news.com/staff/rick-mccrabb/" rel="nofollow - Staff Writer

GREENVILLE, S.C. — 

Now that the group of Middletown leaders and officials have returned home after touring Greenville, S.C. for the last three days, it’s time to get to work, they said.

The group met with Greenville representatives and took walking tours of the city’s revitalized downtown that has experienced tremendous growth over the last 30 years. Boarded up buildings have been replaced by vibrant businesses, making Greenville the postcard for cities seeking similar success.

Calista Smith, interim director of Middletown Moving Forward — the group that organized the trip for about 25 people, said she hopes it can show progress within the next 60 days, though renovating downtown is expected to take years, if not decades.

A group from Middletown toured Paducah, Ky., six years ago, and met about once a month for more than one year, said T. Duane Gordon, executive director of the Middletown Community Foundation. From that tour and follow-up meetings, the Pendleton Art Center was created, which has spurred additional downtown business.

Now the group hopes to do the same with what it learned in Greenville.

They plan to solicit ideas from students at the city’s two community colleges, Miami University Middletown and Cincinnati State Middletown, with a partial scholarship possibly being one prize for the best suggestion. They feel it’s important to listen to opinions of younger people.

Members of the group, after being encouraged by Terry Sherrer, executive director of the Middletown Area United Way, volunteered to spruce up the former site of Swallen’s, where the city has hosted farmer’s markets, on June 21. The group may plant some trees and flowers. Sherrer said it’s important for the group to show Middletown that it has an action plan.

“We have to take a step,” Sherrer said. “Lay the first brick.”

Later he added: “We have the right people to get it done.”

Several others in the group agreed.

Rick Pearce, president of the Chamber of Commerce serving Middletown, Monroe and Trenton, said renovating the downtown is “a challenge” and “there is no magic answer. We just need to get to work.”

Community volunteer Mike Scorti said since the Paducah trip, the city has done an “enormous job” bringing in retail business.

“We are on the right track,” he said.

Selecting manager ‘critical decision’

Ken Cohen, president of Cohen Brothers, said the city is facing a “critical decision” as it selects its next city manager. City Manager Judy Gilleland is retiring in early June and the city recently released the names of the 29 applicants.

On Wednesday, while visiting Greenville, S.C., Cohen said Middletown doesn’t need another administrator, rather an innovator, someone who can “take the city forward.”

He also stressed that if none of the applicants fit the qualities the city is seeking, more resumes should be accepted.

“Do not hire the wrong person,” he said. “Don’t settle.”



Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 24 2014 at 6:35am
Well alright......the "aftermath" of the Greenville trip from your Journal...

Greenville attendees hope to start working soon

GREENVILLE, S.C. —
Now that the group of Middletown leaders and officials have returned home after touring Greenville, S.C. for the last three days, it’s time to get to work, they said.

I THOUGHT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING. SURE HAVE BEEN SPENDING OUR MONEY DOWN THERE FOR SOMETHING, RIGHT?

The group met with Greenville representatives and took walking tours of the city’s revitalized downtown that has experienced tremendous growth over the last 30 years. Boarded up buildings have been replaced by vibrant businesses, making Greenville the postcard for cities seeking similar success.

Calista Smith, interim director of Middletown Moving Forward — the group that organized the trip for about 25 people, said she hopes it can show progress within the next 60 days, though renovating downtown is expected to take years, if not decades.

PROGRESS IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS? AND IT MAY TAKE YEARS IF NOT DECADES? IN OTHER WORDS, SHE DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE HOW LONG THIS PIPE DREAM WILL TAKE (AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT WILL WASTE).

A group from Middletown toured Paducah, Ky., six years ago, and met about once a month for more than one year, said T. Duane Gordon, executive director of the Middletown Community Foundation. From that tour and follow-up meetings, the Pendleton Art Center was created, which has spurred additional downtown business.

SO THE OUTCOME FROM THE PADUCAH BOONDOGGLE WAS ONE BUILDING WITH UNSTEADY TENENT NUMBERS WITH A FEW RESIDUALS THAT HAVE GONE IN AND OUT OF BUSINESS SINCE THEN?

Now the group hopes to do the same with what it learned in Greenville.

AGAIN, ONE BUILDING THAT HAS COME AND GO TENENTS AND A FEW RESIDUALS THAT GO IN AND OUT OF BUSINESS?

They plan to solicit ideas from students at the city’s two community colleges, Miami University Middletown and Cincinnati State Middletown, with a partial scholarship possibly being one prize for the best suggestion. They feel it’s important to listen to opinions of younger people.

IDEAS FROM JUST STUDENTS AND YOUNG PEOPLE? IT'S "IMPORTANT" TO LISTEN TO YOUNG PEOPLE? YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE ATTENDING COLLEGE HERE WILL MOVE AWAY AS SOON AS THEY HAVE THEIR DEGREE. THEY DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DOWNTOWN AFTER THEY HAVE GOTTEN WHAT THEY WANT FROM IT. THEY HAVE MADE IT A "GAMESHOW" WITH A PRIZE FOR THE BEST SUGGESTION? HOW CHILDISH. NO,YOU WOULD BE WISE TO SOLICIT IDEAS FROM THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BOTH YOUNG AND OLDER. BUT, OF COURSE, BY DOING THAT, THEY MAY HEAR IDEAS THAT DON'T FIT THEIR ALREADY PLANNED IDEAS. THIS IS JUST A DOG AND PONY SHOW TO APPEASE THE MASSES. THEY WILL DO AS THEY ARE DIRECTED BY COHEN AND HIS MMF'ERS. ALWAYS HAVE.

Members of the group, after being encouraged by Terry Sherrer, executive director of the Middletown Area United Way, volunteered to spruce up the former site of Swallen’s, where the city has hosted farmer’s markets, on June 21. The group may plant some trees and flowers. Sherrer said it’s important for the group to show Middletown that it has an action plan.

PLANTING SOME TREES AND FLOWERS IS AN ACTION PLAN? SERIOUSLY? A FARMER'S MARKET IN THE PAST? C'MON, WHERE'S THE MEAT AND POTATOES/ REALLY GET SOME VIABLE THINGS DONE THINKING HERE?

“We have to take a step,” Sherrer said. “Lay the first brick.”

Later he added: “We have the right people to get it done.”

WHAT DOES THIS STATEMENT MEAN? GET WHAT DONE SPECIFICALLY? AND WHAT QUALIFIES AS THE "RIGHT PEOPLE"

Several others in the group agreed.

THAT'S NICE. AND.....?

Rick Pearce, president of the Chamber of Commerce serving Middletown, Monroe and Trenton, said renovating the downtown is “a challenge” and “there is no magic answer. We just need to get to work.”

JUST "NEED TO GET TO WORK". HMMM. I THINK SOMEONE ELSE EARLIER IN THE ARTICLE SAID THE SAME THING. AND.....? WORK ON WHAT? START WHERE WITH THE WORK? WHAT'S THE GAMEPLAN? TARGET TO ACCOMPLISH?

Community volunteer Mike Scorti said since the Paducah trip, the city has done an “enormous job” bringing in retail business.

WHERE IN THE HELL IS SCORTI LIVING? WHAT PAIR OF ROSE-COLORED GLASSES HAD HE BOUGHT? CLASSIC CASE OF DENIAL...."ENORMOUS JOB" BRINGING IN RETAIL BUSINESS. SERIOUSLY SCORTI?

“We are on the right track,” he said.

RIGHT TRACK TO WHERE? A DEAD END? A BRICK WALL? ANOTHER CLUSTER?

Selecting manager ‘critical decision’

Ken Cohen, president of Cohen Brothers, said the city is facing a “critical decision” as it selects its next city manager. City Manager Judy Gilleland is retiring in early June and the city recently released the names of the 29 applicants.

On Wednesday, while visiting Greenville, S.C., Cohen said Middletown doesn’t need another administrator, rather an innovator, someone who can “take the city forward.”

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SOMEONE WHO WILL AGREE TO FOLLOW DIRECTIONS FROM MY MMF GROUP. COHEN, THE DAM CITY HASN'T BEEN "TAKEN FORWARD" IN THE LAST THREE DECADES. THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THE SHAPE WE ARE IN. ( BY THE WAY KEN, YOU SEEM VERY INTERESTED IN DIRECTING THE ACTIVITY HERE. WHEN ARE YOU MOVING BACK TO MIDDLETOWN FROM MAINEVILLE?)

He also stressed that if none of the applicants fit the qualities the city is seeking, more resumes should be accepted.

“Do not hire the wrong person,” he said. “Don’t settle.”

HIRE A PERSON WHO WILL ACCEPT THE MMF DOCTRINE, GO ALONG WITH THE CLUB MENTALITY AND BE ANOTHER PUPPET FOR MY GROUP.

ISN'T THAT WHAT IS GOING TO REALLY HAPPEN WHEN ALL THE SMOKE CLEARS FOLKS?



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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.


Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Apr 24 2014 at 11:59am
http://www.daytondailynews.com/videos/news/video-mayor-mulligan-talks-with-jns-rick-mccrabb/vCYQfH/


Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 24 2014 at 12:58pm
Middletown's biggest problem today and the past 40 years, is leadership void. Its not that there aren't extremely bright, innovators willing to help the city rethink its position, and reposture. There are, bright, ready, and willing. The problem is the giants of commerce left, and what has filled it are mini versions of individuals having come from old enterprises and industry sectors; paper, box making, widgets, recycling. These aren't innovators, disruptive thinkers, they are in businesses which are stagnant and don't change. There aren't innovators in public sector administration. Its the copy cat, follow mindset. Hamilton has a perceived innovator, so we have to get an innovator. Grab the buzz word of the day, of the month---innovation, accelerator, change agent.

Memo to council and MMF-  you have a base stable as a non profit, AKS could be bought, destroying the city entirely. Don't think out 20 years; you have 2-3. Get a Mayor to do the heavy lifting innovation facilitation, and expand the role of the finance, revitalization, and public safety management to operate as a team city manager replacement. The Mayor should be full-time, not twice monthly, and passing out plagues for merit badges.          

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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 27 2014 at 8:18am

Posted: 12:00 a.m. Sunday, April 27, 2014

Revitalizing downtown will take time, money, commitment

By  http://www.journal-news.com/staff/rick-mccrabb/" rel="nofollow - Staff Writer

 

GREENVILLE  The “before” and “after” pictures flashed on the screen almost didn’t look like the same place, except to those in the audience, the photos were believable because they’ve seen dilapidated buildings before.

During a three-day tour of Greenville, S.C. last week, about 25 Middletown officials and business leaders were shown black-and-white pictures of downtown Greenville from the late 1970s and more recent color pictures from the same locations. The photos from nearly 40 years ago looked eerily similar to how parts of downtown Middletown look today.

There were boarded up businesses and sparse shoppers, a far cry from how Greenville looks today.

Since Greenville started revitalizing its downtown, the city and its investors — through private and public partnerships — have spent hundreds of millions of dollars over the last 35 years. Greenville officials and residents said the money was well spent. And a local group, part of Middletown Moving Forward, which organized the tour, agreed after staying three days in the city, meeting with officials and walking downtown.

The lessons learned were many, they said, yet simple too: It took time and money — and lots of both — to turn Greenville from a dying city to a vibrant community that attracts 5.3 million visitors a year.

If Middletown hopes to accomplish the same, financial support and patience are paramount, the leaders said.

Since 1979 — one city official called Greenville a “35-year overnight success story” — the city has completed about 15 major renovations, five more projects are under way and five more are on the drawing board. And about every project was funded through public and private partnerships, city officials said. Today, it appears that most of a one-mile stretch of Main Street downtown was just constructed, and the countless retail shops, restaurants and bars that line the street were crowded last week. Those from Middletown said Greenville felt and looked like a college town, which was odd considering there are no major universities in the city.

The two downtown anchors are the Hyatt Regency Hotel that received an extensive renovation in 2012 and Fluor Field, which opened in 2006 after a record 10 months of construction. Public investment of $8.5 million coupled with private investments of $20.7 million made the baseball project a reality, and today it’s home of the Greenville Drive, a Class A affiliate of the Boston Red Sox. It resembles a smaller Fifth Third Field, home of the Dayton Dragons.

Between the hotel and ball park are numerous structures, probably none more impressive than the Peace Center for the Performing Arts, which was constructed in 1990 for $42 million — $13 million from the Peace family led the significant private sector contributions, $6.5 million from city funds, $6 million from a state bond issue and $1.5 million from Greenville County. The majority of city funds were from tax increment financing, officials said. The city provided all land assembly, utility work and landscaping. The park encompassing the grounds of the Peace Center is linked by a pedestrian bridge to the historic Reedy River Falls Park and then to Cleveland Park, the city’s major recreation park.

Downtown is dotted with water features, sculptures, historic markers, directional signs, while most of the parking lots are hidden by retail businesses or apartments/condominiums. Only a few of the businesses downtown are national chains.

“We wanted what was unique to the area,” said Nancy Whitworth, deputy city manager and economic and community development director.

Throughout the rebirth process, Greenville officials said it was “critical” to maintain a balance of retail, restaurants and bars, entertainment venues, hotels, apartments and condominiums. They didn’t want downtown to turn into an entertainment district, Whitworth said.

Hank Hyatt, from the Greenville Chamber of Commerce, said it’s important for the city to have a “consistent look and feel to attract businesses and residents.” From 2000 to 2012, Greenville’s population increased by 3,260, from 56,001 to 59,261. During that same period, Middletown’s population dropped by nearly 3,000.

Whitworth said Greenville has made its downtown “a major destination.”

She added the city has become “the place where people want to be.” She credited the success on a vision from previous city officials and qualified leaders who had to ability to convert those ideas into reality.

City Manager John Castile admitted Greenville caught “lightning in a bottle.” He said it was a combination of good timing and the city, its leaders and residents all coming together. He encouraged those from Middletown to “take risks” and then celebrate those successes when they happen.

Some of Greenville’s successes have been unique. The city’s struggling mall — those on the trip said they immediately thought of the Towne Mall Galleria — was converted into classrooms for several college branch campuses. Once known as the “Textile Center of the South,” Greenville now is home to innovation, higher education and technology.

T. Duane Gordon, president of the Middletown Community Foundation, said after three days in Greenville he realized “there are success stories out there.” He said the trip gave the group guidance how Greenville turned its downtown around.

Not surprising, he said Middletown’s biggest hurdle will be money. He said Greenville officials repeatedly told the group the importance of public and private partnerships to fund the projects.

“That’s an obstacle that has to be overcome,” Gordon said.

Middletown economic developer Denise Hamet agreed. She said the city can’t do it by themselves; and they don’t want to do it by themselves.

“It takes a team,” she said. “We have to look at our assets and see what we can achieve.”

Greenville still has its struggles. During a driving tour of the event, those from Middletown saw pockets of rundown neighborhoods, and they were told one of the goals of the city is to expand the renovations off Main Street. They were surprised to hear that Greenville has as many as 1,500 homeless people living there, and it’s a constant struggle to divert them off the business district.

Russell Stall, executive director of Greenville Forward, a visioning organization, said he was raised in the city, but moved his family to Atlanta in 1978 because his hometown had become “a horrible place.” He moved back 18 years later, a decision he never regretted.

“It’s easy to have pride in a place you love,” he said.

Mike Stautberg, president of Atrium Medical Center Foundation, spent time in the Greenville area when he worked for a healthcare company there. He remembers back 25 years ago when Greenville was beginning its improvement process.

“They were tired of the decline they were in,” he said. “Now it’s a very vibrant, very wonderful city. I knew they were going to improve, but I didn’t think they’d get this far. They are moving at paces that are hard to understand. Things are happening, things are coming after them.”

As for attracting new businesses, Stall said it’s all about perception. He said with a chuckle that some outsiders say they don’t know where Greenville is located, or if its residents wear shoes.

“But if we get them here, we got them,” he said.

Anita Scott Jones, a Middletown council member, said she left Greenville inspired because she knows “we can turn our city around; we are turning our city around, one piece at a time.”

Terry Sherrer, director of the Middletown Area United Way, added that if a community comes together with “a common cause anything is possible.”

Rick Pearce, president of the Chamber of Commerce serving Middletown, Monroe and Trenton, said the group needs to hold community meetings and discuss where residents want the city to go next. That’s only the first step, he said.

“We are not going to duplicate what they have done here,” he said. “We need to take ideas back to see what will work.”

Whatever is done will take time, warned Ken Cohen, president of Cohen USA and Middletown Moving Forward.

“We are starting 30 years behind them,” he said of Middletown’s plan to revitalize its downtown. “We have the resources and the abilities and it’s going to be a long struggle.”

Then he added: “Everybody has to be in. It starts with the first step.”

 



Posted By: TonyB
Date Posted: Apr 27 2014 at 9:46am
Does it really need to be said? At what point does the mantra "take a risk" lose all meaning? How many times are the citizens of Middletown going to be sold a bill of goods with this mantra only to watch the venture fail? Do I need to recap all the risky ventures the city of Middletown have embarked upon over the last 40 years that have gone wrong? The whole idea that we're somehow "behind" other cities in exploring risky ventures to revitalize Middletown is disengenuous and dangerous to solving the problems in the city. At this point, it would be far better to work on improvements to the infrastructure than coming up with a new "risky" scheme. Stop making up elaborate plans and fix what is wrong. Vision is no substitute for competence and this town has had enough "risk" without reward.


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 27 2014 at 9:51am
DID YOU CATCH THIS?

"the city and its investors — through private and public partnerships — have spent hundreds of millions of dollars over the last 35 years. Greenville officials and residents said the money was well spent."

BUT YET, THE STORY DIDN'T INCLUDE IF THE PEOPLE HAD AS MUCH "ENTHUSIASM" ABOUT THIS PLAN AND THEIR MONEY SPENT AS THE CITY OFFICIALS HAD. WONDER HOW THE PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? WE DON'T KNOW.

AND THIS?

"The majority of city funds were from tax increment financing"

SINCE THERE WERE PUBLIC FUNDS USES, DOES THIS MEAN THE PEOPLE HAD THEIR TAXES RAISED ON THEM AT VARIOUS POINTS? HOW DOES THAT PAN OUT IN A CITY LIKE MIDDLETOWN WHICH IS POOR? AS OPPOSED TO GREENVILLE, WITH THEIR PRIVATE DONORS, HOW MANY PRIVATE DONORS WOULD MIDDLETOWN HAVE IN COMPARISON?

AND NOW THE RAH RAH, ATTEMPT TO PUMP UP THE CITY STATEMENTS....

Middletown economic developer Denise Hamet agreed. She said the city can’t do it by themselves; and they don’t want to do it by themselves.
“It takes a team,” she said. “We have to look at our assets and see what we can achieve.”

Anita Scott Jones, a Middletown council member, said she left Greenville inspired because she knows “we can turn our city around; we are turning our city around, one piece at a time.”
Terry Sherrer, director of the Middletown Area United Way, added that if a community comes together with “a common cause anything is possible.”
Rick Pearce, president of the Chamber of Commerce serving Middletown, Monroe and Trenton, said the group needs to hold community meetings and discuss where residents want the city to go next. That’s only the first step, he said.
“We are not going to duplicate what they have done here,” he said. “We need to take ideas back to see what will work.”
Whatever is done will take time, warned Ken Cohen, president of Cohen USA and Middletown Moving Forward.
“We are starting 30 years behind them,” he said of Middletown’s plan to revitalize its downtown. “We have the resources and the abilities and it’s going to be a long struggle.”
Then he added: “Everybody has to be in. It starts with the first step.”

I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS...

"have spent hundreds of millions of dollars over the last 35 years"

REPEAT

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE LAST 35 YEARS. MIDDLETOWN DOES NOT HAVE "HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS" IN THEIR WALLETS FOR THIS NOR DO THEY KNOW HOW TO PRODUCE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY. THE SITUATIONS ARE DIFFERENT IN GREENVILLE AND HERE. NO RICH PRIVATE INVESTORS HERE, PEOPLE HERE ARE TOO POOR TO AFFORD THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASES FROM THE PUBLIC PORTION AND GREENVILLE APPEARS TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SMART ENOUGH TO PULL SOMETHING LIKE THIS OFF. NOT HERE.IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN. THE CITY HAS GIVEN AWAY WHAT THEY BOUGHT AND THE RESULTS HAVEN'T BEEN PRODUCTIVE.

MORE PADUCAH CRAP WITH THE SAME RESULT.

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Posted By: TonyB
Date Posted: Apr 27 2014 at 9:56am
How many hundreds of millions of dollars were spent on the City Centre Mall? Lake Middletown? The money to invest in risky ventures has been flushed with nothing to show for it. Stop trying to make a huge splash and fix the roads!



Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: Apr 27 2014 at 10:26am
I'm glad they came back inspired and energized to revitalize the downtown area of Middletown. I think everyone in Middletown would like to see a rebirth in our area too but their overnight success was 30 years in the making and Greenville told them it takes MONEY and PATIENCE. Middletown is a little short on both counts. The NUMBER ONE thing Middletown has to do to begin this journey is fire Marty Kohler. If you want cooperation from the city he has to go. He is always throwing up roadblocks to progress. We have lost many projects because of his inability to work with people. I know several people that has expressed a desire to be part of this rebirth and they have the money and business sense to be a contributor in this effort but it appears there are some community organizations that only wants to go it alone so they reap all the accolades and the credit when it takes more time, money and people to make it a success. We have a great deal of talent and money in this town and some are willing to give both if approached nicely. I also noticed Greenville has a deputy city manger that appears to also be the economic AND community director. Can we learn from this that we don't need to be top heavy with too many people to get the job done. Some talented and well placed people can make it work and may eliminate disagreements on key issues. Greenville also said they were blessed with previous city officials with visions and with QUALIFIED leaders who had the ability to work with community and city to accomplisih their goals. So Middletown this can be accomplished but it takes time and the right people. So roll up your selves and get started. jmo


Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 27 2014 at 10:36am
Here's seconding your motion, here, here!

Yesterday, the Journal News had the Sharonville chamber of commerce director discuss its success, attributed fully to its location and companies desire for speedy logistics transfer and receipt, ergo, proximity to 75, 275, 71.

Sharonville and Greenville- similarities.

Greenville and Middletown- no similarities.

Furman is a world-class university. MUM not quite Furman.

Mild weather advantage, infrastructure, young professionals, history (real, not recent).

You won't find 'all in' on version 4.0, downtown Middletown, especially when the balance sheet shows a negative $ 2 MM and counting presently.

Did anyone come back with pictures of paved streets, or does Greenfield have a plan like Middletown, where residents in neighborhoods can petition to have the city pave streets which you pay for for many years. Something tells me Greenville also paves its streets, and picks up leaves, and can pay for police and fire support. They may even have 3-4 street machines running, and no grass 4 ft tall showing through the cracks in roads.          


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Posted By: luke
Date Posted: Apr 27 2014 at 11:42am
Just curious as a bystander....call me Curious George.

How many years are residents going to tolerate the fox having control of the chicken hen. Marty Kohler, Mulligans, enjoying all the money being taken from city and putting downtown.

The investors are the state and tax credits. Beggers with tin cups, that's all Middletown has become.

Your top 1% of wage earners, all faxes in chicken house, Newlin kid, cop,  today, $89,000, Dad, magistrate. Jeffries, 31, Fenwick kid, cop, $103,000, dad, retired cop. Noah Powers Jr. $90,000, dad, sr, judge, and former city council member. List is over 50. Neptotism has a home in the chicken house.

Your banker Middletown. Tin cup handouts.


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It has come to our attention that the Sorg Opera Revitalization Group, in partnership with the City of Middletown and Cincinnati State’s, request for capital funding submitted last October and later vetted and recommended by the Oh Arts Council, (FY 2015 and 2016 Capital Project Requests and Recommendations Received as of January 2, 2014) was not included in HB 497 first reading yesterday. HB 497 is the Ohio State Capital Improvement Bill which appropriates funding for capital projects around the state. This funding is a significant component of the Sorg’s overall fundraising strategy and would provide a critical turning point for the renovation and re-birth of the Sorg Opera House complex.

It is widely known and agreed that a fully functioning Sorg Opera House is key to Downtown Middletown’s economic revitalization. Further, a recent study conducted through the University of Dayton revealed that the Sorg’s combined 4yr economic impact is estimated to generate over $10M return to the community in the form of jobs, sales and income tax revenues, tourism, etc. Additionally, if granted capital funding, the Sorg project will create nearly 100 construction jobs, 60 full time permanent jobs post construction within the Sorg’s own commercial complex, and generate additional 50 jobs within the downtown core. This is a win/win for all of Middletown.

Time is of the essence! HB 497 is scheduled to move from the House to the Senate next Wednesday, March 26th. Representative Tim Derickson is fully supportive of the project and is committed to doing what he can to reinstate the Sorg project into the bill. However, we need your help NOW!

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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 7:57am

SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT


Lessons from Greenville, SC: A Community Debriefing

Friday, May 2, 2014 | 4:00-5:30 p.m.
Pendleton Art Center | 1105 Central Avenue, Middletown, Ohio

Middletown is poised to take advantage of several economic development opportunities. As Middletown continues to grow, Middletown Moving Forward looks to move our area further, faster by borrowing lessons from other successful communities. To this end, Middletown Moving Forward coordinated an April 21-23 visit to Greenville, SC to explore its economic development and downtown revitalization efforts.

Participants will hear about the lessons learned from Greenville and initial ideas about how to apply those lessons to Middletown. For more information about the event, please contact, Calista Smith, Interim Director, Middletown Moving Forward, 513-252-8129 or  http://webmailb.juno.com/webmail/new/8?folder=Inbox&msgNum=0000j00:001JNm6B000024gO&block=1&msgNature=all&msgStatus=all&count=1398772164&randid=2095766094&content=central#" rel="nofollow - chs@chsmithassociates.com .
 



Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 8:42am
"As Middletown continues to grow"    

GROW WHERE? WHAT AREAS OF TOWN ARE GROWING? WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE LOOKING TO FIND GROWTH?

THOUGHT MIDDLETOWN WAS LOSING POPULATION (AND BUSINESS....AND SCHOOL POPULATION.....AND INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE......AND IMAGE......AND....AND)

WAIT!

MY MISTAKE. YES WE ARE GROWING....IN SECTION 8 AND LOW INCOME AND FOLKS BROUGHT IN HERE FROM DAYTON AND CINCY TO UP THE NUMBERS ON CRIME, DRUGS, GANGS, DESTRUCTION OF ONCE NICE NEIGHBORHOODS AND GENERAL GHETTO ACTIVITY.

I TOTALLY OVERLOOKED THIS GROWTH CATEGORY.

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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 9:18am
Vet
At the moment our only potential growth area is around the airport, however since City Hall has wasted so much.
money in THEIR DOWNTOWN they now do not have funds for the upgrades needed at the airport. I have heard that several new fast food places are planing to move to that area. Hope this is true.


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 9:38am
Originally posted by Vivian Moon Vivian Moon wrote:

Vet
At the moment our only potential growth area is around the airport, however since City Hall has wasted so much.
money in THEIR DOWNTOWN they now do not have funds for the upgrades needed at the airport. I have heard that several new fast food places are planing to move to that area. Hope this is true.


OK, THE CITY HAS TWO AREAS OF GROWTH....THE DOWNTOWN, WITH IT'S APPARENT LIMITED POTENTIAL AS INDICATED BY THEIR STRUGGLE TO CREATE ANY REAL PLAN AND THE MONEY-WASTING VENTURES IN BUILDING PURCHASES FOLLOWED BY GIVE-AWAYS, THE APPARENT STAGNATION OF CINCY STATE AND THE HISTORY BEING BUILT ON BUSINESSES OPENING AND CLOSING IN SHORT ORDER.

AND THE AIRPORT, WITH A BUSINESS OR TWO THERE WITH HANGER RENTAL OPERATIONS AND SOME POTENTIAL TO BUILD ON THE CURRENT SITUATION.......

AND NOW, YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT THE AREA OF MORE PROMISE WILL NOT SEE CITY SUPPORT BECAUSE THE CITY HAS SPENT (WASTED) THEIR MONEY ON THEIR DOWNTOWN.

YA KNOW, THEY JUST CAN'T SEEM TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS AT THE RIGHT TIME TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING OF IMPORTANCE CAN THEY?

WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, A CITY ECON. DIRECTOR, A CITY ECON. MANAGER AND THE MMF GUIDANCE AND NONE OF THESE PEOPLE CAN SEEM TO GET THEIR HOUSE IN ORDER AS TO GETTING ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED. WHY IS IT THAT OTHER CITIES CAN SHOW SOMETHING FOR THE MONEY SPENT AND THIS CITY SEEMS TO CONSTANTLY BE THEIR OWN WORSE ENEMY?


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Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 10:03am
One must understand the intent of the leadership members, city council, and MMF.

Firstly, city council was put in place, with its reduced numbers from 7 to 5, to undertake the ONLY economic development the city has ever known: raising taxes, which is their uplift revenue machine.

City leadership failed to develop the east end, because companies, business, and residents don't want to associate with a loser, a tarnished brand. It doesn't take a Master's from Harvard to know Middletown's top leadership at AKS, CSH, Atrium, left Middletown, with Bishop Fenwick, and many others. Why move in.....when the evidence points so many are leaving.

Someone got the ear of a small group downtown, and read a case study from Georgetown's graduate program in Public Administration and Urban Renewal that a city must have a vibrant downtown to survive. So, Middletown is stuck on revitalizing a dead city.

MMF was put in place for three efforts:

1) Propaganda and Prop- to spin all the wonders the city is undertaking and lend support the city is at least trying to do something. Because if one is trying to do something, residents hang firm, stick around, don't completely fold the cards, and cause a crash and run on the banks, or more importantly, depart Middletown in mass, and at once.

2) The Buyers Club Cloak- city gives money, MMF buys property city can't be law, so a means of laundering.

3) Political appointment- raise cash to pump into candidates that are honed to city hall's bidding. Simple, and their mission/ vision statement.

Middletown relies and calls economic development and revenue generation----higher taxation. They call investors, risk takers....which really are state and federal funding from grants, hand-outs, earmarks. They have the economic department spending 99% of their time chasing tax credits for buildings given away, while no incremental tax base has risen in 20 years.

This is not a winning formula. They are getting dominated by surrounding communities, including school districts. And yet....some believe in miracles. 

Greenville, just like Puducah, was not to alter Middletown's landscape, to make the city as a mirror of the two, but to give the impression something was/is being done, to keep many from running over each other heading to the exit doors.

When your building is burning to the ground.....it's better to have orderly conduct so there is no trampling one another to flee.     



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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 11:13am
Great overview acclaro.

A shame there aren't enough older residents left that knew the city in it's better days, when competency was present, that still care, have the energy, time and money and want to participate in cleaning house and starting over before this town actually becomes a ghost town. Just hate to sit and watch the dismemberment of a once decent town and not have the means to salvage it. Just flat out not enough resources in decent citizen leadership and voter support to overcome the current powers that are dragging it through the mud.

I can understand people who have not lived here their entire lives and are not in their 50's thru their 80's, having experienced the climate of the city when it was healthy. They have no clue as to what this city once was and have no heart-felt connection to the city. People like Gilleland, Kohler, Adkins, Landen, Mort, Scott-Jones and others, with no attachment to this place, find it easy to tear it to pieces. No feelings, no ownership, no "hometown" feelings to do otherwise.

What I just can't believe, are people like Ken Cohen, Larry Mulligan...people who have spent their childhood here, knew what the town was like when it was run correctly.....they should know better. They should have some compassion for the city. Must not have cared for the town in the first place to have agreed to the damage that has been done. Some people have no sentiment nor attachments to anything. How sad to not have that human trait.

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Posted By: swohio75
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 12:59pm
Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:


People like Gilleland, Kohler, Adkins, Landen, Mort, Scott-Jones and others, with no attachment to this place, find it easy to tear it to pieces. No feelings, no ownership, no "hometown" feelings to do otherwise.


I do believe Marty Koehler grew up in Middletown and is a graduate of Middletown High School.



Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 1:14pm
swoh75, yes, the same individual.

They were concerned he would be unavailable as the MCSD BOE was considering him strongly for treasurer.



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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 29 2014 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by swohio75 swohio75 wrote:


Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:


People like Gilleland, Kohler, Adkins, Landen, Mort, Scott-Jones and others, with no attachment to this place, find it easy to tear it to pieces. No feelings, no ownership, no "hometown" feelings to do otherwise.


I do believe Marty Koehler grew up in Middletown and is a graduate of Middletown High School.



Thank you for the info. Wasn't aware Kohler was a Middletown kid. Wouldn't have acknowledged it if I did. Even worse that he is a local. Ought to be ashamed of himself for his contribution to the malaise.

But alas, one must demonstrate some morals, character and a conscience to feel shame. Doubtful in his case.

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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 04 2014 at 8:17pm
We have a timeline started here from the time this little group departed to the return to the latest comments from the participants as to what they brought back with them and what they intend to implement.

Anyone taking bets that this will end up like Paducah..IE...a waste of time, producing little to no activity and what little activity will be introduced will die on the vine in short order?

This little city leader skit is getting rather old isn't it? Announce a road trip/ do a "get out of the city" boondoggle, get a little press on simulating positive activity to develop the city, then, phase three, the whole thing fades away as time goes on, with the city leaders thinking we had forgotten about their failed ideas.

Ya know, if one reads this forum, it doesn't take long to notice that we don't forget their little indiscretions. As a matter of fact, sometimes our ace researchers bring back articles from 3-5 years ago to allow comparison between what was promised and what actually took place.

Who's fooling who here city boys and girls?

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Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: May 04 2014 at 9:53pm
Right you are, Vet and others!!!  And remember--the "new plan" resulting from the Greenville trip really is NOT new, it's the same old plan they've been regurgitating for over twenty years, so they have already had DECADES and it is still FAILING!!!

It's antiques, art, and Olde Tyme Middletowne, over and over again, and it continues to FAIL throughout the ages!!!

"Here is another plan, just like the other plan...Yay, yay, rah, rah...cheers for the "new" plan!!!"  (But it's gonna take some time and we're just taking the first step...so we'lll plant a few flowers and trees.) 

NO!!! It's NOT the "first step".  You've been taking these SAME "first steps" over and over for DECADES!!!

How many times have we planted--and REMOVED--trees along Central Avenue "Downe Towne"???  Anyone??? Beuller??  Anyone???


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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: May 04 2014 at 10:07pm
I direct your attention to the last time that we had a "new plan" (which was just like the old plan):

Kelly Cowan proudly proclaimed: This time we will succeed!  This time we've got PAC [Pendleton Art Center)!  

So...how has that worked out???  Now they'll bring out ANOTHER "new" plan (which will be just like the old plan) and proclaim:  "This time we will succeed!  This time, we've been to Greenville!"



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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: crazycatcher
Date Posted: May 04 2014 at 10:12pm
VET
You should sometimes wonder why no one takes this FORUM seriously. Making statements about people you know nothing about is its number one issue. I can say for a FACT that Ann Mort has lived in Middletown for 50 plus years. As for Landen he was born in Middletown, graduated from Middletown High, taught at Middletown High school and has always worked in the Middletown area. So what exactly constitutes you more as a "citizen of Middletown" than him?

I support your right to get on here and bitch about this city all you want. But learn about the people you bitch and slander on this FORUM before you cast stones.


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: May 04 2014 at 10:42pm
CC: it's not about who's from where or not, what it is about is the person regardless of where you're from. These good old boys from Middletown lack the integrity or honesty we like to think is the values taught here in Middletown.If these members of council or city employes can't even uphold their oath of office then I'm sorry they don't deserve our respect. IMO


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: May 05 2014 at 1:03am
CrazyCatcher
    I’m going to butt into this conversation because I’m tired and you just hit a major nerve center.

cc: You should sometimes wonder why no one takes this FORUM seriously.
   
Well CrazyCatcher you should take this blog, our comments and our research very serious.
Middletown is going broke and I don’t see a life boat on the horizon that can come and save us from the total incompetence and wastefulness that is going on at City Hall. Millions and millions of dollars gone..the numbers are absolutely mind bogging to read. Business deals that make my three little grey cells go tilt..tilt..tilt..with better betting odds at a crap table.
    The frugal old Giants of our past would be shocked if they returned to see the conditions of their once beloved community.
  
cc: Making statements about people you know nothing about is its number one issue. I can say for a FACT that Ann Mort has lived in Middletown for 50 plus years. As for Landen he was born in Middletown, graduated from Middletown High, taught at Middletown High school and has always worked in the Middletown area. So what exactly constitutes you more as a "citizen of Middletown" than him?
    CrazyCatcher, this isn’t about a popularity contest. I don’t care about any of the above or even if they are really nice people from really nice backgrounds, that go to church 20 times a week. We have all heard the stories of some very nice people, doing terrible things and going to jail for a very long time.
    What I do care about is what’s going on at City Hall behind closed doors...and I can tell you it’s not a pretty picture.  
    Every council meeting they stand up and lie to the citizens of
Middletown or they tell half truths so they can get the votes they want for their special projects.  Many of the things that they are doing are flat out illegal. How can all this happen with four attorneys sitting in the council chamber?
    I have lost all respect for those at City Hall because they simply no longer deserve it.






Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 05 2014 at 6:45am
Originally posted by crazycatcher crazycatcher wrote:

VET
You should sometimes wonder why no one takes this FORUM seriously. Making statements about people you know nothing about is its number one issue. I can say for a FACT that Ann Mort has lived in Middletown for 50 plus years. As for Landen he was born in Middletown, graduated from Middletown High, taught at Middletown High school and has always worked in the Middletown area. So what exactly constitutes you more as a "citizen of Middletown" than him?

I support your right to get on here and bitch about this city all you want. But learn about the people you bitch and slander on this FORUM before you cast stones.


For God's sake open your eyes bud. See what is going on in this town. See what has gone on since the City Centre Mall was built and then torn down. See the grand idea of Lake Middletown turn into an overgrown mudhole. See the AK Pavillion at Bicentennial Commons used two or three times and then forgotten about. See the cluster at CS that has never come to fruition as yet. See the infrastructure and roads we all drive on each day. See the low income/section 8 overabundance dragging our city down the toilet and taxing our police and fire folks. See the empty storefronts downtown and the feeble attempt to re-vitalize the area. See the cronyism at the city building. See the stagnant growth by the Atrium Medical Center. See the low performance of our school system. See the decline in enrollment. See the decline in city population. See the low image our city holds with our neighbors. See the town's general condition as we head toward a movie set depicting an apocalytic event. Hell, the city looks like a Snake Pleskin "Escape from New York" movie set in various areas.

Now, as to Landen and Mort. You are an obvious supporter of their style. Hate to remind you bud,, but Mort's "good news" crap is so far from the truth, it is actually comical at times. Too much rah rah for a town driven into the ground. She may be a "cheerleader for the city" but it's a title only with no substance. We're still in last place in the standings and have been for decades. And you can't see that? What the hell are you looking at?

Landen? If he is a home-grown product, even more reason to ask why he would cooperate with the destruction of his hometown. People like Kohler, Landen, the Mulligans et al, who grew up here, should be ashamed of themselves, but are caught up in the little city web of lies, deceit, back-room deals and probably illegal activity. Landen doesn't even enforce the city laws because his interpretation changes as the situation changes. Is that how competency works?

Yes, Landen is a "citizen". What constitues me being "more of a citizen"? Nothing, other than I care enough about the city not to have been a part of it's destruction. If I were in his position, I would never have agreed to what has happened in the last four decades nor what is happening now. It appears personal agendas and greed have countered the "I give a dam about my hometown" feelings.

I may not know these people on a personal basis, not my kind of people, but I know enough about them to form an opinion and it isn't positive. They have helped ruin a once fine city..and that is tragic.

You must be a relative, a city employee or Mort or Landen. They have done nothing to warrant praise nor sponsorship. Mort, while on council, accomplished what, an occasional "rah rah" comment during the meetings. That ain't gonna get new jobs in here, roads repaired or solve any problems in any capacity. Too much PR and not enough action. Just a "talking suit" sitting behind that council desk. The city would have been better off having a pro-active player occupying the chair. Same goes for the rest of council.

You need to develop a skill. Let's call it "recognizing the truth". Otherwise, one stays in denial or in a fantasyland.

Question for you.....if no one takes this forum seriously, why are you here checking it out and why do we have our little "city sponsored detractors" stir the pot here? Must be some concern from your buddies at city hall. It must be hard hearing the truth when you're on the side of the ones doing the city wrong.





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Posted By: buckeye43719
Date Posted: May 05 2014 at 6:59am
I agree with Vet. I have lived in this town all my life, I am 64yrs old and a graduate of Middletown High School. It doesn't take a person who has lived here many years to see this town is toast. The downtown area of Middletown is a joke. It has been going downhill for years. I see no hope for this city despite what the city cheerleaders think.


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Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: May 05 2014 at 10:54am
Talk around the water cooler is Dougie may be lead in the city manger's job. This a disaster in the making. This city can not afford "business as usual" and that's what we will have if he is the one picked.This man does not have the ability to be truthful with the council or the people. Back door deals will be come the norm in Middletown as he has already shown.We can only hope council wakes up in time to stop this disaster from happening.


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: May 05 2014 at 6:13pm
imo this forum is taken seriously because it IS widely read by many who won't admit it. And more of those reading agree with a lot more of what is mentioned here than you are led to believe.

maybe Vet would be better informed if our local govt.was more transparent and forthcoming with what they are doing. They ARE here to serve the public instead of themselves foremost.

How many really understand the web of funding and intertwined relationships that have gone on in the area formerly known as "downtown"?

We ALL care about Middletown and want it to grow properly out of the current situation. If this forum is so inconsequential, why go after Vet? Why not direct your concerns about bad info to our city leaders providing so little data?


Posted By: over the hill
Date Posted: May 05 2014 at 9:02pm
Oh this forum IS relevant . Yes we bitch but it's because we do care about our town. We bitch hoping someone will take heed to what we are saying. Take the time to check it out and you may find what we are saying is true. A lot of times where there's smoke there's fire. IMO



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