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    Posted: Nov 08 2019 at 3:32am
Just remember what Joe Mulligan helped do to Middletown.  DON'T let him do the same thing to all of Butler County!
Vote AGAINST "Joe the RINO" in the primary this March.

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Would vote for Muterspaw in a heartbeat. If he were able to do the city manager's job as well as he performed as police chief, it would do a 180 in changing my opinions of this city government that I have had for decades. He is a hometown boy with first hand knowledge pertaining to the climate and direction of the city and it's many issues.

If we could get the recycled thinking council people like Joe Mulligan and Moon off council, we just might elicit change in thinking and city direction. Otherwise, we have only robots pushing the MMF agenda and that does regular folks living here no favors. It was a start extricating Larry Mulligan and his predictable MMF thinking. Need to follow that up with the other Mulligan when his term is finished. I say give Condrey a chance and a learning curve time period before lowering the boom. Even old Larry Mulligan had a starting point as a mayor and council person. He had his chances for 12 years and never changed his tune. The man is in his 50's and, while never leaving the city, never learned what Middletown was all about.

IMO, going outside for a city manager candidate just might get us an unwanted former city manager from another city. I offer Elizabeth Lolli as an example in the schools. She became a problem in the Middletown schools and went to Monroe with the same negative scene there and now is the Dayton superintendent and their problem child right now. These bad players just start making the circuit taking their issues from town to town leaving a path of negative results behind. The same could happen with a city manager from outside. We know what we would get with Muterspaw and have the added benefit of him knowing the complexion of the city and taking ownership as a home town resident. He adds the important aspect of being a personable, common sense, approachable candidate as well.
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Originally posted by middletownscouter middletownscouter wrote:

Random prediction:  Given past history in this town and the current state of council and our City Manager, I won't be terribly surprised to see our now former MPD Chief Muterspaw become our new City Manager in the near future.

I certainly hope not.  Middletown could benefit from outside expertise moving forward.  Not to devalue Muterspaw's contributions.
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Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:

So
We have no police chief or city manager—a new mayor with no local city experience who has lived here for 2 years—a very young emotional council.

Didn’t see this coming
Should be interesting!
And if rumors hold true a new Economic Development Director.

Note the language used to begin termination: 

“no longer desires to employ Douglas Adkins as City Manager because of irreconcilable differences between Council and Mr. Adkins concerning leadership style, and these differences make his continued work as City Manager untenable.” 

Adkins is smart enough and capable enough; but I think there are definitely some leadership style and personality traits that would keep him from being effective moving forward. And his ego.



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True, before he retired he said he was out of public life for good.  Then within a week or two of his earlier than initially planned retirement he opened the door for a potential city council run in the future.  I don't think he'll be out of the public eye for long, just a personal opinion.

Side note, as I've done for the past couple of years, I've updated the spreadsheet that tracks turnout and voter disengagement/apathy for Middletown area races and ballot items.  Posted details in the thread I've used for it at http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/topic6604_post51276.html
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interesting--probably the best thing for citizens and an inexperienced Council/Admin

Don't see him wanting the job though--he did just retire
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Random prediction:  Given past history in this town and the current state of council and our City Manager, I won't be terribly surprised to see our now former MPD Chief Muterspaw become our new City Manager in the near future.
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So
We have no police chief or city manager—a new mayor with no local city experience who has lived here for 2 years—a very young emotional council.

Didn’t see this coming
Should be interesting!
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Moon and Nenni huh. Moon is a non factor just like Joe Mulligan is on new idea contributions IMO. Both seem to just occupy a council chair. Glad to finally see Mulligan voted out. Waited a long time for that. I see Nenni as a downtown business owner ally joining Amy Vitori. Right or wrong, I see them tunnel focused on the downtown area to foster their businesses while disregarding the other parts of town as to development. Could them being on council, and making decisions concerning downtown, while owning businesses there, be a conflict of interest? Dunno. Voted for Condrey, Cramer and Wittman. Would like to have seen the beginning of incumbent removal and housecleaning on council. Got it with the Mulligan removal but would have liked to have seen Moon gone too. JMO
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Furthermore - looking at the unoffical results - Take a close look at the tallies for the 5 people running for the open seat...

they got 73.6% of the total vote. 

We can't let 4 people divvy up the voting pool like that anymore.  We need to have one or two strong candidates instead of piecemealing the vote like this.  I have nothing against Talbot Moon (and I hear he's an ok guy, just never had any dealings with him personally - but I do have an 'anybody but the incumbents' mentality right now) if only two of the 4 had run - the outcome could have been totally different.

Just sayin'
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Hmmm....still two precincts out, but it looks like a new mayor?  And one new councilwoman?

I think its a good start, plus with the current council flexing their muscle and starting the process of sweeping Adkins out the door - does this equal a great future for Middletown?
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I agree with you, and am voting for Cramer.

JMO from my conversations throughout the town.
I honestly like all of the candidates and trust their intention.
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I would agree.   But I wouldn't rule out Cramer.  I think he has the potential to knock Moon out.  Though I gather Moon has the backing of the old Middletown establishment. 
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Spider’s Council prediction:

Moon and wittman will be elected[EMAIL= ][/EMAIL]
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Forgot about Monica Nenni. Seems to me she is the same type of candidate with the same downtown interests as Joe Wittman. She may add to the Vitori cause on council. We could potentially end up with Vitori, Nenni or Wittman on council. If so, do we want a majority on council with downtown business interests? Wouldn't there be a question as to a majority of downtown business owners manning council seats with the ability to push a downtown focus agenda using council as a mechanism? Also need to remember that Mulligan is in favor of downtown focus as his home lies just outside the downtown area on S. Main St.
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Watched the council/mayor debate the other day offered by the Journal. Will vote for the lady opposing Mulligan for mayor. Anyone but the Mulligans. Didn't know he did, but since Hart dropped out, will vote for Levi. Still skeptical on Joe Wittman. He had some good ideas during the debate but is still caught up in the downtown development/artzy thing and think that might give us another Amy Vitori on council who seems only concerned about downtown improvement (for her business interest) and to heck with the other parts of town. Gonna get more same old same old from Moon. While he made some comments that seemed correct to me, he has had enough time to have distanced himself from the council theme talk and seems to go along with the others who are clueless as to what direction/priorities this city needs to take/have. The obvious is not apparent to the current council. (Same goes for the school board) Liked Hart's idea of developing revenue by attracting more companies to locate here rather than to tax the hell out of the residents. He also believed the city was not business friendly based on his experiences in developing his business at the airport. Like anyone who wishes to fix the basics like the streets and infrastructure, let the downtown develop through private investment only and wants to concentrate on police and fire upgrades. JMO
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Hart dropped out of the race yesterday.
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Voted first day of early voting.
Voted for Hart team.
Change desperately needed!
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anyone going to vote?
if so, for whom?
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Good idea spider. Clean house. Vote all incumbents out and start over with new people. Perhaps we can change the cards we are dealt by the constant choice of the same faces who fail to enact the city direction that is proper.
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I think that we will go with the Hart team across the board maybe Levi Cramer

Clean slate
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Less ego
Less drama
Less entitlement
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Don't forget...Early voting starts tomorrow!!!
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The kids of the VOTERS in this city don't go to Middletown City Schools.
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Then business as usual and no positive change on the horizon for the school board. Fancy school buildings with no quality business being conducted from within. Expect bottom dwelling results in the next report. What else is new. Apparently, the voters in this city are content with a failed district performance. Sad that they expect so little as to accountability.
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