Middletown Forum : Bike path repairs in limbo... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : Engineering : Bike path repairs in limbo... Thu, 22 Oct 2026 01:37:44 +0000 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:46:12 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4048 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Bike path repairs in limbo... : Hmmmm…I have been giving some... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29655&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29655 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 4048
Posted: Sep 13 2011 at 9:46am

Hmmmm…I have been giving some thought to this bike path problem and how to pay for the yearly repairs that will be required and the only answer is to build a toll gate and charge for each mile that they travel.

]]> Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:46:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29655&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29655 Bike path repairs in limbo... : Also of interest, would be the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29652&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29652 Author: 409
Subject: 4048
Posted: Sep 13 2011 at 7:57am

Also of interest, would be the amount of overtime involved.
In the case of Sunset, I noticed Saturday work and also some long work days.
]]> Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:57:07 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29652&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29652 Bike path repairs in limbo... : MikeWe still don’t know from... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29649&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29649 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 4048
Posted: Sep 13 2011 at 3:28am

Mike
We still don’t know from what fund and or funds the demo of Sunset Pool or the bike path is being paid. ]]> Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:28:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29649&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29649 Bike path repairs in limbo... : "Costs were comprised... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29648&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29648 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 4048
Posted: Sep 13 2011 at 12:48am

"Costs were comprised of $26,790 for asphalt material and $2,686 for gravel for a total material cost of $29,476, according to David Duritsch, director of public works and utilities."

So, the City has given us the costs for asphalt and gravel (materials) but what were the costs for the LABOR, equipment usage, supervision, consumables, and the like???  Until we know these line items, we wil not know the true costs of this job.
 
 
(Ditto for the Sunset Pool demolition.)]]> Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:48:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29648&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29648 Bike path repairs in limbo... : So by Vivians post it's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29647&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29647 Author: Hermes
Subject: 4048
Posted: Sep 12 2011 at 10:11pm

So by Vivians post it's safe for me to get my bicycle out of mothballs and traverse the great multi-million dollar trail ?
 
It sure took long enough.
]]> Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:11:57 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29647&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29647 Bike path repairs in limbo... : Bike path damages near $30KTwo... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29624&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29624 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 4048
Posted: Sep 11 2011 at 3:08pm

Bike path damages near $30K
Two sections were damaged during repair of sinkholes.

By Andy Sedlak, Staff Writer Updated 1:55 AM Sunday, September 11, 2011

MIDDLETOWN — Costs to repair two sections of a bike path city officials say was damaged during the repair of two sinkholes along the Great Miami Recreation Trail have totaled close to $30,000.

Two sections of the trail — one just north of Sixth Avenue and the other south of Windsor Avenue and Maple Street — were heavily damaged last spring following the formation of the 30-foot-wide holes that formed as a result of corroded sewer pipes.

City crews finished making the repairs in early September. Costs were comprised of $26,790 for asphalt material and $2,686 for gravel for a total material cost of $29,476, according to David Duritsch, director of public works and utilities.

The damage to the southern portion was caused by a contractor of the Miami Conservancy District who hauled material gravel to fill the sinkhole.

The city has already paid about $850,000 to repair corroded sewer pipes along the trail.

“In the heat of the battle, when you’re trying to protect the levy, that’s the kind of stuff that happens,” Duritsch said. “I don’t think the damage overall was as bad as I (initially) thought.”

The MCD put some funds toward the repairs, Durtisch said, but the exact amount could not be determined Friday.

“Part of the issue is they’re out of the bike path business,” he said. “We met with them and they were being supportive in any way they could. In the end, they did have some monies available for some of the gravel we needed for base.”

Contact this reporter at (513) 705-2871 or asedlak@coxohio.com.

 No comment…

]]> Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:08:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29624&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29624 Bike path repairs in limbo... : Sigh.Excuse me bud. Sorry it took... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29508&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29508 Author: Eleven
Subject: 4048
Posted: Sep 05 2011 at 12:37am

Sigh. Excuse me bud. Sorry it took so long to get back to the site.

 No, just thought it was a pretty strong and negative comment made about SK, a Mtown Company "bilking the city". Ask away I guess. Maybe a call down there or some emails? I probably do not have the answers for you.  I think there were several companies that also bid but I am not sure. I don't have a dog in this fight other than my tax dollars.  Was awhile back and to be honest, I was not paying that close of attention at that time.You are taking into account the other problems that arose at the time right? Hard to plan out all the rain and flooding. I do like when I see Mtown companies working around town. We have several reputatable businesses in town that could be used. Didn't much care for the out of state company tearing down the garage or Swallens.
Second,  was just pointing out the fact that our crumbling sewer system was a contributing factor, along with the record rainfalls and flooding. The city is going to ignore the problem and until they address them we will continue to have emergency repairs and they may not happen in "ideal" conditions. I pass though the area daily and I can tell you there were MCD trucks there constantly.They were monitoring the river levels, etc. Correct me but I think the city got the right of way deal with the promise to maintain and address any problems that happened to the bike path?
Hope you have a good Labor day  Smile
]]> Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:37:34 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29508&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29508 Bike path repairs in limbo... : Eleven says.... REALLY?? SK is... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29156&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29156 Author: VietVet
Subject: 4048
Posted: Aug 19 2011 at 6:18am

Eleven says....

REALLY?? SK is bilking the city? I'm sure there are many, many companies just lining up to work with our city goverment...I suppose they should have predicted the record rainfalls we had and the MCD driving up and down the bike path daily and factored it into their bid? Not to mention the other sewer collapse..Nice dig at a Middletown based company though. Just had to say it bc I know how much we love when companies from out of town come in and take our tax dollars with them when they leave...    

I said that Eleven, because it seems that everytime the city needs some work done, they appear to always contact SK. My point was, isn't there any other companies, either within the city limits or out of town, that would do the work cheaper than this or is SK the only company that Middletown officials use? If it is the latter, perhaps we can then ask the question "do we have some favors being done between someone on council, who approve the bids, someone in the city building who may be automatically recommending SK, when others have bid on the job, or perhaps we have a standing contract with SK to fix any and all issues. I don't know the answer as to why SK always keeps showing up as the winner in being awarded the work. Knowing the city officials can't be trusted, one is prone to ask these questions. Furthermore, as I stated, this started out as a $265,000 project, escalated to another $475,000 and now an additional $113,914. When one sees this happening, shouldn't there be some questions asked? Not being negative...just making some observations as to what may be construed as to bilking and a company that seems to get the bids all the time. The citizens are not allowed to question how their money is spent and if there are any special favors being done as to bidding practices? Are you taking the city leaders attitude that we mere citizens are not allowed to question? If so, it ain't gonna happen bud. ]]> Fri, 19 Aug 2011 06:18:42 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29156&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29156 Bike path repairs in limbo... : So--was anyone from the city... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29149&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29149 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 4048
Posted: Aug 18 2011 at 7:08pm

So--was anyone from the city actually the "person in charge" and monitoring the work on this project?
The bike path(oh no!!) probably wasn't destroyed in one drive-over, but over a series of time.
Shouldn't someone have noticed the deterioration and moved "off-path"?
No accountability whatsoever imo--as usual
On to the next folly and waste of taxpayer $$, like we have a load of it.
]]> Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:08:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29149&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29149 Bike path repairs in limbo... : Thanks Ms. Moon got a little off... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29147&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29147 Author: ground swat
Subject: 4048
Posted: Aug 18 2011 at 7:01pm

Thanks Ms. Moon got a little off track with Mr. P's content in his first post.  Well the taxpayers are stuck with this 7-8ft wide stretch of asphalt.  Maintenance on a levee I thought should really only be tree removal so roots don't cause openings and mowing the grass.  How about this for enjoying the river bottoms views, put a boat ramp in so some of us could enjoy the "RIVER" like countless others did years ago. Our fishing and hunting permits do support this benefit that all of us have really payed for.  The folks that watch over this marvel of human thinking and resolve aren't always happy about getting in "Their" river.  Without a doubt some of the most ass backwards thinking people making decisions on recreation.  Lets go clean up the flood plain so the walkers can walk their dogs.]]> Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:01:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4048&PID=29147&title=bike-path-repairs-in-limbo#29147