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   <title>Charter Committee : Then, given this information,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1041<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;03&nbsp;2009 at 8:40pm<br /><br />Then, given this information, if one was not a fan of the current regime and wanted to try to change the way the city is operated by  changing the charter,suggesting any hint of going against the way things are now is an exercise in futility as Council has the right to shoot down any opposition to their little empire. One would be wasting their time to participate. This is another example of offering citizens a chance to be involved on committees and slamming the door in their face when they voice an opinion that is contrary to their beliefs. On the other hand, if you volunteer for these committees just to provide an echo to what Council is saying, why go just to be their little hand puppet? It's amazing how many people just sit in these committee meetings, offer nothing and nod their heads like good little soldiers should. I've seen it in action. Gee, and they wonder why some of us don't buy Council's nonsense. Amazing.  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0" align="middle" />  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>Charter Committee : Vet from Dayton Daily News 2-13-09:   Lots...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1041<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;03&nbsp;2009 at 7:37am<br /><br />Vet from Dayton Daily News 2-13-09:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><H2><a href="http://www.dayt&#111;ndailynews.com/o/c&#111;ntent/shared-gen/blogs/dayt&#111;n/middletownnews/entries/2009/02/13/lots_for_the_charter_review_co.html" target="_blank"><strong><FONT color=#000000 size=5>Lots for the Charter Review Committee to consider</FONT></strong></A></H2><P =byline>By <a href="http://www.dayt&#111;ndailynews.com/o/c&#111;ntent/shared-gen/blogs/dayt&#111;n/middletownnews/entries/2009/02/13/lots_for_the_charter_review_co.html#postcomment" target="_blank"><FONT color=#0d5e96>Ed Richter </FONT></A>| Friday, February 13, 2009, 01:54 AM </P><P>The 2009 Charter Review Committee has only been sworn-in and organized for less than a week but the 15-member committee already has plenty to think about just from recent comments by members of Middletown City Council and the city’s Park Board.</P><P>Council selected the electors who will review the city’s main governing document, <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>and it will be council who will determine if the committee’s recommendations will get forwarded to the voters for final approval at the November general election.</P><DIV><a href="http://www.dayt&#111;ndailynews.com/o/c&#111;ntent/shared-gen/blogs/dayt&#111;n/middletownnews/entries/2009/02/13/lots_for_the_charter_review_co.htm" target="_blank">http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/middletownnews/entries/2009/02/13/lots_for_the_charter_review_co.htm</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#000000>So much for "only the people can change the charter," not city council."&nbsp; as Landen was quoted in his statement.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#000000>Any bets we get to vote on raising Council's compensation but not much else of Substance.&nbsp; Their I go again being negative....slap.<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Ouch" /></FONT></DIV></FONT></strong></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charter Committee : You folks are correct--BUT...  (There&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1041<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;03&nbsp;2009 at 7:21am<br /><br />You folks are correct--BUT...<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>(There's always a "but", isn't there?)...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The citizens can always put ANY Charter amendment on the ballot by "referendum"!&nbsp; It is a difficult process, though.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And I see that some folks want to try to make it more difficult for the average citizen to run for City office!&nbsp; Probably the same ones who want to keep the same folks in power generation after generation.&nbsp; <img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs%20Down" /></DIV>]]>
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   <title>Charter Committee : Vet That is my understanding...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1041<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;03&nbsp;2009 at 6:47am<br /><br />Vet<DIV>That is my understanding also<BR>Mr. Landen should have said " only the people can change the charter"...my their vote.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charter Committee : Today&amp;#039;s Journal has an article...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1041<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;03&nbsp;2009 at 6:33am<br /><br />Today's Journal has an article stating that the Charter Committee started the process of reviewing yesterday. The article had a comment from Les Landen who stated, " only the people can change the charter". It is my understanding that the Charter Committee can make RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGE to the Council, but it is ultimately up to the Council to accept or reject those changes and to allow the people to vote on those changes. Is that not so? I thought there was a roadblock between the Charter Committee recommending changes and the changes being placed on the ballot for the people's approval. That roadblock would be Council. ???? Please advise.]]>
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