Middletown Forum : Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" Tue, 06 Oct 2026 16:40:18 +0000 Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:45:32 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1090 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : Mr. Alien: While we await your... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5786&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5786 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 1090
Posted: Apr 19 2009 at 12:45am

Mr. Alien:

While we await your reply with evidence of the identity of the "other" group, I would like to repost a portion of an item I Posted on 13 Mar 2009 at 6:13am on this forum under the thread:   Forum Home > Middletown Community > Middletown News, Info and Happenings > Topic: State Of The City Address-Upbeat/Realistic: 
 
I copied the following DIRECTLY from the MINUTES of the December 6, 2006 City Council meeting (here is the link: (http://www.ci.middletown.oh.us/docs/council/12122006_m.pdf ):
 
On Page one, under "City Council Interviews", there was the following heading:

"City Council members asked predetermined questions that were mailed to the candidates in advance of the interviews. Each candidate answered the following questions:"

The last question on that page was:
 

"●The business community hopes that the Middletown City Council will continue to give top priority to and maintain the momentum for economic development through its CIC, Middletown Moving Forward.

How will you support keeping the economic development strategy, Middletown Moving Forward, in place and with high priority?"

This was a question that the council and city manager at that time (which included many members of "Middletown MOVING Forward", CIC) decided to asked every single candidate being interviewed for an APPOINTMENT by that body to fill an empty council seat.
 
Doesn't this sound very much like an attempt to find someone to match the stated goals of "MOVING Middletown Forward", if indeed we do happen to find that they are one and the same?
]]> Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:45:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5786&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5786 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : 2000+ wrote:Thank you Mr. P... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5775&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5775 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 1090
Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 5:40pm

Originally posted by 2000+ 2000+ wrote:

Thank you Mr. P - but can you tell me where this document originally came from and can I get a copy from whatever source you used?
2000+:
I absolutely can--but unfortunatly, right now I will not.
 
All of Middletown will be shocked when that information is disclosed, but if I do so now, some "big fish" may escape.  We are continuing to try to tie down everyone involved, and we can't understand why City Hall isn't interested in clearing this up, can you?
 
I assure you that the source is credible, the document is genuine, and all that remains is to identify the rest of those behind "Middletown Moving Forward"...oops...I mean "MOVING Middletown Forward".  (Sorry, pelase excuse me, but it is just so easy to mix up those two names!)
 
Anyone having information would be wise to come forward now.
 
I would be especially grateful for any help that Alien could give us.
]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:40:31 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5775&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5775 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : Thank you Mr. P - but can you... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5772&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5772 Author: 2000+
Subject: 1090
Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 4:06pm

Thank you Mr. P - but can you tell me where this document originally came from and can I get a copy from whatever source you used?

]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:06:42 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5772&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5772 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : 2000+ wrote:Can someone tell... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5771&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5771 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 3:49pm

Originally posted by 2000+ 2000+ wrote:

Can someone tell us where to find the original document that proclaimed that MMF is procuring political candidates to further their agenda? What facility can we go to and retrieve these hard-copy documents?
2000+: Go to this thread (also in the "City Council" category):
 
MMF--Actual scan of "the document"
By Mike_Presta, 18 Mar 2009 at 8:22pm
]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:49:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5771&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5771 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : 2000+ The only other thing I found... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5769&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5769 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 3:37pm

2000+ The only other thing I found that mentions Moving Middletown Forward was an old blog from the Dayton Daily News from Ed Richter titled " What's In A Name" dated 3/24/09. Mike had responded a couple of times to Richter's blog and asked Richter where this info. came from. No response from Richter apparently. Bet Richter knows who's connected with this group, but he ain't about to tell us as he wants to protect his sources. ?????]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5769&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5769 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : Thanks VietVet- but don't... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5768&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5768 Author: 2000+
Subject: 1090
Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 3:17pm

Thanks VietVet -  but don't we need more than just posts on a blog? Aren't there tangible documents somewhere that states the agenda of MMF? If not, then where did this information come from?]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:17:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5768&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5768 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : 2000+ This all started with a... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5767&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5767 Author: VietVet
Subject: 1090
Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 2:57pm

2000+ This all started with a post by Impala SS on 11 March 09 at 2:29PM. The post is located in the Middletown Info and Happenings section under the topic- " State of the City Address- Upbeat and Realistic" posted by me. Impala SS wanted some feedback on what this group was all about. Pacman cleaned it up on his post.]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:57:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5767&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5767 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : Alien: Can you or Ms. Gilleland... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5766&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5766 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 1090
Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 2:42pm

Alien:
Can you or Ms. Gilleland explain who comprises this "other organization"?
 
They are using a name so very similar to the name of the "Community Improvement Corporation" that one would think that the city, and especially members of the board of directors of the CIC would be very eager to root them out and take them to task.
 
You seem to be knowledgeable on the subject and interested in clearing up the matter.  Who IS this "other organization"???
 
Rather than coming here and anonymously telling us that we are wrong, without telling who this "other organization" is, why not find the facts, put them on the table, and then we can all move on to other things.
 
Until this is cleared up, we have a civic duty NOT to let it go away.  Surely, as a good citizen, you understand that, don't you?
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:42:54 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5766&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5766 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : Well alien--YES, I see this response... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5764&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5764 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 1090
Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 12:56pm

Well alien--YES, I see this response as a smoke screen. Hiowever I hardly view this(these) organization(s) as clandestine.

We will see how this issue unfolds, as it has hardly gone away. Actually certainly should come into play increasingly as new candidates emerge and we get get closer to election time. It will probably be VERY interesting.
]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:56:57 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5764&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5764 Opinion regarding "Middletown Moving Forward" : Can someone tell us where to find... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5762&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5762 Author: 2000+
Subject: 1090
Posted: Apr 17 2009 at 12:12pm

Can someone tell us where to find the original document that proclaimed that MMF is procuring political candidates to further their agenda? What facility can we go to and retrieve these hard-copy documents? ]]> Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:12:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1090&PID=5762&title=opinion-regarding-middletown-moving-forward#5762