Middletown Forum : The Vault At Middletown Cemetery http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Manager : The Vault At Middletown Cemetery Tue, 06 Oct 2026 21:05:08 +0000 Thu, 14 May 2009 07:48:04 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1237 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : May 14, 2009Ms GillelandI have... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6411&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6411 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 1237
Posted: May 14 2009 at 7:48am

May 14, 2009

Ms Gilleland
I have just finished reading your May 10, 2009 City Update concerning your meeting with Fred Wehr and Dan Diver about the upkeep of the Middletown Cemetery.
Every year for the past 5 years I have sent a Middletown Cemetery Work List like the one below to Ginger Smith, Mari Lynn Thurber and Dave Duritsch concerning the needs of the cemetery. 
For the City to now act like they have not been made aware or informed of the problems at the cemetery is an untruthful statement to say the least.
The upkeep of the cemetery isn't a few days work once a year. The flower beds need to watered and weeded all during the growing season. The new trees need to be watered all during the season, a job the City will not do at the cemetery either. The poison ivy and small trees need to be removed all during the season. I spent about 20 hours a week for the past five years cleaning and clearing the cemetery to get it to the point you see today.
It is clear that the City still does not want to be responsible for the care of this cemetery. 
Where are the CDBG funds that were promised to me for the repair of the Vault if I took care of all the other problems at the cemetery? To say that these funds are not available to restore the Vault is also an untruthful statement...you simply do not want to make them available.
Where is the Middletown Cemetery Perpetual Care Fund? 
I lived up to my end of the bargain and then some... 
Vivian Moon

Middletown Cemetery Work List 2009
February 2, 2009

APRIL
Need City's immediate attention in spring : Spray Vault for active termite problem around wooden door area.
Cut down any dead trees…CITY
Repair South Fence…CITY
Repair West Fence...CITY
Remove all trash, twigs and branches from cemetery
Remove all flowers from tombstones before first mow
Rake all leaves and trash from fence lines.
Preen all planting beds
Walk cemetery and fill any groundhog holes and plant grass
Walk cemetery and place all tombstones back on footers
Cut any small trees or stumps away from tombstones
Edge all planting beds
Contact CSX, Cohen Bros and Denny Lumber Co…CITY...Mary Jane Adams
MOWERS…Cemetery must be perfect between Mother’s Day and Father’s Day
 
MAY
All graves must be string trimmed before Mother’s Day…MOWERS
Start setting and repairing FEMA damaged tombstones…Jerry Richards
Cover the Doty Rose Garden before the City sprays the driveways
Spray all fence lines….CITY
Plant any new trees
Weed and feed all planting beds
Plant annual flowers
Mulch all planting areas
Rake leaves and trash on outside Richmond Street fence line.
Power wash front driveway
Edge front sidewalk and sweep
Place all Veterans Flags on graves
Replace Flags on Flag Pole before Memorial Day

JUNE - JULY
Check Richmond Street fence line and spray if needed
Finish cutting down all overgrown shrubs in East Addition area and spray

AUGUST - SEPTEMBER
Complete all FEMA tombstone work…Jerry Richards
Photograph all FEMA tombstone work and send copies to Pam Banks at City..VCM
Move and plant new Iris Beds

]]> Thu, 14 May 2009 07:48:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6411&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6411 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : Taken from a weekly update to... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6408&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6408 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 1237
Posted: May 14 2009 at 5:22am

Taken from a weekly update to City Council from the City Manager sent May 10, 2009.
Pioneer Cemetery
We are still getting estimates for work at the vault that can be done for $22,000.  That is the upper end of the budget, with $11,000 coming from the very generous community foundation and $11,000 potentially coming from the city.  It does not appear that any other group in the community is interested in funding renovation work.   If we are not able to make significant improvements to the vault with the $22,000, then we will demolish the structure. 
Staff and I met last week with Fred Wehr and one of his Board Members of Woodside Cemetery to discuss cemetery maintenance.  We spend about $10-15,000 per year on maintenance (mowing and trimming mostly) for the 12 acre Pioneer Cemetery; this figure is very low.  We will be continuing conversations with Mr. Wehr after Memorial Day on ways that we can improve cemetery maintenance, however, given our current budget situation, I do not anticipate increasing the level of funding for maintenance.

The City spends $500 per mow or $10,000 a year for mowing and trimming the cemetery. They mow 20 timmes per year...for the past 5 years PERIOD!
They have now called a tree trimmer and he is now over at the cemetery cutting down all the dead trees and dead limbs from all the trees.
The question is "Where is the CDBG fund that were promised for the restoration of the Vault"?  

]]> Thu, 14 May 2009 05:22:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6408&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6408 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : I really think forbes was wrong... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6405&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6405 Author: Impala SS
Subject: 1237
Posted: May 13 2009 at 10:35pm

I really think forbes was wrong in saying Middletown is dieing, it is dead done by the so called movers and shakers with there stupid ideas. People like auntie Ann and king Marty are very dangerous people. Oh dont leave out city council.]]> Wed, 13 May 2009 22:35:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6405&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6405 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : Mike>>>> You can... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6404&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6404 Author: Impala SS
Subject: 1237
Posted: May 13 2009 at 10:24pm

Mike>>>>   You can bet if it was the golf course or south Main st. or down town KING Marty would tell Queen Judy to find the money. I would bet my life on that one.]]> Wed, 13 May 2009 22:24:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6404&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6404 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : I second the kudos to Vivian!!! But,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6398&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6398 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 1237
Posted: May 13 2009 at 5:52pm

I second the kudos to Vivian!!!
 
But, FIE, city hall, a pox on you for the disrespect that you show!!!
]]> Wed, 13 May 2009 17:52:40 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6398&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6398 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : Kudos to Vivian Moon for her respect... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6395&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6395 Author: John Beagle
Subject: 1237
Posted: May 13 2009 at 3:29pm

Kudos to Vivian Moon for her respect to those who have gone before us.

You are to be commended for moving council on this very important issue. It shows that we are respectful of our forefathers and foremothers.
]]> Wed, 13 May 2009 15:29:30 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6395&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6395 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : Taken from a weekly update to... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6388&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6388 Author: Mogwa
Subject: 1237
Posted: May 13 2009 at 2:43pm

Taken from a weekly update to City Council from the City Manager sent May 10, 2009.

Pioneer Cemetery

We are still getting estimates for work at the vault that can be done for $22,000.  That is the upper end of the budget, with $11,000 coming from the very generous community foundation and $11,000 potentially coming from the city.  It does not appear that any other group in the community is interested in funding renovation work.   If we are not able to make significant improvements to the vault with the $22,000, then we will demolish the structure. 

Staff and I met last week with Fred Wehr and one of his Board Members of Woodside Cemetery to discuss cemetery maintenance.  We spend about $10-15,000 per year on maintenance (mowing and trimming mostly) for the 12 acre Pioneer Cemetery; this figure is very low.  We will be continuing conversations with Mr. Wehr after Memorial Day on ways that we can improve cemetery maintenance, however, given our current budget situation, I do not anticipate increasing the level of funding for maintenance

]]> Wed, 13 May 2009 14:43:16 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6388&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6388 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : Mrs. Moon - You might... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6028&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6028 Author: Perplexed
Subject: 1237
Posted: Apr 28 2009 at 10:41am

Mrs. Moon -
 
You might find it interesting that Queen Judy recently found upwards of $30,000 in HUD funds lying around to finance an upcoming home makeover project in the south end of Ward 2 in Middletown.  Maybe she'll magically discover other unused HUD funds totalling $60,000 for the Pioneer Cemetery restoration too?  And, by the way, this is not HUD stimulus money or the pending FY 2009 CDBG allocation as well.
]]> Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:41:47 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=6028&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#6028 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : She will not give up that money... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=5948&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#5948 Author: makeadifference
Subject: 1237
Posted: Apr 24 2009 at 7:09am

She will not give up that money for something that she does not feel is worth it. She wants to use as much money as she can for demolishin.The only reason she is giving you 11k, is because that is what it would cost to demolish it.  I was raised that you are to show respect for the deceased.  Obviously we have do not have city officials with  basic values and respect.  Someone needs to take her to the Miltonville Cemetary. You can not clean up a city by destroying the heritage.  Someone needs to come up with a test on the history of Middletown and see if she could pass it.  I bet she would not have a passing grade.]]> Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:09:44 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=5948&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#5948 The Vault At Middletown Cemetery : Ohio State Law clearly state that... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=5933&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#5933 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 1237
Posted: Apr 23 2009 at 7:16pm

Ohio State Law clearly state that they MUST take care of the cemetery. The funds Mr. Kohler promised me 5 years ago were CDBG historic funds. The money to repair the vault was never going to come from General Funds as Ms Gilleland keeps repeating. They have $800,000 of CDBG money....so why won't she give me the funds as promised?....what are they going to use this money for?.....more pretty things for downtown town & Main Street?
]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:16:02 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1237&PID=5933&title=the-vault-at-middletown-cemetery#5933