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   <title>What a difference... : Maybe we kick in a few bucks and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 7:13pm<br /><br />Maybe we kick in a few bucks and take out an ad on the MJ website....ah maybe on the opinion and blog page.<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" />]]>
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   <title>What a difference... :    Jonathan Haller wrote:I have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 6:10pm<br /><br /><SPAN lang=EN><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jonathan Haller" alt="Originally posted by Jonathan Haller" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jonathan Haller wrote:</strong><br /><br />I have to say, you guys are opening my eyes to many things I had no idea about. You just don't find good discussions about Middletown elsewhere. (If they do exist, they are hard to find since there is so much BS on other forums).</td></tr></table> Mr. Haller: Thank you!!!</P><P>You are correct. When we tried to have similar discussions on other web sites, either they were shut down or we were not allowed to post.</P><P>Other forums allow “good news” and propaganda ONLY! </P><P>If one wants to clean or paint or polish, there are plenty of places where one can go to be told what to do and how to do it and that’s a good thing. But does anyone really believe that a fresh coat of paint and some lipstick will create a new Middletown? Are “style” and “symbolism” really the things that landed our fair city at #1 on the Forbes’ List of fastest dying Cities (under 100,00 pop.)?</P><P>In order to SOLVE our problems we first have to admit that we have some, then identify those problems, determine what caused them, solve them, and put measures in place to assure that they do not recur! Middletown’s city hall wants to hear none of this.</P><P>MiddletownUSA’s Forum is becoming “THE” place for the free and open discussions necessary if there is to be any hope of stopping the decline of our city.</P><P>We true “Middletonians” (both native and newcomer) thank you for that!</P><P>And we wonder what can be done to increase readership. Other than word-of-mouth (or, in today’s world, perhaps it is “word-of-web”) how is one able to learn of this site? As you commented above regarding other sites, this site is also “hard to find”!</P></SPAN>]]>
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   <title>What a difference... : A close friend of mine tells me...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=289">Go Buckeyes!</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 10:16am<br /><br />A close friend of mine tells me that the local print media knows all about the abuses of HUD funds.&nbsp; For whatever reasons he refuses to print anything.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Go Bucks!</DIV>]]>
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   <title>What a difference... : I have to say, you guys are opening...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=106">Middletown News</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 9:46am<br /><br />I have to say, you guys are opening my eyes to many things I had no idea about. You just don't find good discussions about Middletown elseware. (If they do exist, they are hard to find since there is so much BS on other forums). <br /><br />Thanks for keeping the community informed.]]>
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   <title>What a difference... : Mr. Kidd -  Keep up the good...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=289">Go Buckeyes!</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 9:31am<br /><br />Mr. Kidd -<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Keep up the good fight.&nbsp; I'm told that the people on the inside are fearful of people like you, Mike, Paul, Viet Vet, Tom, Vivian, etc.&nbsp; Hold the stinky bureaucrats feet to the fire!&nbsp; Good government can return to our city.&nbsp; Your efforts are not in vain.&nbsp; Thank you!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Go Bucks!</DIV>]]>
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   <title>What a difference... : NickAnd then we have the Middletown...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 9:27am<br /><br /><P =Ms&#111;normal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Nick<BR>And then we have the Middletown Cemetery Perpetual Care Fund that the City can’t seems to find. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>However I bet they will find it for the State of </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:State><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Ohio</SPAN></st1:place></st1:State></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><FONT size=3>. <BR><FONT color=#ff0000>Ms. Gilleland &amp; City Council, please tell us where these funds can be found?<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>]]>
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   <title>What a difference... : GO VIVIAN You and others (Perplexed)...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=290">Nick_Kidd</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 9:00am<br /><br />GO VIVIAN<DIV>You and others (Perplexed) have&nbsp;discovered the missing CDBG money. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The millions of dollars in the auto and gas fund plus&nbsp;1 mill of our property tax that can only be used for street repair, disappear every year. Even the street repairs for this year&nbsp;are paid for with stimulus dollars, not out of the auto and gas fund. Thirty or thirty-five years ago we started paying more for sewers than we did for water. This started out as a ten year $75 million project. Today the sewers have not been separated and the city told the EPA that they did not have the money to separate them. EPA will soon force the city to do the job and the city will put a $50 to $80 monthly charge on everyone's water bill to pay for it. They will blame the EPA for this charge instead of being honest a admitting that at least $7.5 million per year (and&nbsp;after all the increases about $30 million)&nbsp;are missing. How do you think council keeps hiring and giving raises when everyone else is cutting jobs and pay?&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>What a difference... : It sure sounds like the Queen...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=289">Go Buckeyes!</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 6:33am<br /><br /><FONT size=5>It sure sounds like the Queen of Middletown&nbsp;and her bureaucrat subjects have abolished true citizen participation for HUD projects.&nbsp; It will be interesting to see the cast of characters that will be hand-picked by her and the power brokers to replace&nbsp;the former HUD Consolidated Planning Committee.&nbsp;&nbsp;After all, city staff and use of HUD money is monitored by the City Manager and City Council and HUD who visits here every umpteen&nbsp;years??????</FONT><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" /><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" /><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" /><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>Go Bucks!</FONT></DIV>]]>
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   <title>What a difference... : Siderjohn&amp;#034;We must starve...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 6:18am<br /><br /><DIV>Siderjohn<BR>"We must starve them financially until the budget $$ is laid out clearly and openly prioritized."<BR><BR><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Spider<BR>Over the years these CDBG FUNDS have been used as a WISH LIST not a NEED LIST and were under the total control of Mr. Kohler and special friends.&nbsp;If Mr. Kohler spends half a million dollars on a corner downtown it's for the good of the comminity and if I ask for money to fix the vault...I will be putting poor people on the streets? How can that be since it's the same money and fund? They have been using these CDBG funds for their own pet projects.<BR><FONT color=#ff0000>SPIDER, THEY WILL NEVER LET US HAVE A VOICE IN HOW ALL THIS&nbsp;CDBG FUNDS ARE SPENT IN THIS CITY....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>]]>
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   <title>What a difference... :  Maybe Cincinnati&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s mayor will...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=289">Go Buckeyes!</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;21&nbsp;2009 at 6:03am<br /><br /><!--COMM&#079;N Template --><!--BYLINE--><!--ORG LINE --><!--RELATED  PODCASTS --><!--RELATED   --><!----- COMPILATI&#079;NS OF PARTS BELOW ----><!--D&#079;NT DELETE  LOCAL  --><H2><a href="http://www.middletownjournal.com/blogs/c&#111;ntent/shared-gen/blogs/dayt&#111;n/middletownnews/entries/2009/05/20/maybe_cincinnatis_mayor_will_h.html" target="_blank"><strong><U><FONT color=#810081 size=5>Maybe Cincinnati’s mayor will have better luck in Vegas</FONT></U></strong></A>....than Judy and Larry did last year???</H2><P =byline>By <a href="http://www.middletownjournal.com/blogs/c&#111;ntent/shared-gen/blogs/dayt&#111;n/middletownnews/entries/2009/05/20/maybe_cincinnatis_mayor_will_h.html#postcomment" target="_blank"><U>Ed Richter </U></A>| Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 07:14 PM </P><P>According to media reports, Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory was in Las Vegas this week at the International Council of Shopping Centers convention, one of the largest gathering of retailers and developers in the world.</P><P>Mallory was there to talk with developers about The Banks project. Hopefully he’ll have better luck than a group of Middletown city and business officials did a year ago when they met with developers and retailers about coming to the city as well as to the Towne Mall.</P><P>Granted the economy experienced the huge downturn later in the 2008, but a year later, no real movement has been happening at Towne Mall.</P><P>While there is some traffic there thanks to a few stores that are still left, the mall is still struggling. Hopefully if the economy picks up, the contacts made by the city last May will pay off with new stores and development at the Towne Mall.</P><P>Stay tuned.</P>]]>
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