Middletown Forum : Red Light Camera in Operation http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Manager : Red Light Camera in Operation Mon, 05 Oct 2026 18:48:38 +0000 Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:46:18 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1354 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Red Light Camera in Operation : I still don't understand... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28753&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28753 Author: viper771
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 29 2011 at 9:46pm

I still don't understand the problem. If people don't speed or run red lights, then they won't get a ticket. It could be a lot worse too!! When I lived in Germany, they had speed cameras set up in mobile vans all over the place or had them hidden in trees. They even had them built into the guardrails on the autobahn so you couldn't see them. But, at least the fines were more reasonable than in the US. My wife had a fine mailed to her, with her picture of her in her car doing 40 kph in a 30 kph zone. I think the fine was around 15 Euro (about 20 USD)...which wasn't too bad. ]]> Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:46:18 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28753&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28753 Red Light Camera in Operation : Those pop up from time to time... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28749&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28749 Author: middletownscouter
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 29 2011 at 3:17pm

Those pop up from time to time in places where people tend to speed. I've also seen the bigger towed ones on Manchester heading towards Dixie Highway and other areas.]]> Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:17:15 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28749&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28749 Red Light Camera in Operation : Spotted this new creature on westbound... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28746&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28746 Author: 409
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 29 2011 at 2:22pm

Spotted this new creature on westbound Grand Ave. between Dorset & Kensington....
 
]]> Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:22:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28746&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28746 Red Light Camera in Operation : Video evidence stands up pretty... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28676&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28676 Author: John Beagle
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 26 2011 at 2:16pm

Video evidence stands up pretty well in court. But it is an interesting idea to test the legality of the fine.

Originally posted by middletownscouter middletownscouter wrote:

They now send you a link to an online video of the vehicle running the red light in addition to the still photos, so the proof is there.
]]> Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:16:08 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28676&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28676 Red Light Camera in Operation : They now send you a link to an... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28675&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28675 Author: middletownscouter
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 26 2011 at 12:37pm

They now send you a link to an online video of the vehicle running the red light in addition to the still photos, so the proof is there.]]> Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:37:23 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28675&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28675 Red Light Camera in Operation : SWAT samething happen to me.I... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28668&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28668 Author: LMAO
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 25 2011 at 8:38pm

SWAT samething happen to me.I was really praying hard to be sent a ticket cos I was wanting  so bad to go to City Hall and telll them to prove it.]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:38:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28668&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28668 Red Light Camera in Operation : I have driven past the white line... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28663&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28663 Author: ground swat
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 25 2011 at 3:37pm

I have driven past the white line at a intersection while stopping, seen the flash but have not gotten a ticket, yet. Also taken a right turn off of 4 onto 14th by woodside  not stopping first because I saw No on coming traffic. The flash went off but again No ticket.  Did learn my lesson and think a little more before making quick turns.]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:37:45 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28663&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28663 Red Light Camera in Operation : You only get a ticket if you... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28662&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28662 Author: viper771
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 25 2011 at 3:21pm

You only get a ticket if you run a red light right?]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:21:15 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28662&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28662 Red Light Camera in Operation : Well......imagine this.....today's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28654&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28654 Author: VietVet
Subject: 1354
Posted: Jul 25 2011 at 7:07am

Well......imagine this.....today's Midd. Journal article....

THOUGHT THE CAMERAS WERE FOR SAFETY FIRST WITH THE ADDED BENEFIT OF REVENUE.....THE CITY SURE LIKES COUNTING THEIR TRAFFIC LIGHT REVENUE, DON'T THEY?

Red light cams netted $200K in 2010

MIDDLETOWN —Red light cameras spark controversy for generating revenue for cities, but police officials say they’re in place to save lives.

Middletown has nine red light cameras meant to catch motorists who disregard the traffic signals. Year to date, violations are down by about 200, totaling 1,906 tickets, according to the police department.

Those tickets have generated $70,559 so far — $31,751.55 of which has gone to pay Redflex Traffic Systems which operates the cameras for Middletown, according to the city finance department.

With an estimated $12 million budget for 2011, red light camera revenue arguably are but a drop in the police budget. Since the cameras were first installed in 2005, Maj. Mark Hoffman said they’ve been meant to increase safety at some of Middletown’s most dangerous intersections.

IS HOFFMAN AND OTHER POLICE OFFICIALS THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE STILL CLINGING TO THE OLD "IT'S FOR SAFETY AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE" SLOGAN?

Where cameras are placed is always in flux. Several have been discontinued — such as the camera at Manchester Road and Breiel Boulevard — because accident activity decreased, Hoffman said.

SHOULD READ.....BECAUSE REVENUE DECREASED    IF THE CAMERAS WERE PLACED AT THESE INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE OF THE HIGH RISK OF ACCIDENT, WHY ARE THEY NOT STILL BEING MONITORED? MUST HAVE BEEN A REASON TO PUT 'EM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. WHY ARE YOU MOVING THEM?.....BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GENERATING AS MUCH REVENUE AS BEFORE. THE HIGH RISK STILL REMAINS IF THE ROAD SPEED IS STILL HIGH AND THE QUICKNESS OF THE RED-YELLOW-GREEN LIGHT SEQUENCE HASN'T BEEN CHANGED TO ALLOW LONGER YELLOW LIGHTS TO CLEAR THE INTERSECTION.

A new national study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found that the rate of fatal red light crashes has decreased in the 62 largest cities across the country. However, the biggest drops came in cities that have red light cameras: 35 percent fewer crashes compared with 14 percent in cities without cameras. Only 14 of the cities polled had red light cameras, according to the study.

14 CITIES WITH RED LIGHT CAMERAS POLLED OUT OF A TOTAL OF 62 OF THE LARGEST CITIES.....HARDLY A LARGE ENOUGH BASE TO ESTABLISH DATA. IF THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS WERE SUCH A GOOD IDEA (BE IT REVENUE GENERATION OR FOR "SAFETY"), WOULDN'T THERE BE MORE THAN 14 ENJOYING THIS NEW FAD?

Residents concerned about their rights regarding the tickets can still receive their day in court just like they would for any other crime, Hoffman said.

YEAH RIGHT HOFFMAN. AND HOW DO YOU THINK THAT WILL GO FOR THE PERSON IN COURT, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE? ]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:07:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=28654&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#28654 Red Light Camera in Operation : They use to have about 4 on Breiel... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=6772&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#6772 Author: Pacman
Subject: 1354
Posted: May 28 2009 at 7:46am

They use to have about 4 on Breiel or East of Breiel if I remember correctly.  I have seen none now, which is fine with me, I rarely travel west of Breiel.]]> Thu, 28 May 2009 07:46:44 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1354&PID=6772&title=red-light-camera-in-operation#6772