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Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 05 2009 at 2:55pm

Are we donw with this topic?]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:55:21 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9430&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9430 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : Mike_Presta wrote: thoroughman... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9403&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9403 Author: alldaywatching
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 05 2009 at 7:35am

Originally posted by Mike_Presta Mike_Presta wrote:

Originally posted by thoroughman thoroughman wrote:


I do understand where you are coming from.  However, I do stand firm in my convictions. Part of the problem in politics is people who pretend and lie about who they are. I want to be open about where I stand. That way you know who you are voting for.

Blessings, Robert
I also do understand where you are coming from, Sir.  And I admire a man who stands by his convictions.
 
However, another problem in politics (especially in Middletown) is that far too many politicians allow their personal preferences to trump what may be best for their constituents.  One may honestly and deeply believe that yellow and pink polka dots on a purple background are the very most attractive color scheme on earth.  That would not make it right to try to force everyone to paint their homes in that manner, no matter how strongly they hold that belief. 
 
There are already too many codes, ordinances, laws and rules, and too many contracts have been let or at least influenced by PERSONAL PREFERENCE in Middletown.  Such actions have harmed our city and its ecomomy irrepairably.
 
Not all belief systems are the same, and others hold their faith as strongly as you hold yours.  Does that give them the right to try to force their values on you?  I think not!!!  Please consider the hypothetical situation that five or six atheists landed on city council.  They might all sincerely believe that there are too many churches in town on what could be prime commercial land.  Do you think that they should be allowed to follow their consciences and keep churches out of town?  I would think that they have no more right to do that, than they would have the right to keep legal businesses that happen to sell alcohol or gambling opportunities out of town.
 
Respectfully,
Mike Presta
well said !   I couldnt agree more ]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:35:23 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9403&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9403 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : thoroughman wrote:I do understand... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9391&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9391 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 05 2009 at 1:21am

Originally posted by thoroughman thoroughman wrote:


I do understand where you are coming from.  However, I do stand firm in my convictions. Part of the problem in politics is people who pretend and lie about who they are. I want to be open about where I stand. That way you know who you are voting for.

Blessings, Robert
I also do understand where you are coming from, Sir.  And I admire a man who stands by his convictions.
 
However, another problem in politics (especially in Middletown) is that far too many politicians allow their personal preferences to trump what may be best for their constituents.  One may honestly and deeply believe that yellow and pink polka dots on a purple background are the very most attractive color scheme on earth.  That would not make it right to try to force everyone to paint their homes in that manner, no matter how strongly they hold that belief. 
 
There are already too many codes, ordinances, laws and rules, and too many contracts have been let or at least influenced by PERSONAL PREFERENCE in Middletown.  Such actions have harmed our city and its ecomomy irrepairably.
 
Not all belief systems are the same, and others hold their faith as strongly as you hold yours.  Does that give them the right to try to force their values on you?  I think not!!!  Please consider the hypothetical situation that five or six atheists landed on city council.  They might all sincerely believe that there are too many churches in town on what could be prime commercial land.  Do you think that they should be allowed to follow their consciences and keep churches out of town?  I would think that they have no more right to do that, than they would have the right to keep legal businesses that happen to sell alcohol or gambling opportunities out of town.
 
Respectfully,
Mike Presta
]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:21:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9391&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9391 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : I attempted to Quote you above,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9387&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9387 Author: thoroughman
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 05 2009 at 12:33am

I attempted to Quote you above, but it did not post correctly. I need to get some sleep.
Good Night.
]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:33:26 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9387&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9387 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : If I learned my history correctly,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9386&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9386 Author: thoroughman
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 05 2009 at 12:30am

 
If I learned my history correctly, one of the main reasons the early settlers came to America was for freedom of conscience.
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I do understand where you are coming from.  However, I do stand firm in my convictions. Part of the problem in politics is people who pretend and lie about who they are. I want to be open about where I stand. That way you know who you are voting for.

Blessings, Robert
]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:30:33 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9386&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9386 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : thoroughman wrote: I am only... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9384&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9384 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 04 2009 at 11:43pm

Originally posted by thoroughman thoroughman wrote:

I am only asking for votes, if you agree. I understand those who don't , and I respect your thoughts. That is what America is all about, freedom to chose.
 
God Bless!
Robert
With all due respect, Sir, it sounds as if you want to make the decision whether or not to gamble for all of us.  I would prefer to allow everyone to have the freedom to make that choice for themselves. 
 
That is what America is all about, freedom to chose. 
 
Besides, do you really think that forcing folks to drive one or two exits north or south on I-75 will prevent all of the irresponsible people that you've described from acting irresponsibly?
 
If I learned my history correctly, one of the main reasons the early settlers came to America was for freedom of conscience.
]]> Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:43:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9384&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9384 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : Sounds like we should punish everyone... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9383&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9383 Author: rngrmed
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 04 2009 at 11:36pm

Sounds like we should punish everyone because a few make bad decisions.  I will buy the occassional scratch off, lottery ticket or take a trip to the boats.   We've had scratch off for a couple decades now.  River Downs and Lebanon Raceways are well within driving distance.  Even the boats are well within driving distance.  Was there an increase in foreclosures when they opened?  How about when the lottery started?  I think gambling/ the lottery are just scapegoats.  I'm sure the people that lose their houses or have to put their kids in foster homes have other social issues that need to be addressed that are far more important that gambling.  ]]> Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:36:03 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9383&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9383 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : Thanks for the post, I do understand... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9381&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9381 Author: thoroughman
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 04 2009 at 11:14pm

Thanks for the post, I do understand your thoughts. Know that my thought is that we need to make sure we are bringing jobs that will last and help improve the overall appeal to the city. We must look long term to see what the jobs will do for our home. Also, why is it a state will push to sell loto tickets claiming to bring all this money in. When in truth it takes money from people who may not have it to spend. Also, we pump millions into providing gambling addiction counseling. Not to mention foster homes to kids who have broken homes due to divorce and or addictions. Now I ask what have we really gained? I can recall memories of a parent spending our last few dollors on loto scratch offs. Then when no money was won. We were without food and money.
I know we need jobs, but we must make sure we reach for the good of all.
I am only asking for votes, if you agree. I understand those who don't , and I respect your thoughts. That is what America is all about, freedom to chose.
 
God Bless!
Robert
]]> Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:14:42 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9381&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9381 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : Thank you for the blessing. It... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9380&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9380 Author: thoroughman
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 04 2009 at 11:04pm

Thank you for the blessing. It is my hope to bring a voice to the people of this city.

We need to make our voice heard.
 
RObert
]]> Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:04:10 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9380&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9380 Ward 4 Candidate Withdrawals From Race : Pastor Thoroughman - I sincerely... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1588&PID=9372&title=ward-4-candidate-withdrawals-from-race#9372 Author: Ima B. Lever
Subject: 1588
Posted: Aug 04 2009 at 8:00pm

Pastor Thoroughman -
 
I sincerely ask you to please pray us citizens of Middletown who have a minimal voice in municipal affairs.  We certainly are in need of God's intervention.
 
God Bless You and Yours.
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