Middletown Forum : Council Housing Meeting http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Council Housing Meeting Tue, 06 Oct 2026 12:07:47 +0000 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:43:31 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1649 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Council Housing Meeting : Mr. Adkins- I fortunately have... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9191&title=council-housing-meeting#9191 Author: accuro
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 31 2009 at 9:43am

Mr. Adkins- I fortunately have not had much interaction with the city of Middletown's criminal division with the exception of a minor traffic violation or two, but I always found you to be extremely fair, balanced, and willing to resolve issues; I therefore was disappointed to see you leave that position. However, by you making such an earnest attempt to participate in this forum demonstrates you have carried that same spirit of cooperation and balance with you to the new position, which is quite commendable. Your response is perfectly normal; you would properly defer legal questions to the person having that responsibility for the city. I can't comment on name calling (as I have no knowledge of what has transpired), but I can state I have always felt both you and the former Springboro prosector, Mr. Sharts, were the most tempered and equitable prosecutors in the area. I would hold anyone with any problem associated with compliance would find Mr. Adkins very fair and reasonable to work with. I state this with the upmost in objectivity and dealings with him previously when he was always responsive, respectful, and polite.  ]]> Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:43:31 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9191&title=council-housing-meeting#9191 Council Housing Meeting : Mr. Adkins: To "quote"... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9188&title=council-housing-meeting#9188 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 31 2009 at 8:54am

Mr. Adkins:
To "quote" just look above and to the right of the message you want quote.  You can either click on "Quote", which will take you immediately to the reply box with the deired message in a box.  You may also accomplish this via a pull-down menu by clicking on "Post options" (also in the upper right hand corner of the message).
]]> Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:54:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9188&title=council-housing-meeting#9188 Council Housing Meeting : My position was part of a restructuring... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9183&title=council-housing-meeting#9183 Author: Doug Adkins
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 31 2009 at 7:50am

My position was part of a restructuring of the City departments last year.  I oversee all housing functions, HUD programs, Section 8, Weatherwax Golf Course, Building Inspection, the Community Center, diversity, Code Enforcement, and the transit (bus) system.

The new prosecutor is just a fill in while Carrie Carpenter is out on maternity leave.  My position came open at the same time she was getting ready to deliver her baby.  It has caused some confusion and disruption of the Prosecutor's Office over the summer.  Carrie is due back mid-August and the Law Dept will make some decisions regarding a new Asst. Prosecutor and things should calm back down and become more routine again.

]]> Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:50:42 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9183&title=council-housing-meeting#9183 Council Housing Meeting : It will take me some time to learn... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9182&title=council-housing-meeting#9182 Author: Doug Adkins
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 31 2009 at 7:44am

It will take me some time to learn the functions including the quote function, so bear with me.  I don't believe it was you who was name calling.
 
As Com. Rev. Dir. I will ALWAYS defer to the Law Director on legal questions regarding the City operations, etc.  I am required to do so.  He would defer to me on Revitalization questions.  I'm not going to put my job in jepoardy by jumping the organizational chain of command.
 
I think your research will show that Council serving as the Housing Board is a common practice nationwide where the City is the governing body and not the county or some regional body.
]]> Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:44:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9182&title=council-housing-meeting#9182 Council Housing Meeting : Mike, I'm new to the forum.... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9181&title=council-housing-meeting#9181 Author: Doug Adkins
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 31 2009 at 7:41am

Mike,
 
I'm new to the forum.  I'll work on learning how to use the various functions including the quote function.  Until then, you'll have to bear with me.  As I remember it, I don't think it was you name calling.  As to defering to the Law Director, my position is required to defer to the Law Director for legal questions concerning the City's operation.  As Com. Rev. Dir. I will ALWAYS defer to the Law Director on legal quesitons. 
 
I think your research will show that I am right on this particular issue.  This Board is no different than Council serving on the Park Board, Golf Advisory Board, etc.  Parma's council is also it Housing Board, and I think you will find this practice is the most common form of Board when the City runs the Housing program and not the County or some regional body.
 
 
]]> Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:41:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9181&title=council-housing-meeting#9181 Council Housing Meeting : Doug Adkins wrote:Generally... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9167&title=council-housing-meeting#9167 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 30 2009 at 8:30pm

Originally posted by Doug Adkins Doug Adkins wrote:

Generally speaking, Council can serve on administrative body's that it creates.   Council created the MPHA in 1978 through legislation at that time.  There is a whole body of municipal law that governs what they can and can't do.  You can't take one section of one statute and take it out of context.  Council is well within its authority.  If you need more information on legal issues, I'm going to defer to the Law Director, who deals with this body of law every day.
Mr. Adkins:  I disagree, and will do more research regarding "legislative only", "no other public office", etc.  However, I am disappointed that you defer to the Law Director when asked for an opinion. 
Originally posted by Doug Adkins Doug Adkins wrote:

There is a tremendous amount of factually incorrect information on this forum.  I wouldn't mind correcting inaccuracies, but over this summer I've been called the property nazi, a member of the mafia, etc.  If people are just going to sling mud and name call, it really doesn't make any sense to waste my time in the trenches.
Mr. Adkins:  Those who have followed this forum (or the past Middletown Journal forums when they were open to be freely posted in) know that I welcome correction when I am in error on FACTS.  One of my goals is to be accurate.  I do hope that you will correct any inaccuracies IN FACT or IN LAW that you see in any of my posts!!!
 
However, I must ask you to QUOTE, and cite the source, where I have ever called YOU a nazi, mafioso, or any similar derogatory term.
 
With me, you will pretty much get what you give, be it civil discourse, heated debate, witty banter, biting satire, or anything else.
]]> Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:30:15 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9167&title=council-housing-meeting#9167 Council Housing Meeting : Mr Adkins - I would like to thank... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9151&title=council-housing-meeting#9151 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 30 2009 at 10:29am

Mr Adkins - I would like to thank you for answering questions on this forum.  I think it is very important for city management to stay in contact with the general public to see what is important to them.  With the economy the way it is right now, it is even more important then what it was a few years ago.  When things get bad, is when people come out of the woodwork and start throwing stones.  ]]> Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:29:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9151&title=council-housing-meeting#9151 Council Housing Meeting : Mr.Adkins--thank you very much... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9147&title=council-housing-meeting#9147 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 30 2009 at 9:26am

Mr.Adkins--thank you very much for taking the time to come here to clarify information,answer ?s and participate in, honestly, the only open ? and answer forum in the community. As you are well aware. Council "is not set up to answer citizens ?s" during Council meetings and the citizens' comments portion(their only opportunity to directly address Council on relavant important topics). Conversations with Council have denigrated to self-centered municipal propaganda fests.
 
Your demeanor and factual clarifications are tremendously helpful in correcting mis-information andhelping to understand your new position(never fully explained to the community). This is a huge breakthrough between citizens and Council/Admin that has been far too long in coming. Hopefully your efforts and opening the door to necessary constructive discussion will go a LONG way towards uniting the citizens and government towards working in unison to solve our many complicated issues.
 
As for being called a few names and mudslinging, don't consider yourself unique or singled out. That unfortunate tactic comes from all sides and targets virtually everyone at some time. Maybe we should all meet downtown in the fortress and share a beer while we agree to disagree(lol).
 
I imagine your time is tight, as your responsibilities are huge.
Still--the discourse here will go a long way towards an open bond with those you serve, and just MAYBE more municipal voices will join in. As dialogue opens and becomes more constructive, I doubt that the name-calling etc. will continue.
 
BTW--not impressed at all with the new prosecutor. Seems more concerned with pleasing Ms.Brandenburg, creating court costs, probation fees while little concern or contact with victims. He is extremely detached from the business community, who needs his involvement more than ever as the local economic situation lingers.
 
Without future expansion of this open, constructive dialogue, the city will continue to lose public confidence and support, which will show dynamically at the ballot box in the future. Don't expect any new tax issues to pass, and any renewals will be hard-pressed to continue. Look for new faces next year also.
 
jmo
]]> Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:26:45 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9147&title=council-housing-meeting#9147 Council Housing Meeting : Viet Vet, I don't control... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9146&title=council-housing-meeting#9146 Author: Doug Adkins
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 30 2009 at 8:35am

Viet Vet,
 
I don't control scheduling, so I can't answer whether the meeting could or would be moved.  I think it totally appropriate to post the meeting minutes online and with those minutes my monthly housing report.  Give me a month or two and I'll work on getting the minutes and the monthly excel report posted on the Com. Rev. portion of the City website.  If you want hard copies of the last couple meetings, I'd be happy to mail them out to you.  If you'd like to send your contact info in an email to me, you can reach me at douga@cityofmiddletown.org.
]]> Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:35:55 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9146&title=council-housing-meeting#9146 Council Housing Meeting : Generally speaking, Council can... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1649&PID=9145&title=council-housing-meeting#9145 Author: Doug Adkins
Subject: 1649
Posted: Jul 30 2009 at 8:13am

Generally speaking, Council can serve on administrative body's that it creates.   Council created the MPHA in 1978 through legislation at that time.  There is a whole body of municipal law that governs what they can and can't do.  You can't take one section of one statute and take it out of context.  Council is well within its authority.  If you need more information on legal issues, I'm going to defer to the Law Director, who deals with this body of law every day.
 
There is a tremendous amount of factually incorrect information on this forum.  I wouldn't mind correcting inaccuracies, but over this summer I've been called the property nazi, a member of the mafia, etc.  If people are just going to sling mud and name call, it really doesn't make any sense to waste my time in the trenches.
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