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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD : Guess who hadamajor role in the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=397">Rail Fan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 4:37pm<br /><br />Guess who had&nbsp;a&nbsp;major role in the creation of those HUD skeletons?&nbsp; Hmmmmmm?&nbsp; Hiding under the skirt of the almighty one must be a little claustrophobic?]]>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD : According to Gilleland he is just...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=358">wasteful</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 4:19pm<br /><br />According to Gilleland he is just wonderful and her righthand man.&nbsp; Probably more likely he knows where the skeletons are buried. <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />]]>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD : Why does Marty Kohler still have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=294">AKBobby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;11&nbsp;2009 at 3:51pm<br /><br />Why does Marty Kohler still have a job? Anyone? Anyone? In the private sector he would have been fired years ago.]]>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD : I was having a conversation the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;31&nbsp;2009 at 4:31am<br /><br /><P =Ms&#111;normal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">I was having a conversation the other day with a young lady that is on Section 8 housing. She said she was looking for housing outside of </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><FONT size=3> because her children were not learning anything in our school system.<BR><SPAN style="COLOR: #3366ff">Well it seems we have found a way to reduce the number of Section 8 vouchers…have the worst school in the area.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD :    Mike_Presta wrote:Plain and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=303">lrisner</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;30&nbsp;2009 at 9:51am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" alt="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mike_Presta wrote:</strong><br /><br /><font size="3">Plain and simple, it<em> sounds</em> like a <strike>con job</strike> ploy of some kind to access taxpayers' funds!!! </font></td></tr></table><br><br>You Bet! Historic properties are eligible for CDBGs, are they not?<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD :    Vivian Moon wrote:Yep, this...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=387">TudorBrown</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;30&nbsp;2009 at 4:27am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Vivian Moon" alt="Originally posted by Vivian Moon" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Vivian Moon wrote:</strong><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">Yep, this score should bring all those high class people with money just flooding into </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">Middletown</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';"> to buy property and place their kiddies into our wonderful school system. <img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs%20Down" /><br>We need a new school board<br style=""><br style=""></span></td></tr></table><br><br>Yep... <br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD : Plain and simple, it sounds like...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;27&nbsp;2009 at 6:33pm<br /><br /><FONT size=3>Plain and simple, it<EM> sounds</EM> like a <STRIKE>con job</STRIKE> ploy of some kind to access taxpayers' funds!!! </FONT>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD : Kohler has been doing what he...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=358">wasteful</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;27&nbsp;2009 at 11:06am<br /><br />Kohler has been doing what he wants for quite a while.&nbsp; We should rename the city to Kohlerville.]]>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD : Wait a minute!  Kohler has &amp;#034;used...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;27&nbsp;2009 at 10:53am<br /><br />Wait a minute!<br /><br />Kohler has "used the 50 year rule for this district"- Isn't there some type of legal rules of engagement that is recognized and defined by the county, state or federal entities when establishing a historical district? OR, can a local yokal official like Kohler just come up with an arbitrary number that defines the "historical age" of something???? There must be legal criteria that this group must follow to get this accomplished.<br /><br />Secondly- your "restrictions on properties" comments- let me get this straight- they want to set up a historical district, but the rules that apply to that historical district-- uhh- don't apply to them???? <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> It would be "self rule" where anything goes. Just "do what you want". What ???? This is illogical. If they want to set up a system that has rules and then not follow the rules, why set up the system at all?? What's the purpose if it's going to end up a free for all? Goofy!]]>
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   <title>Another Ho-Hum Year at MCSD : Vet I will not give another dime...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1813<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Aug&nbsp;27&nbsp;2009 at 9:08am<br /><br /><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><FONT size=3>Vet<DIV>I will not give another dime to the schools until the scores go up...PERIOD.<BR><BR>As for "historic districts"....I have worked on historic&nbsp;homes for 30 years and I thought I understood&nbsp;the rules. However after talking with numerous people involved in this new historic district....I guess I&nbsp;know nothing...and I still don't understand this plan.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There are 3 types of historic districts, local, state and federal. The Highlands&nbsp;is to be a "Local Historic District" <EM>(therefore with the greatest control.)<BR></EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Marty Kohler has used the 50 year rule for this district. In other words if the property is 50 years old it can be declared "historic".&nbsp;(Example: Wright homes built in Chicago) The other&nbsp;examples where this rule has been used is for downtown areas that have been built over numerous decades in many styles. And as Mike would say.....HOWEVER....I have NEVER seen this rule used in&nbsp;a residential area with this range of ages.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Hamilton</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">, </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:State><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Ohio</SPAN></st1:State><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA"> has three historic districts, Rossville, </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">German</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA"> </SPAN><st1:Place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Village</SPAN></st1:place></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA"> and </SPAN><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Dayton Street</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA"> and all of these areas feature homes built before the 1900’s.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">One of the benefits of a historic district is that owners of homes will not have to apply individually to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places and incur the expense associated with this process. How many of these properties would qualify to be on the National Register of Historic Places?<SPAN style="COLOR: black"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;<EM>Very few of these homes would qualify to be placed on the National Regeister...imo<BR></EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Clearly Mr. Kohler has used the broadest&nbsp;interpertation of this rule for this new historic district.&nbsp;(<EM>Just because you have a rule&nbsp;does not mean it is wise to abuse it..imo)</EM></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><EM>&nbsp;<BR></EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was told that these homeowners want to protect their investments, homes and neighborhood. When I asked from what, I was told that they didn't want these large homes to be split up at a later date into apartment units like the Sorg and to insure that the properties would be well maintained. (<EM>Then why not form the Highlands District Association or just declare these large homes historic?)<BR></EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Restrictions on properties<EM>...(Now this is where my 3 little gray cells went tilt..tilt..tilt)</EM>&nbsp; When I asked about historic restriction on these properties I was told that this area would be under "SELF RULE" by members of this district. That items such as a new roof would not need to go before the City Historic Review Committee. That in fact the "Historic rules DIDN'T APPLY to them or their properties...<EM>tilt..tilt..tilt..tilt.<BR></EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bottom line...everyone that I have talked with has a different interpertation<BR>of the "Highlands Historic District" rules..what they are and what they can and can not do with their properties<EM>..tilt..tilt..tilt<BR></EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I think Mr. Kohler needs to&nbsp;go before&nbsp;Council&nbsp;and explain all the rules before this goes before City Council&nbsp;on September 1, 2009.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sooo...if this is the historic rule that Mr Kohler is going to use then all of Middletown can apply<EM>...tilt..tilt..tilt.&nbsp;&nbsp; </EM></DIV></FONT></SPAN>]]>
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