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Middletown Forum : OVI check point tonight http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : News, Info and Happenings outside Middletown : OVI check point tonight Tue, 06 Oct 2026 12:06:53 +0000 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:17:24 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1993 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ OVI check point tonight : Pacman wrote:"People wrongly... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11549&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11549 Author: Hermes
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 1:17pm

Pacman wrote:

"People wrongly and sometimes ignorantly believe cops are your friends, that is NEVER the case."

Hermes have you been drinking this morning. This is an asinine comment.

Pacman - why would you believe otherwise ? It is fine if you have friends that are cops or occasionally have casual conversation with them or whatever but thats not what I'm saying. When you are stopped by police you are in fact the criminal (until proven otherwise) A policeman/woman is not your friend while in the action of their duties. They have one objective during a traffic stop and that is to find you guilty of something or they would have never stopped you. (hence a speeding ticket for example) But during the time the officer is making out the ticket and if your sitting in the cruiser it's fine to make small talk. But anything you say or do they can hang you for it. It's their job. I was even told by an attorney a cop is not your friend because they will watch and listen,it's basically their job. And besides,a friend does not treat you like a criminal and interrogate and intimadate you not that all police use that tactic. So it is best to remain silent because that officer is not your friend !

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:17:24 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11549&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11549 OVI check point tonight : "People wrongly and sometimes... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11547&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11547 Author: Pacman
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 12:39pm

"People wrongly and sometimes ignorantly believe cops are your friends, that is NEVER the case."

Hermes have you been drinking this morning. This is an asinine comment.
]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:39:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11547&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11547 OVI check point tonight : What? "Shouldn't be... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11545&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11545 Author: VietVet
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 12:24pm

What? "Shouldn't be out this late"? Since when did a cop become a citizen's overseer and babysitter? He is insinuating that there is a curfew in place. Would he be asking the 2nd shift factory worker why he was out (and driving home from work) at 2AM when he had to stay over for that 3rd shift worker who called in sick? If there ain't no curfew, what's it to him how late a person is out? Perfect example of a person who has a position of authority and is too immature to handle it. Between trashing the car and the 45 minute intrusion, might have meant a drive to the officers police station to see the chief and voice a complaint. Show that cell phone picture of the interior of the car trashed. Nothing worse than out-of-control authority. This example does not speak well for checkpoints.

Need a search warrant to search your house,but don't need one for the car. Inconsistent isn't it? This is not logical. If he did not need a reason to search your car, why did he ask to search it in the first place? If you had no sayso in stopping him from the search, why did he ask you if he could? Mute point, isn't it? ]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:24:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11545&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11545 OVI check point tonight : sportsnut wrote: Mike_Presta... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11544&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11544 Author: Hermes
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 12:24pm

sportsnut wrote:

Mike_Presta wrote:

randy wrote:

My point is and I hope some ones has an answer...why tell us where the check points are? does this not defeat the point????

Just a guess here, because I certainly don't know, but perhaps they are concentrating on extremely STUPID and UNINFORMED drunk drivers???

Yeah Thurman was RELEASED to a friend only because of who he was. Had it been Joe Blow Public his rear would have been in jail.

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:24:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11544&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11544 OVI check point tonight : llivehereto-thanks for sharing... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11543&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11543 Author: Hermes
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 12:21pm

llivehereto-thanks for sharing your experience in this matter.

I too went through the interrogation process in Kentucky a few years ago at a DUI check point,that is why I am so adamant concerning the topic. When a policeman questions you that is in fact an INTERROGATION, as the law states,"ANYTHING you say or do will be held AGAINST you in a court of law". As I stated above in my previous post "you are GUILTY until proven innocent". Now,while being stopped at the check point you do have rights,you may question the officer as to what is going on,he will no doubt say they are looking for DUI's. He may ask if you have been drinking or had anything to drink,your reply would be no. If he ask any other questions you have the express right to ask if you are free to drive on. You do not have to give any other personal answers. He may then ask you to pull to the side of the road to INTIMADATE you and believe me they will do it. If he ask,and notice here that HE ASK you if he can search your car you give an adamant NO,YOU DO NOT CONSENT TO WARRANTLESS SEARCHES. If he had actual proof of any crime he would not ASK to search you or the car he would just do it,after putting you in handcuffs. The officer may or may not continue with the interrogation and intimadation tactic and tell you to have a nice day or he may push the issue and get really nasty like in my case. (I went to jail)

People wrongly and sometimes ignorantly believe cops are your friends,that is NEVER the case. Cops work for the government on whatever level. Their express job is to find you guilty of something,doesn't matter what. Yes they are human and some are really nice. But never,ever talk to a cop during a traffic stop. He is looking for some way to hang you out to dry and YOU are your own worst enemy if you talk or chatter with a cop. As your Miranda rights states "you have the right to remain silent" so keep your mouth shut.

(disclaimer : I am not an attorney this information was provided to me by an attorney)

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:21:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11543&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11543 OVI check point tonight : Hermes wrote: Pacman wrote:If... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11542&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11542 Author: TudorBrown
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 12:21pm

Hermes wrote:

Pacman wrote:

If you were pulled over for OVI while driving you would get asked the same questions, so what is the difference?

Pacman you sound like my wife.

The point is if they are looking for drunk drivers then why the interrogation for non-drunk drivers ? I'm all for getting drinkers off the roads,what I object to is having roadside interrogation points. And like Randy said why announce it IF your trying to catch someone ?? It's all a part of the police state and tactics that we are living in today so I guess it doesn't matter.

Yep

I find a police officer asking me questions like "where are you headed" "where have you been" extremely offensive...

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:21:29 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11542&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11542 OVI check point tonight : Mike_Presta wrote: randy... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11541&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11541 Author: sportsnut
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 12:16pm

Mike_Presta wrote:

randy wrote:

My point is and I hope some ones has an answer...why tell us where the check points are? does this not defeat the point????

Just a guess here, because I certainly don't know, but perhaps they are concentrating on extremely STUPID and UNINFORMED drunk drivers???

Yeah - This guy!

Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Odell Thurman was arrested for drunk driving early Monday morning. Around 3 am a police officer working near a sobriety check point saw Thurman cross a double yellow line and stopped the vehicle for suspicion of DUI. Thurman was taken to the checkpoint where he was asked to perform a breathalyzer test. His BAC was 0.18, more than twice the legal limit. Thurman was released to a sober companion and teammate who drove him home. ]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:16:58 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11541&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11541 OVI check point tonight : VietVet wrote:alldaywatching-... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11540&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11540 Author: Hermes
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 11:51am

VietVet wrote:

alldaywatching- then if the checkpoints are advertised as DUI and are also used for windshields, lights and seat belts, isn't it a form of entrapment and deception, and if so, be challenged in a court of law? Anyone??

Vet- Thats exactly my point,these stops are being done under the PRETENSE of catching DUI drivers. Now in their infancy in the 70's it may well have been good intentions on everyone's part to have these check points,but not today. Like most laws it is being abused and due to political rhetoric judges uphold these tactics and fail to recognize what is acually going on or they simply do not care.

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:51:13 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11540&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11540 OVI check point tonight : Vet, I will you what happened.... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11539&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11539 Author: Iliveheretoo
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 11:34am

Vet, I will you what happened. I was on route 4 coming from Germantown ( I have family there and was visiting for the night) I drove home at about 1am on a Friday night. I was stopped in Posttown by a check point. I had not had one drink, when the officer came to the car i had all the proper paper waiting on him. the first thing he asked me was where Iwas coming from. I explained I had been with some family and was now heading home. He asked if I had been drinking and I said not at all.

His next question is what made angered me, he said I really shouldnt be out this late, and why didnt i just stay with my family instead of driving home? I was shocked!! I replied that I didnt want to and have the right to drive home if I want too. I was asked if I would object to him searchimg my car? I said I would because he has no reason. he explained that he does not need one and I need to step out of the car. after he searched my car, I use that term loosely, it was more like trashed. I was allowed to leave after about 45 min.

So no i do not like check points and think they are a gross misuse of power.
]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:34:47 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11539&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11539 OVI check point tonight : alldaywatching- then if the checkpoints... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11537&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11537 Author: VietVet
Subject: 1993
Posted: Sep 28 2009 at 11:17am

alldaywatching- then if the checkpoints are advertised as DUI and are also used for windshields, lights and seat belts, isn't it a form of entrapment and deception, and if so, be challenged in a court of law? Anyone??]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:17:38 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1993&PID=11537&title=ovi-check-point-tonight#11537