Middletown Forum : Town Hall Meeting http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Town Hall Meeting Mon, 05 Oct 2026 13:11:01 +0000 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:25:34 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2115 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Town Hall Meeting : I don't understand why all... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12429&title=town-hall-meeting#12429 Author: Marianne
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Posted: Oct 16 2009 at 10:25am

I don't understand why all the candidates haven't been attending each home game.  iIt seems like a great opportunity to interact with the community. 

When I was at East last week, I was bombarded by candidates for offices.  Had to drive them off with my cowbell.

]]> Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:25:34 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12429&title=town-hall-meeting#12429 Town Hall Meeting : Good Morning, tonight at 6 pm... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12427&title=town-hall-meeting#12427 Author: randy
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Posted: Oct 16 2009 at 10:17am

Good Morning, tonight at 6 pm Josh Laubach will be at the Middies football game getting his word. Any one interested should come out and show support for him.]]> Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:17:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12427&title=town-hall-meeting#12427 Town Hall Meeting : Good Morning Viet Vet - While... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12419&title=town-hall-meeting#12419 Author: Nelson R. Self
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Posted: Oct 16 2009 at 7:39am

Good Morning Viet Vet -
 
While I have never had the pleasure of meeting Pacman, Mike Presta, Vivian Moon or you in person, I do have great respect for what you have done to restore common sense to local government.  Others like Gary Barge, John Soppanish, Paul Nagy, etc. have made great contributions also.
 
Thank you for your service overseas and in Middletown!  I hope that your wife is doing better these days too!
]]> Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:39:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12419&title=town-hall-meeting#12419 Town Hall Meeting : It's OK Nelson. Perhaps,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12418&title=town-hall-meeting#12418 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Oct 16 2009 at 7:24am

It's OK Nelson. Perhaps, after the November elections, and if the incumbants retain their seats, a citizen or two will decide to make a trip to Hamilton to "pick up" a boatload of petitions and discuss options/proper procedures with Ms. McGary, to address a number of issues discussed on this forum, including the removal of some people from their city positions of leadership. That's after waiting the prescribed number of months of course. Perhaps if all goes well, we will have gotten their attention, gotten some problem children out of their highchairs and perhaps, those that remain may stop ignoring us. ]]> Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:24:03 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12418&title=town-hall-meeting#12418 Town Hall Meeting : Pacman - What you say is (sadly)... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12415&title=town-hall-meeting#12415 Author: Nelson R. Self
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Posted: Oct 16 2009 at 6:59am

Pacman -
 
What you say is (sadly) 100% true!
 
I have great concern how the potential results of this November's upcoming election could send the City of Middletown further down the poverty road.
 
Vote for Nagy, Barge, Laubach and Soppanish!
]]> Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:59:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12415&title=town-hall-meeting#12415 Town Hall Meeting : Good Morning Pacman - The name... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12413&title=town-hall-meeting#12413 Author: Nelson R. Self
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Posted: Oct 16 2009 at 6:46am

Good Morning Pacman -

The name of their Section 8 consultant is Frank Chapman.  By the way, neither Miss Gilleland or Mr. Kohler ever introduced me to him.  I have no idea how much he was paid and believed that he started working for them in March 2008.
 
In late February 2008 at the first meeting of the City Council Housing Subcommittee in the City Manager's office, the following persons were present: Miss Gilleland, Mr. Kohler, Mr. Schiavone, Ms. Barbara Castells and me.  At that time they stated their dissatisfaction with the the manner that Section 8 was administered.  Discussion focused on the Planning Department taking over all operations; a City run program!
 
It was Miss Gilleland who stated that a consultant should be hired to make this recommendcation rather than city staff or city council members.  I was told by two City Council members to keep my nose clean and that I might be promoted to head-up this program at $70,000+ per year.  One of these elected officials (he is now a candidate) told the Immediate Past President of the Middletown Board of REALTORS that I was the likely person to be the initial city staff administrator.  By the way, if records are checked you will find that my highest annual earnings were less than $54,000 annually.  I felt that I was very well paid and am glad that I never made the Middletown Journal list of high paid city employees!
 
The rest is history and, once again, I had nothing to do with Section 8 in any possible manner.  Prior to this, my role had nothing to do with setting policy, etc., as things of importance were handled personally by Mr. Kohler and C.O.N.S.O.C. senior officials.
 
Pacman, how sad for the City of Middletown that people like Mike Presta, Viet Vet, Vivian Moon, yourself and a handful of other concerned citizens are ignored by the elitists!
 
]]> Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:46:45 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12413&title=town-hall-meeting#12413 Town Hall Meeting : Nelson that may be true. The fact... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12412&title=town-hall-meeting#12412 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Oct 16 2009 at 5:25am

Nelson that may be true.  The fact of the matter is that in the fall of 2008 Gilleland and the Section 8 Consultant, I forget his name, both recommended to Council that the city divest itself of the Section 8 program turning it over to BMH and some to Warren County.  It was then that the City Council stepped in and vetoed that idea and took over the reins of Section 8.  Here we are 1 year later and all that has been accomplished in that year is a new contract with Consoc, the very company that had a hand in getting us into the Section 8 mess the City is currently in.  It has taken City Council 1 year to just decide this month to have Housing Authority meetings.  Council still appears to not have a handle on Section 8.  Armbruster says no reduction in vouchers now, Marconi says they have reduced some already, then says they need HUD OK to reduce vouchers.

It is City Council that is making the decisions that are detrimental to the overall well being of Middletown's financial growth.  It is city council that sits there and denies Forbes stats that Middletown's poverty has grown to 22% from  12% in 10 short years and yet they quote the 22% figure in HUD applications for grant money.  It is city council that is perpetuating the socio-economic imbalance that is plaguing Middletown.  It is city council that is not hearing what it's citizens are saying they want for their city, and sadly it is the Citizens that let them get away with it day in and day out.  Folks this is your city, this City does not just belong to the 7 people on Coucnil to do what THEY want done,  which is what is happening right now.
 
]]> Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:25:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12412&title=town-hall-meeting#12412 Town Hall Meeting : Pacman - Until the latter part... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12361&title=town-hall-meeting#12361 Author: Nelson R. Self
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Posted: Oct 15 2009 at 1:32pm

Pacman -
 
Until the latter part of July 2008, HUD grants (CDBG & HOME) focused the allocation of funds and approved program activities as follows:
 
1) home ownership promotion (the HOME Program permitted citywide activities):
2) strategic minor plus major owner-occupied housing rehabilitation (the CDBG Program and approved FY 2005-2009 Consolidated Plan focused on targeted census tracts);
3) concentrated housing code enforcement (the CDBG Program and approved FY 2005-2009 Consolidated Plan focused on targeted census tracts);
4) residential property demolition (the CDBG Program and approved FY 2005-2009 Consolidated Plan focused on targeted census tracts); and,
5) community improvement projects like Damon Park, housing makeovers, Dream Center rehab, etc. (the CDBG Program and approved FY 2005-2009 Consolidated Plan focused on targeted census tracts).
 
As of March 2008, Section 8 was totally handled by Miss Gilleland, Mr. Kohler and one of their many consultants.
 
There's nothing else to say that hasn't already been passed along to the participants of MiddletownUSA plus the local news media.  Some day in the future, I hope and pray that the truth will be shared with the citizens of Middletown. 
]]> Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:32:41 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12361&title=town-hall-meeting#12361 Town Hall Meeting : Bobbie in the beginning it would... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12359&title=town-hall-meeting#12359 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Oct 15 2009 at 1:09pm

Bobbie in the beginning it would probably mean Middletown would still have more Section 8 than other Areas.  But over time it is hoped that as people have the flexibility to move throughout the county to where the jobs are they will move elsewhere and Section 8 landlords Will rent to others.  The problem is everyone just says oh well nothing is going to change so forget it.  So many are not even interested in taking back their community and improving it, I don't get it around here.
 
Middletown needs to stop approving any type of Public housing, Handicap/disabled Housing, Senior Housing, you need to reverse the over abundance and reach a middle  ground.
 
Unless you bring in residents that actually pay taxes you will lose this city forever in the next 10-20 years if that long.
 
People go oh my, you can't talk or do that.  Unfortunately if you don't reduce the poverty and Public Assistance Housing to a reasonable level and raise revenues everyone ends up hurt in the end.  It is just commonsense management and reaching a socio-economic balance so everyone benefits, the poor, the middle class, the elderly......everyone.
]]> Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:09:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12359&title=town-hall-meeting#12359 Town Hall Meeting : Would transferring voucher to... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12349&title=town-hall-meeting#12349 Author: Bobbie
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Posted: Oct 15 2009 at 11:58am

Would transferring voucher to Butler County really help.  BMH puts people into Middletown right now.  So if we transferred the vouchers - it would not move the section 8 housing.  ]]> Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:58:52 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2115&PID=12349&title=town-hall-meeting#12349