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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? : Maybe so, Vet I went from being...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;18&nbsp;2009 at 1:42pm<br /><br />Maybe so, Vet<DIV>I went from being a sociology major 2 being a philosophy major 2 being an economics major</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Just hate 2 c good people sniping at other good people over something like this, however it reely ain't my bizness.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Times are difficult and there aren't many answers that are going to please anyone.</DIV><DIV>Just being somewhat reflective on the season and the challenges this annual version will bring.</DIV><DIV>I always revert to music and the timeless messages within--just my thing</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>As the Yaga man sez:</DIV><DIV>Stop da fussin and da fightin</DIV><DIV>Increase da Peace!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? : Spider- I am merely trying to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;18&nbsp;2009 at 9:33am<br /><br />Spider- I am merely trying to hold accountable the poster known as GMAB for their statements on their military service. I ask one simple question at the beginning of this based on HIS "war zone" statement. I see nothing negative about asking that simple question. I did not forsee this simple question escalating into a major issue. I'm glad you can "count on me" to "keep it constructive for one f'n day"! <br /><br />You've turned into quite the philosopher haven't you with your 60's musical quotes. Nice work!  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? : hey wasteful--if it isn&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;18&nbsp;2009 at 9:20am<br /><br />hey wasteful--if it isn't HONEST, then we probably shouldn't be posting <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>VET--I knew that I could count on you to keep it constructive for one f'n day--or maybe 1/2 a f'n day.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>We are all proud and thankful for everyone's military service no matter in what area and to what degree.</DIV><DIV>Still--we are back in local society now dealing with challenges of a different type.</DIV><DIV>There really is no enemy or "other side"</DIV><DIV>This was evidenced by the budget struggle within Council last night.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Credit to ALL Councilmembers for doing the work and attempting to put a round peg into a square hole(a SMALL square hole).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I see no issue leaving the key issues to our new Council.</DIV><DIV>We voted for three new members, and anticipate fresh thinking to take us in a new direction.</DIV><DIV>Obviously these men knew what was forthcoming if chosen.</DIV><DIV>I have confidence in their thinking and conciliatory approach.</DIV><DIV>I expect them to be much more open to the public and anticipate the next Council to be "set up to answer citizens' ?s".</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks Nelson for posting such important information</DIV><DIV>Thanks Vivian for your cemetary efforts and follow thru</DIV><DIV>Thanks Mike and pacman for good concepts and data</DIV><DIV>Thanks to MUSA for providing this wonderful forum</DIV><DIV>Thanks to the local business owners for working so hard and remaining positive towards our future</DIV><DIV>Thanks to past and present Councilmembers for the personal sacrifice and efforts</DIV><DIV>Thanks to everyone not mentioned for the valuable contributions online and in the field</DIV><DIV>Thanks to everyone who has supported me in every facet of my life and time here in Middietown</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>So get out of the new world </DIV><DIV>If you can't lend a hand</DIV><DIV>Cause the times</DIV><DIV>They are a changin'</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? : GMAB boyscouts dont count. B-3-1...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=469">LMAO</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;18&nbsp;2009 at 8:52am<br /><br />GMAB boyscouts dont count.<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /><DIV>B-3-1 ARMY STRONG!!!!!!!</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? : OK GMAB- Apparently, you are more...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;18&nbsp;2009 at 7:06am<br /><br />OK GMAB- Apparently, you are more interested in providing flak than fact on you responses. Most vets that I have talked to over the years readily provide answers to questions such as "what branch of service were you in?", "where were you stationed?", "what did you do while in?". etc. Usually, they are proud that they saw (and survived) some war action. You seem to be reluctant to devulge what most vets will talk about freely. Just seems strange that you don't want to talk about something that most are proud of. Interesting concept- "only those important ot me do I "prove" my war experiences"- Why did you mention your military experiences on this blog to total strangers then if you only talk about it with your family?<br /><br />I have trust issues?- Yep, when another vet in giving me some bullsh--about their "war zone" experiences and won't reveal the war. Hard to believe someone who is reluctant to answer a simple question.<br /><br />"You see, this isn't my first rodeo"- what??? Were you a frikkin' cowboy in the past? What the he-- is that all about?<br /><br />Yep, I think most could stereotype you rather easily.<br /><br />Your age? What you did in the service? Don't care. Just asked what war, that's all.<br /><br />"I'm content with what I have done in the military". "I don't have to prove it to anyone-especially on a blog"- Not asking you to prove that you were in the military- YOU mentioned that YOU were in a war zone. I merely asked which war zone? Simple question requiring a simple answer.  <br /><br />This blog- my life?? No, just a hobby, a way to get information not otherwise given in the Journal and a way to communicate with several who are like minded, that's all. <br /><br />You want healthy political debate?- what do you want to discuss? I offered to meet and discuss things. You chose to turn the offer down. <br /><br />Everything turns personal- again--- how is asking what war were you in turning everything personal? I only asked for clarification. You chose to turn it into a pissing match.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? : &amp;#034;how about tomorrow everyone...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=358">wasteful</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;18&nbsp;2009 at 6:54am<br /><br />"how about tomorrow everyone only says good <strong><EM><U><FONT color=#ff0000>honest</FONT></U></EM></strong> positive constructive praising comments towards everything/everyone? just 4 1 f'n day"<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>This is all fine and good but just how honest do you think it will be.................................<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" /></DIV>]]>
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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? : wow gmab  that will be one heck...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;17&nbsp;2009 at 7:45pm<br /><br />wow gmab <DIV>that will be one heck of a bounce out west if/when that occurs.</DIV><DIV>Like Middietown, all I hear at this time is a loud thud</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Actually there probably won't be much bounce, instead a reach for a helping hand</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It's simply a message board to exchange concepts,thoughts and information</DIV><DIV>everyone has to be so tough</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>how about tomorrow everyone only says good honest positive constructive praising comments towards everything/everyone? just 4 1 f'n day</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>R U going away</DIV><DIV>with no words of fare well</DIV><DIV>will u leave all that&nbsp;&nbsp;we've had behind?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I&nbsp;didn't want to hurt you</DIV><DIV>Didn't mean to be unkind</DIV><DIV>You know</DIV><DIV>That was the last thing on my mind</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>beautiful lyrics by Lightfoot I believe</DIV><DIV>anyone familiar with the Yaga philosphy?</DIV>]]>
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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? : VietVet-I could give a crap if...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=427">GMAB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;17&nbsp;2009 at 3:35pm<br /><br />VietVet-&nbsp;&nbsp;I could give a crap if you believe me or not.&nbsp;&nbsp; My friends and family know what I did.&nbsp;&nbsp; That's good enough for me.&nbsp;&nbsp; Only those important to me do I "prove" my war experiences (I like to think of it as sharing my experiences).&nbsp;&nbsp; Seems to me you have trust issues.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a DD-214, Ribbons, Medals, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; You can believe me or not.&nbsp;&nbsp; Doesn't bother me.&nbsp;&nbsp; You see, this isn't my first rodeo.&nbsp;&nbsp; I understand there are many people like you in this world that like to form stereotypes about people.&nbsp;&nbsp; You are just dying to know what war- so then you can estimate my age.&nbsp;&nbsp; You want to know my specific job- so you can gauge my contributions.&nbsp;&nbsp; For me, I could give a sh#* less if you were the closest thing to Rambo the jungles of Vietnam has seen(or if you were Private Pile).&nbsp;&nbsp; I am content with what I have done in the military.&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't have to prove it to anyone- especially on a blog.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This blog may be your life; but not mine.&nbsp;&nbsp; I only joined to call you out since you seem to be determined to turn everything negative.&nbsp;&nbsp; I thought you loved healthy political debate?&nbsp;&nbsp; Guess not.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Everything turns personal.&nbsp;&nbsp; As for PTSD- nah, sounds like you have watched one too many episodes of Dr. Phil.&nbsp;&nbsp; But thank you for your concern and your opinion!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <DIV>Mike-&nbsp; Quit thinking about the short term.&nbsp;&nbsp; California will turn the tide long before a city such as Middletown.&nbsp;&nbsp; California has invested billions into their infrastructure and development and they will be reaping the reward by next year.&nbsp;&nbsp;As we all know, Middletown's economy will turn around much slower.&nbsp;&nbsp; California can go into debt- the state has an economy bigger than most nations.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Imbecile or not, Cali will bounce back quicker than Middletown.&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>What happened in Ward 1 ?? :   Mike_Presta wrote:    GMAB...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;16&nbsp;2009 at 12:59pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" alt="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mike_Presta wrote:</strong><br /><br /><DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by GMAB" alt="Originally posted by GMAB" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>GMAB wrote:</strong><br /><br />I lived in California- the most progressive state.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a fundamental understanding of forward thinking and the positive changes that are a direct result.</td></tr></table>I have also&nbsp;lived in California. Are we speaking of the same place?&nbsp; Are we speaking of the state that is dead BROKE???&nbsp; The state that issues IOUs as state income tax refunds and state paychecks???&nbsp; The state that has a state debt larger than many NATIONS???&nbsp; Is THAT the state of which you speak so fondly???&nbsp; Are those the "positive changes" and "forward thinking" about which you boast???</td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by GMAB" alt="Originally posted by GMAB" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>GMAB wrote:</strong><br /><br />Mike- Another assumption.&nbsp;&nbsp; You ar an idiot.&nbsp; Nice try</td></tr></table> An "assumption"???&nbsp; Hardly!!&nbsp; I was simply seeking CLARIFICATION!!!&nbsp; I found it mind-boggling that anyone would choose California to hold up as an example.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You&nbsp;might be unaware of the host of serious PROBLEMS that have resulted from California's "PROGRESSIVE" agenda.&nbsp; You might have problems with reading comprehension.&nbsp;Or, you might be an imbecile.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I vote for IMBECILE, but that is simply a clinical-type&nbsp;observation and not meant to be offensive.&nbsp; Please do NOT consider it a personal attack!!&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=433">Nurse Ratched</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2264<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;16&nbsp;2009 at 9:19am<br /><br /><strong>NOTE: Video contains explicit language</strong> <BR><BR><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fanv5vjdDds&amp;feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fanv5vjdDds&amp;feature=related</A> <BR><BR><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Video of VietVet "Just touch me once more..." <BR></DIV>]]>
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