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   <title>growth in poverty : Hermes I think you might be onto...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=467">taxed2death</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;24&nbsp;2009 at 4:55pm<br /><br />Hermes I think you might be onto something lol]]>
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   <title>growth in poverty : I think everyone is missing the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;23&nbsp;2009 at 1:04pm<br /><br /><FONT size=3 face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I think everyone is missing the bigger picture. The plan for the city is actually brilliant, it's a reversal of any normal plan for prosperity &amp; growth. If you introduce poverty then the money will flow from DC. You get the politicians attention because now they have a cause to support and it gives them a stump at election time to try and save a dying city and community. Then they pour federal dollars into the city to help all the hard working people who will get them elected. Then the city can build bike paths, art shops, paint murals on buildings and all that adds to ambiance of the community. <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" /><DIV></DIV>&nbsp;<DIV></DIV>Absolutely brilliant I say !! <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></FONT>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>growth in poverty : You are correct swohio75. I recall...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;23&nbsp;2009 at 12:08pm<br /><br />You are correct swohio75. I recall Gilleland wanting to transfer the Section 8 to BMHA, but Council shot that down. Still, it outrages me that the city leaders even entertained thoughts of making this town a welfare/Section 8 attraction. Sounds as if , by your information, that the Becker years of his city manager tenure and the seated council back then, they are the primary culprits here. Again, I re-itterate- ALL who initiated the program and who support this Section 8 fiasco need to go. ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>growth in poverty :   VietVet wrote:I&amp;#039;m telling...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=128">swohio75</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;23&nbsp;2009 at 10:43am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by VietVet" alt="Originally posted by VietVet" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>VietVet wrote:</strong><br /><br />I'm telling you, we need to get rid of the city manager and all who support this Section 8/welfare/attracting the low income theme before the town is totally decimated- if it hasn't been already.</td></tr></table> <DIV>I wouldn't rush to blame the city manager.&nbsp; The growth of Section 8 Housing occured under Bill Becker's tenure as interim city manager and then as permanent city manager.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If you recall, Judy wanted to transfer Section 8 administration to BMHA, and council quickly nixed that idea. Like it or not, she reports directly to council as they hire/fire the city manager.&nbsp; In changing directions, she only did what council directed her to do.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>growth in poverty : VietIf you think these numbers...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;23&nbsp;2009 at 7:17am<br /><br /><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Viet<BR>If you think these numbers sounds bad now just wait until the hard numbers are in for the real poverty rate of </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA"> and also the decline in the city’s population. <DIV>The City has now set us up the perfect storm. <BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></DIV></SPAN>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>growth in poverty : Ahhhh! Something else to be proud...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;23&nbsp;2009 at 6:29am<br /><br />Ahhhh! Something else to be proud of here in the old pueblo. Thanks goes out to Judith G. and past and present council members for this remarkable milestone for our town.  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" align="middle" />  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> Not only are we one of the fastest dying cities according to Forbes, but now, we are in good company with the growth of poverty! Nice going folks! I'm telling you, we need to get rid of the city manager and all who support this Section 8/welfare/attracting the low income theme before the town is totally decimated- if it hasn't been already.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>growth in poverty : http://www.daytondailynews.com...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=429">transplant</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;23&nbsp;2009 at 1:58am<br /><br /><a href="http://www.dayt&#111;ndailynews.com/news/dayt&#111;n-news/census-numbers-paint-bleak-picture-in-xenia-416052.html" target="_blank">http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/census-numbers-paint-bleak-picture-in-xenia-416052.html</A><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>portion of the story: Although most cities in the Dayton region have suffered economically, Xenia stands out. It is one of four area cities — along with Trotwood, Dayton and <U>Middletown</U> — that rank in the top 20 in growth of poverty this decade among Ohio cities with greater than 20,000 population, according to new Census data.</DIV>]]>
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