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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : Good post Pacman !!  And I agree...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;16&nbsp;2010 at 9:39am<br /><br />Good post Pacman !!<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And I agree with you,must be something to it.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : From the Journal today, the most...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;16&nbsp;2010 at 7:46am<br /><br />From the Journal today, the most interesting part of the quote to me is in red:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><H1 =articleline>Thumbs down to  a contentious hire</H1></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>"<strong>While we</strong> have a great deal of respect for Judge Mark Wall and other officials in Middletown Municipal Court, we have to bestow a “thumbs down” over the recent hiring of former Middletown City Council member David Schiavone by the court. Granted, Schiavone will only be working for the court on a part-time and temporary basis, but even the appearance of impropriety — that Schiavone possibly used his influence to get the job — should be avoided. <FONT color=#ff0000><strong>Critics of City Hall <FONT color=#0000ff size=3>have enough ammunition </FONT>without giving them a gift-wrapped grievance like this</strong></FONT>."</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Must be some credence to what is said on this board.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : stewie&amp;#039;s final paragraph...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 2:23pm<br /><br />stewie's final paragraph pretty much says it all.<DIV>couldn't agree more--and hopefully our new Council members have learned a great deal from this situation. I expect them to modify their stance and act accordingly. Time to vote down un-necessary "emergency" legislation at each and every meeting.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Still--sounds like Mr.S was aware of this opening b4 leaving Council and jumped on the opportunity after leaving Council. As to whether it was discussed with Mr.Rossi et al in advance, who knows? Obviously no one else was considered for the position, and Mr.S does have a backround within the court system. He has been hired, and will hopefully do an outstanding job.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! :   VietVet wrote:stewieboy- I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=402">stewieboy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 2:11pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by VietVet" alt="Originally posted by VietVet" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>VietVet wrote:</strong><br /><br />stewieboy- I might be wrong here, but didn't someone say that this position funding was configured in last years city budget? Is that right or not folks? Is stewieboy right? Does Schiavone's salary come from the county budget? If so, why is this issue before the city council, why was an ordinance adopted and why was it declared an emergency by Landen?</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>From the Court Directors staff report to City mgr:</DIV><DIV>"&nbsp;There is no financial impact to the city as the funds for this position would be available from the Court’s Special Projects Fund. &nbsp;The Municipal Court would stay within their approved 2010 budget."</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The court's special project fund is not part of the city budget. I think it is partially funded from court fines.&nbsp; The city has no hand, unfortunately, in this fund.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I'm going to go against the grain here in being slightly dissapointed in the way that AJ and JL are reacting to this issue.&nbsp; By being "extremely upset", "furious", and "deeply apologizing" seem like grandstanding and melodramatic.&nbsp; This might very well be warranted, but not without first knowing all the facts first.&nbsp;&nbsp;Coming out with guns blazing first seem very insincere to me.&nbsp; I'm not a politican and not a fan of this cities management, but in 20 years of business I've seen it too often where the new "kid", though well intentioned, comes out making the most noise, but end up stumbling.&nbsp; Let your actions speak for you.&nbsp; You build credibility that way, and the noise you make after that will be taken more seriously.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : Ok, I will wait for more infor...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=216">randy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 11:45am<br /><br /><P>Ok, I will wait for more infor to come out before voicing my opinion any more, but in closing <strong>you</strong> and <strong>I </strong>both know that something funny went down. </P>]]>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : It is my understanding that the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=532">Murray</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 11:37am<br /><br />It is my understanding that the rush to create the job was because Middletown Courts were dinged for lack of appropriate security by the Ohio Supreme Court and told to fix it.&nbsp; In light of what happened in Las Vegas a few weeks ago, I could see why that is important.]]>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : OK well what was the rush to create...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=216">randy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 11:31am<br /><br />OK well what was the rush to create this job? if you can explain that to me (in a logical way) I will leave this subject alone till more facts come out. ]]>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : So pretty much it was a waste...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=216">randy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 11:29am<br /><br />So pretty much it was a waste of time. ]]>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : My post did answer it...it said...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=532">Murray</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 11:11am<br /><br /><P>My post did answer it...it said out of courtesy (although I don't think I spelled it correctly, my fault)...not out of curiosity.&nbsp; From my understanding it is faster to have it approved by council, but not necessary.&nbsp; </P>]]>
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   <title>AIN&#039;T NO WAY!!!!!!!! : Mr. Murray, you have yet to answer...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=216">randy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2516<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 10:59am<br /><br />Mr. Murray, you have yet to answer the one question that I asked more than once, If council has no say so in this matter why bring them an emergency ordnance in the first place? And please dont say out of&nbsp;courtesy , it the decision council made that day didn't really matter in the first place why waste their time and quite frankly mine as well as I sat there listening to the ordnance being read. So please explain to me ans the rest of our readers Why?? ]]>
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