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   <title>Alternative City Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects : Thanks for your input Randy, Acclaro...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=434">Nelson R. Self</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2657<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;10&nbsp;2010 at 9:19am<br /><br /><strong><FONT size=2>Thanks for your input Randy, Acclaro and Hermes.&nbsp; It's concerned citizens&nbsp;like you who can reform local government in&nbsp;Middletown.&nbsp; I have faith in all three of you.&nbsp; You can (and are) helping to bring back open, honest and effective governance here.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /></FONT></strong>]]>
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   <title>Alternative City Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects : Much information was sent to the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=434">Nelson R. Self</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2657<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;10&nbsp;2010 at 9:14am<br /><br /><strong><FONT size=2>Much information was sent to the HUD Columbus Field Office.&nbsp; They failed to respond because of their "poor record" in keeping track of what was going on in Middletown during a good part of the last decade.&nbsp; As a case in point, I received only four or five calls from HUD during my employment with the City.&nbsp; There was little if any HUD oversight.<DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Similarly, much information was also shared with the HUD Inspector General's Office in Washington, D.C.&nbsp; No real response there as well.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>City staff know that HUD is pretty much "asleep at the wheel" and now have no concerns that I can do anything legally to expose the waste and mismanagement other than to provide posts on MiddletownUSA.&nbsp; That's interesting because HUD funds come from us taxpayers?</DIV></FONT></strong>]]>
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   <title>Alternative City Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects :    QUESTION: Do certain senior...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=216">randy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2657<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;10&nbsp;2010 at 9:12am<br /><br /><FONT size=2><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3></FONT><strong>&nbsp;</strong></DIV><DIV><strong><FONT color=#ff00ff>QUESTION:</FONT>&nbsp; Do certain senior City staff and some City Council members really care what we think about Middletown's problems?</strong></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I think some do, but they are out numbered and over whelmed </DIV><DIV><strong>&nbsp;</strong></DIV><DIV><strong><FONT color=#ff00ff>QUESTION:</FONT>&nbsp; Do certain senior City staff and some City Council members really care that we are "left out of the loop" when it comes to decision-making, the expenditure of millions of taxpayers money, etc.?</strong></DIV><DIV><strong></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>No,they do not Nelson, not at all</DIV><DIV><strong>&nbsp;</strong></DIV><DIV><strong><FONT color=#ff00ff>QUESTION:</FONT>&nbsp; Is there transparency and accountability present in our municipal government?</strong></DIV><DIV><strong>&nbsp;</strong></DIV><DIV>If by transparency you mean can we see through their BS then sure. But no one is held accountable you are right about that. &nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong>I'm increasingly convinced&nbsp;that the best&nbsp;option&nbsp;to&nbsp;revitalize&nbsp;our city&nbsp;rests solely upon MiddletownUSA participants plus other concerned citizens&nbsp;in&nbsp;crafting&nbsp;<FONT color=#ff0000>"alternative housing &amp; community development priorities, policies &amp; projects."&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>So much can be achieved by us in&nbsp;challenging the&nbsp;One Donham Plaza crowd in bringing about positive change via&nbsp;such a grass roots effort!</strong></DIV><DIV><strong>&nbsp;</strong></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><strong>Most, if not all of us who participate on this Blog, already have a good handle on the issues that plague our community.&nbsp; We're frustrated with the indifference and inability of those senior&nbsp;City staff "leaders" plus some City Council members to sensibly, effectively&nbsp;and economically address what ails Middletown. </strong><DIV><strong>&nbsp;</strong></DIV><DIV><strong>It is time for those of us "looking in&nbsp;on One Donham Plaza from the outside" to begin the process of&nbsp;working collectively&nbsp;on "<FONT color=#ff0000>Alternate Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects"</FONT>&nbsp;that will help Middletown to recover.&nbsp; Upon completion, this new, fresh thinking should be presented to the general public for action.</strong></DIV><DIV><strong>&nbsp;</strong></DIV><DIV><strong>In my humble opinion, should&nbsp;the above steps&nbsp;not be taken by us, we'll continue talking about the problems and misguided City efforts to solve them with little or no results.&nbsp;&nbsp;You never know what may become of an effort to take back our government.&nbsp; <FONT color=#ff0000>Power rests with the people.&nbsp; The challenge is&nbsp;up to us!</FONT></strong></DIV></FONT>&#091;/QUOTE&#093; <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You said it right there, The change is up to us!!!!!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Alternative City Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects : Mr. Self, Ianswer an affirmative...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2657<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;10&nbsp;2010 at 9:02am<br /><br />Mr. Self, I&nbsp;answer an affirmative "no" on your questions regarding their interest. As for a course of action, I agree something needs to be done quickly. I've said many times, the first no brainer initiative is to put the funds back into the cookie jar for street repair (1988 ordinance change). If the new stars on council can't see that priority, then we all know staus quo is going along as usual. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I think the cameras cause the city more harm than good, because it makes it look desperate, out for a quick buck, a police state. Why isn't MUM and its network downtown, doing some studies and gathering input from citizens on issues and opinions about the city? They have plling capabilities, and would be invaluable to objectively formulate and collect data as to how citizens really feel about Middletown. "re you happy with your elected officuals"? Yes/ No. There's two initiatives.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Section 8 will be taken care of in time, so I view that as beating a dead horse over and over. The city admitted they screwed up. So, the numbers will be driven down in time. Next?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Hosuing---you've covered that well on your forums, you know what said what, when, as do many who have read your material. I assume someone within the proper federal orgaization has been contacted and investigating (whether they care or not....who knows. If Homeland Security can let a terrorist almost bring down a plane with 300 passengers, I doubt HUD really follows up on most projects or abuse.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Define what change can be effected, and then how. I've given my suggestions. I assume petitions could be taken out on funding the golf course. I seriously doubt the majority of residents think the $250,000 wasted in overruns takes precedent over using those funds elsewhere, when Wildwood is begging for new members.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The best and most effective action to be taken will be to reverse the tax back to 1.5%, as it was unwarranted and used in a manner that hasn't impacted public safety.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Alternative City Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects : Nelson - Another good post ! And...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2657<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;10&nbsp;2010 at 8:57am<br /><br /><FONT size=3 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nelson - Another good post ! And I agree,but,....the only way I can see city hall changing is if an investigation/audit etc. is conducted by state and or federal officials. I firmly believe that the city is so corrupt that even if the people demanded change we'd never see it. I've talked to and even worked for some local business people who have been in business in town since the 50's and Oh the tales they can tell. While I think it's very noble for anyone to stand out front and fight I also believe that the city does not care what any of us think. Again,it will take more than the citizens to demand answers.</FONT>]]>
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   <title>Alternative City Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects : lrisner .................... thanks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=434">Nelson R. Self</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2657<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;10&nbsp;2010 at 8:33am<br /><br /><strong><FONT size=2>lrisner .................... thanks for your input.</FONT></strong><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong><FONT size=2>I honestly believe that nothing will change in Middletown if we fail to seize the opportunity to intelligently counter our&nbsp;all-knowing <FONT color=#ff0000>"so-called leaders and pseudo visionaries at One Donham Plaza."</FONT></FONT></strong></DIV>]]>
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   <title>Alternative City Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects :    Nelson R. Self wrote: TO:...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=303">lrisner</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2657<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;10&nbsp;2010 at 8:26am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Nelson R. Self" alt="Originally posted by Nelson R. Self" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Nelson R. Self wrote:</strong><br /><br /><strong><font size="2"><div><font color="#0000ff">TO:&nbsp; Randy, Mike Presta, Viet Vet, Pacman, Miss Vivian,&nbsp;Spider John, Acclaro,&nbsp;Merrell Wood,&nbsp;Wasteful, Hermes,&nbsp;Paul Nagy, Gary Barge, Etc.</font></div><div><font size="3"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font color="#ff00ff">QUESTION:</font>&nbsp; Do certain senior City staff and some City Council members really care what we think about Middletown's problems?</td></tr></table><br><br>They think they do but they ignore any dissenting opinion as 'uninformed"<br></div><div>&nbsp;<br><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Nelson R. Self" alt="Originally posted by Nelson R. Self" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Nelson R. Self wrote:</strong><br /><br /></div><div><font color="#ff00ff">QUESTION:</font>&nbsp; Do certain senior City staff and some City Council members really care that we are "left out of the loop" when it comes to decision-making, the expenditure of millions of taxpayers money, etc.?</td></tr></table></div><div>&nbsp;<br>They are so pompous about their "doing the right thing" disillusion that they feel justified in not keeping Citizens informed.<br><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Nelson R. Self" alt="Originally posted by Nelson R. Self" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Nelson R. Self wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br></div><div><font color="#ff00ff">QUESTION:</font>&nbsp; Is there transparency and accountability present in our municipal government?<br></td></tr></table><br><br>No way!<br></div><div>&nbsp;</div></font></strong><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Alternative City Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects :  TO: Randy, Mike Presta, Viet...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=434">Nelson R. Self</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2657<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;10&nbsp;2010 at 5:22am<br /><br /><strong><FONT size=2><DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>TO:&nbsp; Randy, Mike Presta, Viet Vet, Pacman, Miss Vivian,&nbsp;Spider John, Acclaro,&nbsp;Merrell Wood,&nbsp;Wasteful, Hermes,&nbsp;Etc.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#ff00ff>QUESTION:</FONT>&nbsp; Do certain senior City staff and some City Council members really care what we think about Middletown's problems?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#ff00ff>QUESTION:</FONT>&nbsp; Do certain senior City staff and some City Council members really care that we are "left out of the loop" when it comes to decision-making, the expenditure of millions of taxpayers money, etc.?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#ff00ff>QUESTION:</FONT>&nbsp; Is there transparency and accountability present in our municipal government?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I'm increasingly convinced&nbsp;that the best&nbsp;option&nbsp;to&nbsp;revitalize&nbsp;our city&nbsp;rests solely upon MiddletownUSA participants plus other concerned citizens&nbsp;in&nbsp;crafting&nbsp;<FONT color=#ff0000>"alternative housing &amp; community development priorities, policies &amp; projects."&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>So much can be achieved by us in&nbsp;challenging the&nbsp;One Donham Plaza crowd in bringing about positive change via&nbsp;such a grass roots effort!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>Most, if not all of us who participate on this Blog, already have a good handle on the issues that plague our community.&nbsp; We're frustrated with the indifference and inability of those senior&nbsp;City staff "leaders" plus some City Council members to sensibly, effectively&nbsp;and economically address what ails Middletown. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It is time for those of us "looking in&nbsp;on One Donham Plaza from the outside" to begin the process of&nbsp;working collectively&nbsp;on "<FONT color=#ff0000>Alternate Priorities, Policies &amp; Projects"</FONT>&nbsp;that will help Middletown to recover.&nbsp; Upon completion, this new, fresh thinking should be presented to the general public for action.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>In my humble opinion, should&nbsp;the above steps&nbsp;not be taken by us, we'll continue talking about the problems and misguided City efforts to solve them with little or no results.&nbsp;&nbsp;You never know what may become of an effort to take back our government.&nbsp; <FONT color=#ff0000>Power rests with the people.&nbsp; The challenge is&nbsp;up to us!</FONT></DIV></FONT></strong>]]>
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