Middletown Forum : Sweet Deals in Cincy........... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Manager : Sweet Deals in Cincy........... Tue, 06 Oct 2026 12:08:00 +0000 Wed, 27 Oct 2010 02:10:11 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2676 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : I've... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=22704&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#22704 Author: angelababy
Subject: 2676
Posted: Oct 27 2010 at 2:10am

I've worked for union companies & not many will let you build up that kind of time for that exact reason of building up so much money.
]]> Wed, 27 Oct 2010 02:10:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=22704&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#22704 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : correct sawan---and how badly... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=18684&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#18684 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 2676
Posted: May 05 2010 at 6:28am

correct sawan---and how badly did Florida beat Cincinnati?
What was the final score?
]]> Wed, 05 May 2010 06:28:34 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=18684&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#18684 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : The unions & the city officials... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16675&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16675 Author: Hermes
Subject: 2676
Posted: Feb 16 2010 at 11:47am

The unions & the city officials need to be told in no uncertain terms NO MORE LEVIES until the unions give in to the people who pay them !! The negotiations that take place between the city and all of these unions are suspect to begin with. The time has come to quit giving in to these thuggery unions ! I know as well as probably several of you how unions operate and the steps they will take if they don't get what they "demand". I don't care anymore !! If cops,firemen & teachers want to strike then strike !! A city is not a company, a city does not turn out a product or service to make money from, the money that is being "extorted" comes from the people and the people need to know and have a right to know what is taking place in these alleged negotiations. And the big pay days need to come to an end for these unions !! ]]> Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:47:26 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16675&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16675 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : Geez!!! I've told you and... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16671&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16671 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 2676
Posted: Feb 16 2010 at 11:30am

Geez!!!  I've told you and told you and told you and told you all about this, including BEFORE the vote on the "public safety payroll tax" increase!!!  I'm not going through it again...go back and look it up!!!  I've posted at least a dozen times!!!]]> Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:30:58 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16671&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16671 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : The public safety levy was never... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16669&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16669 Author: Nick_Kidd
Subject: 2676
Posted: Feb 16 2010 at 11:05am

The public safety levy was never meant to go to the police and firemen. The city said that it would not add any police or firemen, it would keep them from being laid off. The city hires all these other people but in order to keep them they claim that police and firemen are the only place they can make cuts. That is how our "leaders" hold our safety hostage so they can do whatever they want and force us to pay up. ]]> Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:05:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16669&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16669 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : By my calculations, if they are... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16662&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16662 Author: Pacman
Subject: 2676
Posted: Feb 16 2010 at 9:32am

By my calculations, if they are correct, they should have taken in about $2.3 Million last year from the Public Safety Levy. 
 
"City Manager Judy Gilleland said a new public safety levy could come before voters as early as November 2011. The current public safety levy will only provide funding through the end of 2012, she said.

“We need to start talking about it later this year, as far as strategy,” Gilleland said. “We would be asking for at least what we’re bringing in now.”

As the 2010 budget was completed prior to police bargaining units agreeing to a new contract with the city, Carolus said those increases will come out of the public safety levy fund.

On a related note, the issue of police pensions increasing from 19.5 percent to 24 percent over a five-year period was also discussed. The increase is estimated to cost the city approximately $55,000 for every percentage point, according to Carolus."

]]> Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:32:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16662&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16662 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : So--we passed a levy dedicating... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16660&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16660 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 2676
Posted: Feb 16 2010 at 9:11am

So--we passed a levy dedicating 100% of the resulting funds to public safety for 5 years(estimated $15 mill total, which might be over-stated).

 
Has the city borrowed into this funding and spent the $$ elsewhere?
Seems that this was hinted around at a past Council meeting.
Does anyone know, or is anyone from Admin/Council willing to honestly answer?
 
I am willing to go downtown to ask this ? 2 nite if necessary, and I would expect an honest detailed answer from someone. If "they" refuse to answer, then we actually KNOW the answer. 
]]> Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:11:17 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16660&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16660 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : Girls aren't the only ones... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16656&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16656 Author: VietVet
Subject: 2676
Posted: Feb 16 2010 at 6:49am

Girls aren't the only ones that go wild. Unions Gone Wild! Perhaps we need to thank the city leaders, no matter what city you live in, for allowing the police, fire and teachers unions to have total control of all union/city negotiations. Apparently, no one can say no to the unions on the city/ schools negotiations teams and we are seeing the results of "not saying no" in stories like these. I have never worked for a union shop. All of my employers in 42 years, have never offered accrued vacation or sick time hours until now. All had no sick time hours nor vacation hour rollovers. My current employer, UD, is the first to offer sick time hour accumulation but you are only allowed to accumulate up to a certain amount. You can roll a certain amount of vacation hours over into the next year, but you lose any vacation hours not taken if you have gone over the limit that is allowed in the rollover. How do we get the negotiations back on track to a reasonable situation without inflamming the union people who have had their way for so long? Any change in the way the city negotiates, will get static from the union folks. Is there such a thing as getting cops, fire personel and teachers to bargain for reasonable bennies without breaking the backs of the taxpayers? Probably not. Two choices here I guess.....either keep giving them what they, when they want it, or start saying no and risk a union uprising and work stoppage and deal with a lawsuit brought on by the union when you bring in cheaper non-union public servants and violate the current contract. ]]> Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:49:55 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16656&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16656 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : I have preached about this one... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16652&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16652 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 2676
Posted: Feb 15 2010 at 8:18pm

I have preached about this one since the good mj forum days.
And at the city tax levy forums.
No blame anywhere outside the unions and govt.
If it is there, you have to take it.
 
The pyramid has now inverted, crumbling from the compounding weight above.
 
Who came up with all of these perks, and why aren't ALL of us working this system?
How do we opt in to this taxpayer-funded program?
 
As James Brown might say:
Just talkin' loud
Ain't sayin' nothin
 
People say that I am apathetic
But I don't care.....
]]> Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:18:18 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16652&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16652 Sweet Deals in Cincy........... : I've worked for union companies... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16651&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16651 Author: Hermes
Subject: 2676
Posted: Feb 15 2010 at 6:13pm

I've worked for union companies & not many will let you build up that kind of time for that exact reason of building up so much money.
 
Unions are a double edged sword,but as I've always said "public servants should not nor ever be unionized".
]]> Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:13:46 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2676&PID=16651&title=sweet-deals-in-cincy#16651