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   <title>Get in the Game : Marianne, convoluted logic associated...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;09&nbsp;2010 at 11:26am<br /><br />Marianne, convoluted logic associated with something so simple as a Bright Past? Please. I'm sorry, I don't have time to do a graduate level class on rhetorical&nbsp;arguments and sentence structure. One owuld hardly consider the phrase Bright Past to be simple&nbsp;in terms of analysis on the premise of fundamental writing.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Personally, I could care less about council meetings, about council, about city hall, as I fully intend to sell my property and leave which has been my intent for years. The city is not making progress and won't. If you'd like to debate a substantive issue, by all means post, and I'll happily oblige a response. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Finally, the questions posed were quite simple to answer and ones any effective council leader should have given consideration without the need to bring them up on a consistent basis. But who cares at this juncture, Middletown will be your problem, not mine. Council is still in deep analysis on where the dog water fountain should go at Sunset Park, while new ordinances are being orchestrated associated with mandates to have pets on a leash which runs in contradiction to the high jump pole for border collies a consultant is drafting plans.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=143">Marianne</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;09&nbsp;2010 at 9:57am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by acclaro" alt="Originally posted by acclaro" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>acclaro wrote:</strong><br /><br /></td></tr></table> You're kidding, right? You really don't expect to waste council members' time on a supposed grammar question, do you? Marianne, you are kidding, right? I mean, do you think:<br /><div> </div><br /><div>1) Any council member is actually busy, and if so, doing what?</div><br /><div> </div><br /><div>2) Anyone woud actually have the correct answer?</div><br /><div> </div>&#091;/QUOTE&#093; <br /><br />Yes, this is exactly the attitude you should have when asking City Council members questions during a forum.  I don't get it. (Then again, I don't get your convoluted logic regarding grammar, so I shouldn't be surprised.)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On the one hand, you want sj to ask questions of the council members at the forum, but on the other hand, you offer a blanket disparaging remark about them?  <br /><br />Where's the post that asks, "Why won't any council members or any city government leaders answer our questions here?"  That should be coming up again soon.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;09&nbsp;2010 at 7:50am<br /><br />Was that Bud Light can in the gutter FULL???<DIV>If so, what is the address???</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2010 at 1:16pm<br /><br />&#091;/QUOTE&#093; <BR><BR>You're kidding, right? You really don't expect to waste council members' time on a supposed grammar question, do you? <BR><BR>Marianne, you are kidding, right? I mean, do you think:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>1) Any council member is actually busy, and if so, doing what?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>2) Anyone woud actually have the correct answer?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I told you before, its our secret.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" /></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=358">wasteful</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2010 at 12:43pm<br /><br />Maybe a better question for the slogan/logo is:&nbsp; Is this the best we can do?&nbsp; Put it up on the web or paper and let the people vote on whether they like it or not.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2010 at 12:42pm<br /><br /><P>Vet--despite your hard work and efforts, Mr.Kidd's hard work and efforts, and everyone else who has participated and blogged, there has been no result that has had stay power or enegized the public.</P><DIV>The public doesn't want to hear any more&nbsp; from any of us&nbsp; than they want to hear Mayor Mulligan, Ms.Gilleland, Mr.Kohler et al.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It will have to be THE ISSUE that first unites and inspires the public.</DIV><DIV>Then hopefully a new uniting leader will emerge.</DIV><DIV>We can only support candidates and issues through the elective process.</DIV><DIV>If you can put together something else that works, then go for it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>acclaro--I hope to attend each forum, and see no real issues with your ?s. </DIV><DIV>I would expect a few of them to be asked, and am not opposed to asking a couple of them myself.</DIV><DIV>HOWEVER--you could easily submit them in advance to the appropriate(or all) Councilmembers, so that they would be prepared to answer such ?s or bring these topics forward on their own.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=143">Marianne</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2010 at 12:37pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by acclaro" alt="Originally posted by acclaro" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>acclaro wrote:</strong><br /><br /><div>3. What is your position on the new city slogan, and do you agree or disagree Bright Past is improper English?</div><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />You're kidding, right?  You really don't expect to waste council members' time on a supposed grammar question, do you?<br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2010 at 11:04am<br /><br />sj, I will be out of town when the two council members will beholding their sessions with their constituents. Why not ask the following:<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>1. Do you support putting back on the city ordinance, the requirement infrastructure funds are used just for streets and roads?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>2. Are you aware Mr. Lambaugh, Ms. Smith- Jones, that inder Ohio law, taxes collected for tag renewal and such is allotted back to cities and municipalities for the sole purpose of fixing streets and bridges, and other infrastructure, yet, it appears those funds are diverted?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>3. What is your position on the new city slogan, and do you agree or disagree Bright Past is improper English?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>4. Why were funds supposed to be dedicated solely for public safety used for other purposes after the last election which was the basis for the .25% increase?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>5. What plans are there going forward, to curtail the cots of living adjustments, the excessive benefits employees in the city of Middletown enjoy, truly considered cadillac plan in substance, when the rest of the population of tax paying residents are suffering?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>There are about 6 more I can frame easily, and these are hardly confrontational.&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2010 at 10:48am<br /><br />spider- for years, we have discussed the apathy in this town. We talked about it on the old Middletown Journal blog and we've discussed it in detail here. Now, all of a sudden, you say that people actually are concerned and interested. Oh really? When did the apathy change? When did people start organizing for a common cause? I'm not aware of any grassroots movement in town that would provide resistance to city hall. How would we know whether they have "bought into the people behind the efforts attempted to date" if they haven't gotten up off the couch to see what they were shoveling? There has been no interest from a majority of people in this town or Mr. Kidd would have seen it a few years back at his meeting he had and we would have seen it at the library meetings. <br /><br />One common issue to create overwhelming opinion for change? If the Section 8 fiasco didn't fire people up what would? If the lack of jobs didn't fire people up, what would? How about the overall destruction of the town and the feel of desolation and an apocalyptic environment as we slowly become a ghost town in which to live? Not enough to get people mad yet, perhaps?<br /><br />If you are suggesting that we can't use the regulars and the native Middletonians, how long will we wait for the "outsider with appeal" to appear? Too much time has already been wasted while we watch the town collapse. It will never change unless someone does something soon with some mass appeal that will fire up the people, or this city will never turn itself around. Who will be the messiah?<br /><br />Ya think we can get rid of the old guard fast enough? Do you honestly think that there is not enough support for recalls? This would surprise me if there wasn't.<br /><br />Unite? Great! How? We can't even get the small contingent of people on this site to meet to discuss issues. There have been several attempts to meet and the suggestion dies every time. If like minds won't meet, how can we expect the masses to get together?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2773<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Mar&nbsp;08&nbsp;2010 at 9:01am<br /><br />People ARE both concerned and interested. <DIV>They simply haven't bought into the people behind&nbsp;and efforts attempted to date.</DIV><DIV>There must be ONE common issue to create overwhelming opinion for change, brought forward by a NEW FACE who has appeal to most facets of the community.</DIV><DIV>Then--the tables get turned as the large citizen majority rules.</DIV><DIV>The remaining "dark siders" are over-run and moved deeper into the backround.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It is simply going to have to be headed by someone different from here also.</DIV><DIV>Right ot wrong, the MUSA regulars are somewhat viewed as the sos opposition to the sos elected/employed city leaders.</DIV><DIV>No need for the same faces to ask the same ?s at the up-coming forums.</DIV><DIV>Let's hope that new faces come forward to ask or submit futuristic constructive ?s and concepts that can be embraced by a large majority.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Keep picking off the old guard one by one in the up-coming elections.</DIV><DIV>Forget recalls--not enough support.</DIV><DIV>Vote NO on tax/spending issues.</DIV><DIV>Though I will support the school issue as necessary for the students.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It is OUR city</DIV><DIV>The bureaucrats are in place to inact the will of the public.</DIV><DIV>And it is long past time for the public to uniote and clearly state a chosen path.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>This ain't no ball game.</DIV>]]>
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