Middletown Forum : McNeill's letter on school levy http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : School Tax Issues : McNeill's letter on school levy Mon, 05 Oct 2026 19:18:43 +0000 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:44:35 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2904 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ McNeill's letter on school levy : Sorry Vet/Mike/Hermes/pacman/nick due... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18192&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18192 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Apr 12 2010 at 3:44pm

Sorry Vet/Mike/Hermes/pacman/nick

due to incredible demand, I am out of school levy yard signs. sold the last two @ $50 each to the mmfers.

Vet-yer post on the county candidates pretty much explains why I have chosen Mr.Nenni. Since Paul and you are both lifers and approx.the same age, I assume that you 2 have crossed paths many times around here.

]]> Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:44:35 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18192&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18192 McNeill's letter on school levy : By all means, please do leave... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18191&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18191 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 12 2010 at 2:16pm

By all means, please do leave an Issue 5 sign in the yard, Spider! Bring those excess signs as well.


You are all invited to the house tonight, as we prematurely celebrate the defeat of Issue 5 with a bonfire in the front yard. Bring the weinies (no, not the city leaders) and the marshmallows as we put the Issue 5 yard sign, left by the Spider, out of its misery. ]]> Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:16:59 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18191&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18191 McNeill's letter on school levy : Criteria,be a Citizen of Middletown... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18188&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18188 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Apr 12 2010 at 12:11pm

Criteria, be a Citizen of Middletown and live in the 1st Ward and of age, not much else to require.  So SJ you gonna throw your your hat in for the Council Seat and make a difference?  Can't think of many others, if any with your knowledge of the city and all the different hats you have worn for the city over the years.  SJ time to step up and REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.Thumbs%20Up ]]> Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:11:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18188&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18188 McNeill's letter on school levy : OK- Spider...here goes..... Jolivette-... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18186&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18186 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 12 2010 at 11:49am

OK- Spider...here goes.....

Jolivette- nope- had his chances- not happy with the nepotism and the hiring of his family members. Also have an issue with him that goes back to the 80's when he and Joe Statser were at my house during the 4th of July parade, having a strategy meeting and later, I found out why he switched partys. Never cared for the man after that.

Nenni- already discussed

Carpenter- Her responses in the candidate forum were canned and had absolutely no substance at all. Not a good selection for our county.

Alverez- Too much West Chester in him. Probably doesn't know where Middletown is. Forget him as to helping us up north. He would probably turn out to be no different than what we have now and that's unacceptable.

Von Stein- Too green. Just a "common man' he says. Tell me more about your ideas for the county.

Wes Retherford- He wants the best person for the job. He wants to eliminate nepotism in Hamilton. No more hiring family, Jolly. I'd probably vote for him, but I want to know more.

As soon as Furmon is done with his time on commission, he needs to go also. He and Jolivette are the two problem children on commission. JMO

Yeah, what about that empty council seat? When are they suppose to make the decision? How much longer do they wait to fill Mr. Armbruster's seat and what is the criteria for choosing the replacement?

]]> Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:49:57 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18186&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18186 McNeill's letter on school levy : Spider: I have no plans to write... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18183&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18183 Author: MerrellWood
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Posted: Apr 12 2010 at 9:34am

Spider: I have no plans to write anything on the school levy issue. My interest's are to gather support in the
public & private sector to eventually succeed with the "Computers for Kids" campaign I've proposed.



]]> Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:34:46 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18183&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18183 McNeill's letter on school levy : Vet--who is YOUR choice from the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18182&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18182 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Apr 12 2010 at 6:55am

Vet--who is YOUR choice from the county commission mix?
Who and why?
Paul Nenni is the only local running I believe.
 
So Mr.Kidd-- was that a YES on a yard sign?
I should have these up in Vet's and Mike's yards 2day!!
 
Who takes the empy Council seat?
Seems Mr.Barge should get a chance since he was the only person interested enough to file and run for it.
I seriously doubt that it will be Mr.P or SJ, though a wonderful opportunity to shift the balance around for a while. If that were to happen, people might actually like the results!
]]> Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:55:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18182&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18182 McNeill's letter on school levy : Mike- I couldn't recall any... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18181&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18181 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 12 2010 at 6:49am

Mike- I couldn't recall any positive things that he achieved while on the city commission (or council) whatever it was called at the time. I do remember his demeanor and approach moreso than his actual activities. Yes, there is a certain amount of irony in him wanting to abolish the wards in town and create a similar situation at the county level. You say that he had his input on the downtown area also through Crossroads 2000 and you imply that he had business friends that he allegedly tried to help in the downtown area also? If true, do we really want a guy who wants to "come in the back door" representing us here in northern Butler County? Would he be that effective in getting us some recognition here in Middletown, since we have been ignored by Hamilton for so long?

Off the subject, but speaking of getting us some recognition here in Middletown........what's the deal with Gary Cates? He shows up at alot of Middletown meetings. I remember seeing him at the meeting at Highview Elementary the night the school board and council had their joint meeting and got into it a little over what Section 8 was doing to the schools. He just sat at a table off to the side and "observed". If he's not going to help us, why does he show at so many events here in town? Wonder if he knows all the crap that is going on in town? Or....if he cares? Seems fairly worthless as to him providing help for the city, doesn't he?]]> Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:49:28 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18181&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18181 McNeill's letter on school levy : Vet: Also, Let's not forget... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18177&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18177 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Apr 11 2010 at 8:19pm

Vet: Also, Let's not forget that Nenni, while on the most recent Charter Review Committee, was one of the biggest proponents of abolishing the "WARD System" in Middletown, claiming that it was divisivse and led to inefficient government.  Now he wants to do just the OPPOSITE and institute a WARD System into County Government, using exactly the opposite arguments that he used to abolish it in Middletown!!! ]]> Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:19:42 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18177&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18177 McNeill's letter on school levy : VietVet wrote:Nenni????...... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18176&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18176 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Apr 11 2010 at 8:14pm

Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:

Nenni????... Can't remember back that far. Someone with a better memory refresh me on his accomplishments while on Council. ...
Vet,
Well, he DID vote to spend $13 MILLION of the taxpayers' money on "CROSSROADS 2000", version 1.9947 of "Olde Tyme Down Towne" to bring back "the sizzle" for his buddies the good people of Middletown.
 
(NOTE:  Now they are getting ready to foist version 1.9952 on us.)
]]> Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:14:50 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18176&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18176 McNeill's letter on school levy : acclaro wrote:Mike, I am... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2904&PID=18175&title=mcneills-letter-on-school-levy#18175 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Apr 11 2010 at 8:04pm

Originally posted by acclaro acclaro wrote:

Mike, I am not certain I have read your statement correct. You are suggesting Mr. McNeil made a convincing argument? ...

This levy should fail, and the argument is not convincing. ...

Vet,

First, let me point out that I have refrained from expressing an opinion--either FOR or AGAINST--the Issue 5 levy up to this point. I have only been trying to get the TRUTH out into the open. (For example, please recall my lengthy exchange with Ms. Andrew wherein we debated whether or not the tax RATE could increase under the proposed levy and she finally stated: “Also yes, the tax rate for the fixed amount levy could fluctuate slightly, …”. I still contend that the tax RATE could rise as much as 4% per year under certain conditions, and I can cite sections of the Ohio Revised Code that support this position.) I chose not to quibble over her choice of the phrase “fluctuate slightly” to describe this possibility.

Next, I must agree with you that I have NOT found convincing arguments that include vague phrases such as "continuous improvement" or "significant progress". However, I do want to reach the truth. But whenever we try to get someone to explain exactly what such vague phrases mean, they either fail to reply or they go off on tangents about things such as Middletown's socio-economic status or the unfairness of comparisons of the MCSD to other nearby districts. These tangents may be reasonable arguments for some of the "failures" of our district, but the do NOTHING to explain the details of "significant progress" that we are being asked to applaud.

Since I want to get at the TRUTH, I ask Mr. McNeill to ENUMERATE the EXACT. SPECIFIC items OF "SPECIFIC PROGRESS" that have been made so that I (and the rest of the electorate) can make a rational decision at the ballot box.

If there has been "significant progress" of which I am not aware, I want to know about it, and I am sure that you would like to know as well. Since I am aware of none, it behooves one of those, such as Mr. McNeill, who declare that it exists to clearly explain it to us.

Failure to do so would be a serious dereliction of their civic duty, and the failure of this levy will then rest on their shoulders!!!

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