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   <title>Wow just wow! : Bo - I think everyone may have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;28&nbsp;2010 at 5:09pm<br /><br /><strong>Bo - I think everyone may have tunnel vision on trying to figure out my point.<DIV></DIV>&nbsp;<DIV></DIV>I can't simplify it further, so the question stands, How do they know ? And by the way,I looked at the DHS (Department of Homeland Security) web site to see how they come up with the numbers,you know the line in Forrest Gump where he says,"Stupid is as stupid does",well it applies to Homeland Security and the IDIOTS who run it.</strong>]]>
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   <title>Wow just wow! : Hermes its real,I dont get where...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=313">Bocephus</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 4:49pm<br /><br />Hermes its real,I dont get where you are coming from at all are you trying to blow the issue off like its not really there? Just look at the big response from illegals last weekend when over 400 showed up in Hamilton to get the Id cards that the mexican government was passing out.Thats 400+ jobs that Americans could use not to mention all the free benefits the illegals are sucking up,and oh yea that 400 wouldnt include the illegals in the area that are not mexicans.]]>
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   <title>Wow just wow! : The problem with Illegal Immigration...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=303">lrisner</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 12:49pm<br /><br />The problem with Illegal Immigration is that BOTH Parties secretly like it. The last amnesty was in 1986 under George HW Bush, Republican President.<br><br>The Dems like the fact that most Illegals will vote Liberal and the GOP likes the cheap Labor.<br><br>As to tracking, unless we all want a Police State, that is not going to happen. The answer lies in punishing Employers that employ Illegals. We have to use common sense and quit letting them off the hook for any lame excuse. When Koch Foods was raided and found to have 160 illegals out of 180 employees, common sense would have told us that they knew what they doing. Instead the Government let them plead ignorance and then fined them 500K, a paltry sum given the money that they saved exploiting the illegals all those years.<br><br>Make it a Felon and put some Corp Execs in Jail and it will stop.<br>]]>
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   <title>Wow just wow! : Pac - I had read about the rancher...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 11:25am<br /><br /><strong>Pac - I had read about the rancher that was murdered,thats pretty sad.<DIV></DIV>&nbsp;<DIV></DIV>I don't dispute the fact that illegals are in country...what I dispute is the number. Now if the number of illegals comes from the number deported &amp; arrested then no problem, but thats not what the politicians are saying. And reference my previous postings...how does anyone come up with 10-30 million ?? And if they know it to be a fact,and I seriously doubt that,then someone should lose his/her job and go to prison ! Because they did not do their job to stop and arrest/deport these alleged illegals. Plus as you said if they garner the numbers from social programs,education etc,etc then these people should go to prison too because they let illegals into the school system,gave them social benefits,etc etc. There is something amiss here, none of what they are saying makes any sense. I'm not defending the illegals,I believe if caught they should be deported,but there is no way anyone can come up with a number of illegals unless that number is nothing more than a guess or based on the one's who were caught and even then if 5 million are caught and they claim the number is 20 million then someone is insane. And if the number is taken country wide from police,ICE &amp; sheriff's departments who have arrested illegals and if that number totals 20 million for example that were arrested then problem solved,but thats not whats happening. Bottom line,IMO,since illegals are not registered with social security,immigration,license bureau,etc etc there is no way,absolutely no way of knowing exactly how many illegals are in country. So the number of 10-30 million is either to low or to high because they have no idea and do not have the balls to say so and or the government has an agenda thats being kept from the public. </strong>]]>
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   <title>Wow just wow! : Hermes you count them.   </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 9:54am<br /><br />Hermes you count them.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ctrLrhrXB1M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></DIV>]]>
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   <title>Wow just wow! : Hermes I seriously doubt it is...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 9:46am<br /><br />Hermes I seriously doubt it is a farce as the affects can be seen most widely in our Social Programs, education, healthcare, prisons, etc..&nbsp; There also may be less than the number that is bantered around which is 10-30 Million.&nbsp; The Obama admin uses about 8-12 Million I believe under the assumption that many returned to Mexico when the economy went south.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The Newt Video is about 3-4 years old made back during the Bush Term.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It must also be noted that while most come from Central and South American, some also come from other countries.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>This gentlemen didn't think it was a farce and now he is <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>dead</FONT></strong> killed by Illegals crossing the border.</DIV><DIV><iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/spsosucWAoQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Wow just wow! :   Nick_Kidd wrote:  Is it just...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 8:39am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Nick_Kidd" alt="Originally posted by Nick_Kidd" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Nick_Kidd wrote:</strong><br /><br /><I><FONT color=#800000 size=5 face=Tahoma> <P>Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that during the mad cow epidemic our government could track a single cow, born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the stall where she slept in the state of Washington? And, they tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate&nbsp;30 million illegal aliens wandering around our country. Maybe we should give each of them a cow. <U><BR></P></I></U></FONT></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>&nbsp;<DIV><strong><FONT size=3>Don't believe everything your government tells you. Just like immigration,this too was no doubt a farce. Just like swine flu,sure some people got it and some died but it was no where near the alleged epidemic that they claimed. A disclaimer and warning should be required of everything the government &amp; WHO puts out.</FONT></strong></DIV>]]>
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   <title>Wow just wow! : Even Newt claims 10-20 million...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 8:35am<br /><br /><strong>Even Newt claims 10-20 million illegals in country....but what none of them can explain apperantly is HOW DO THEY KNOW ?? And like Newt says ship them a package,how can you ship a package to an illegal if YOU HAVE NO IDEA THEY ARE ILLEGAL &amp; DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE TO ARREST THEM ??!!! <DIV></DIV>&nbsp;<DIV></DIV>I'm telling you folks,this immigration thing is a farce. </strong>]]>
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   <title>Wow just wow! : Agree totally with your last post,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=625">High Speed Rail??</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 8:07am<br /><br /><P>Agree totally with your last post, Nick.</P><DIV>Just yesterday I was talking with Miss Vivian about the efforts you two have made trying to bring the secrecy of the City's infamous Sewer Fund to the light of day.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I hope that you're doing fine and keep shooting those cannon balls across the bow of the not-so-good Ship Gilliland.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3074<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 6:11am<br /><br /><iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/15D3ElV1Jzw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> ]]>
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