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Middletown Forum : Section 8 Report 6/10 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Section 8 Report 6/10 Wed, 07 Oct 2026 06:17:26 +0000 Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:56:33 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3085 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Section 8 Report 6/10 : Well Vet, if anyone can get him... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19739&title=section-8-report-6-10#19739 Author: randy
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 1:56pm

Well Vet, if anyone can get him to answer a phone call or an email please let me now. Becker is one of the reason we are in this boat, just one of many. But, you cant ask him beacuse he wont talk to you...he is above us. ]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:56:33 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19739&title=section-8-report-6-10#19739 Section 8 Report 6/10 : If Bill Becker served as city... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19738&title=section-8-report-6-10#19738 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 1:51pm

If Bill Becker served as city manager in 2004-05 until 2007, and the ramp up came during this time, what does Mr. Becker have to say as to the reasons for the ramp up? Has he ever been asked why or when asked, avoided giving an answer? Haven't heard any explanation from him as to why this happened under his watch. Anyone?

randy- Mr. Becker was our esteemed police chief at one time, giving years of public service to Middletown. Now, given that, wonder what the officers, detectives and others thought about working for him during that time. Would tell you something about the character of the man, hearing from his subordinates. No one around anymore that would elaborate on this I guess. Seems a bit full of himself at times by his demeanor. Seems a bit "distant" from people. Might be wrong.

Keeps getting elected (or selected- emergency director) for these positions. Name recognition I guess. Certainly not job performance while serving on council. Can't imagine that has impressed many people. Does seem a tad bit disinterested sitting up there at times, doesn't he?]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:51:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19738&title=section-8-report-6-10#19738 Section 8 Report 6/10 : The section 8 numbers in Middletown... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19736&title=section-8-report-6-10#19736 Author: randy
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 1:48pm

The section 8 numbers in Middletown are sickening, I will give credit where credit is due and Mr. Adkins is at least making an attempt to right the wrongs of past city leaders.

I think what gets under my skin the most is the lack of interest shown by Becker and the Mayor and now Picard to have these problems addressed. Lets be honest here, Becker was the city manger for a while and the number of vouchers went up unchecked. Now he site there on City Council with out a care in the world as to how or why it should be fixed.

The People of Middletown should be ashamed of electing such a person to that seat. Someone, anyone name onething he has done to help Middletown??

]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:48:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19736&title=section-8-report-6-10#19736 Section 8 Report 6/10 : Allow me to present my "pessimistic"... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19733&title=section-8-report-6-10#19733 Author: Hermes
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 12:58pm

Allow me to present my "pessimistic" view of WHY the number of vouchers escalated. (And this is only theory because I don't know of any other logical explanation for the increase)

1. The increase happened because a lot of money was to be made

2. I seriously believe kickbacks from landlords played a very big part and or the city received secret money to take on all the section 8.

Do I see crooks behind every tree ? No....just every other tree. The explanation of just filling vacant houses sounds more like an excuse than a logical reason. Do I trust career politicians ? No.

If anyone has better & more logical reasons please feel free to post.
]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:58:59 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19733&title=section-8-report-6-10#19733 Section 8 Report 6/10 : High one of the Reports I read... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19732&title=section-8-report-6-10#19732 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 12:47pm

High one of the Reports I read stated that the big run up in vouchers occurred between 2004-5 to 2007. I will see if I can dig it up again.

]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:47:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19732&title=section-8-report-6-10#19732 Section 8 Report 6/10 : I was just curious about the Cemetery... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19731&title=section-8-report-6-10#19731 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 12:38pm

I was just curious about the Cemetery saw it in the City Mangers report this morning, was just wondering if they are going to fix the Vault. ]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:38:50 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19731&title=section-8-report-6-10#19731 Section 8 Report 6/10 : Packman - Bill Becker retired... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19730&title=section-8-report-6-10#19730 Author: High Speed Rail??
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 12:31pm

Packman -

Bill Becker retired as City Manager in January 2007. I believe that he served in that capacity for part of 2004 and all of 2005 and 2006.

The escalation of Section 8 units occurred between 2000 and 2005. I thought that you'd want to know.

Regarding the Historic Cemetery, why don't you give Vivian Moon a call. She will gladly answer your questions.

]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:31:50 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19730&title=section-8-report-6-10#19730 Section 8 Report 6/10 : In 2000, there were 767 Section... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19729&title=section-8-report-6-10#19729 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 12:15pm

In 2000, there were 767 Section 8 units. In 2004, council capped the number of housing units. By 2007, there were 1662.

]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:15:38 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19729&title=section-8-report-6-10#19729 Section 8 Report 6/10 : Yes, you're right swohio75,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19727&title=section-8-report-6-10#19727 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 11:46am

Yes, you're right swohio75, but then again, she is the captain of the ship in this town and as such, is responsible for the overall activity. She chose to be a city manager and when you play the role of "CEO", you accept criticism that may or may not be of your own choosing.

You are correct.... to her credit, in the beginning, she did suggest dropping CONSOC and moving it to the housing authority when the three councilmembers you mentioned were here. But Marconi, Armbruster and Schiavone have been gone for awhile. Have you heard of any attempts from her as to a new approach with a new group of councilmembers? I haven't. Perhaps the Adkins report is the start of her attempt at changing this program for the better. I hope so. The Section 8 fiasco is just the tip of the iceberg for me and what she has done since her arrival. IMO, it has not been a performance anywhere close to a satisfactory rating and she is one of several contributors toward this town's potential demise. Look at what she has condoned from Robinette's department toward inactivity, Kohler's agenda of selective business attraction and the downward spiral of the city in general. It is shameful and they are shameless. JMO]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:46:27 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19727&title=section-8-report-6-10#19727 Section 8 Report 6/10 : VietVet wrote:Mercy! And how's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3085&PID=19725&title=section-8-report-6-10#19725 Author: swohio75
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Posted: Jun 30 2010 at 10:48am

VietVet wrote:

Mercy! And how's that Section 8 program working out for you now, Gilleland and company?

Gilleland is hardly to blame for Middletown's Section 8 issue. It was alive and well when she arrived. And she has done nothing but try address it since becoming city manager. Remember how she recommended to Council to drop CONSCO? Remember how several former Council members--Schiavone, Marconi, Armbruster--wanted CONSCO to remain (If it ain't broke don't fix it was one of quotes I believe). She wanted to move everything over to BMPHA. And one of her direct reports--Doug Aktins--puts together a very comprehensive report detailing the issues and making siginifcant changes to the program.

She reports to Council and must take her direction from them, even if she believes its not the right thing to do.

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