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   <title>Section 8 Housing Report : Just out of curiosity where would...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=358">wasteful</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 10:59am<br /><br />Just out of curiosity where would this "outside the city limits" be located?]]>
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   <title>Section 8 Housing Report : VetPlease watch the last meeting...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 9:49am<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Vet<BR>Please watch the last meeting and listen very carefully at what was said and not said. Remember the reduction of 800 vouchers.<BR>They are NOT taking about REDUCTION they are now talking about the City building new public housing outside the city limits and moving some (very few) of the vouchers, Sooo you must ask who will benefit from this land deal? Who owns land outside of </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Middletown</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">? Do you really believe that </SPAN><ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Trenton</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> and other areas will welcome the City of </SPAN><ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Middletown</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></FONT><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> building Section 8 Units in their back yards? <BR>Keep your eye on this money deal…Big money to be made on this government funded project.<BR>Also notice that Mr. Hurst stated that the entire program will now be web based…sooo we will now loose more jobs in </SPAN><ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Middletown</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></FONT><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> because the local CONSOC office will close. <BR>I will also bet that this time next year you will find out that the cost of this program operated by Nelson will be the same as CONSOC and we will have the same number of vouchers.<BR>Yep…the CASH COW is still alive and well in </SPAN><ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Middletown</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><FONT size=3>.</P><DIV></FONT><BR><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>]]>
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   <title>Section 8 Housing Report : From the Journal article &amp;#034;Area...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;26&nbsp;2010 at 9:06am<br /><br />From the Journal article "Area residents thankful for many things"- 11/25/10........Steve Hightower, a local businessman and a supporter of the Dream Center, said, “the people who really need it is what keeps me close to it. It’s amazing the amount of poverty we’ve got in this community.” This, coming from an acknowledged prominent business man, recognized for the awards and accomplishments he has achieved. He has recognized the poverty. Why can't city hall see the light? Ironic observation, since the city leaders, past and present, created this poverty climate for the city. Another indictment on the "welfare town" theme they have created. Shameful.<br /><br />His mother, Jennifer, said people could eat their meals there or take them home. Many of them also left with some food to eat later. “That’s the rule. You can’t leave here without a plate,” she said. “You’d be surprised about the number of people who don’t have anywhere to go (for a Thanksgiving meal).”<br /><br />The economy is certainly a major player in contributing to the poverty and desperation, but the city did us no favors in saturating the city with people who are on the edge either.]]>
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   <title>Section 8 Housing Report : Miss Vivian -   How sad that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=377">Nelson Self</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;29&nbsp;2010 at 10:26am<br /><br />Miss Vivian - <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>How sad that the&nbsp;public is mostly uninformed as to&nbsp;how the Community Revitalization Department&nbsp;is spending $400,000+ allocated by HUD for the HOME Program for the 2010-2111 Program Year that began on June 1, 2010.&nbsp; Since $80,000 is being utilized for the Battered Women's Shelter on Girard, do we have any idea as to how and where&nbsp;the other $320,000 is being spent?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>It was only 18 months&nbsp;ago when DETAILED&nbsp;budgetary and other information on&nbsp;the HOME and CDBG Programs was presented via PowerPoint&nbsp;at two required public hearings held by City Council.&nbsp; Once the resolution to file said applications was granted City Council, applications were then sent to HUD - Columbus Field Office no later than the respective April 15th deadlines.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Similarly, until the latter part of 2008 the City of Middletown once had a geographically, vocationally and ethnically diverse HUD Consolidated Planning&nbsp;Advisory Committee that was subsequently scrapped by certain&nbsp;senior City staff.&nbsp; This 13-member body had FULL ACCESS to proposed budgetary and programmatic information PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL SUBMISSION.&nbsp; Paul Renwick, Bert Grimes, Walter Leap, Rosa Lean Lindsey, Dr. Mitchell Foster, Wanda Glover, Chris Amburgey, etc. were active participants.&nbsp; The present so-called Committee has a much lesser role and is apparently selected by Miss Judy and Doug.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Only until the City of Middletown has legitimate transparent and accountable governance will any of us really know what now goes on at One Donham Plaza.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=377">Nelson Self</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;29&nbsp;2010 at 9:53am<br /><br />Miss Vivian -<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Is it really true that One Donham Plaza senior staff are contemplating hiring a consultant attorney to handle this complex matter?</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;29&nbsp;2010 at 9:24am<br /><br /><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><DIV><EM><strong>Below is HUD's response to the 96 page City of Middletown's&nbsp;Section 8 Analysis.</strong></EM><BR><BR><P =CM11 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 39pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Attachment <?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Set forth below are direct quotes from the report along with HUD's clarification and/or correction: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">SECTION 8 ANALYSIS REPORT: </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD's first point regarding reduction of vouchers was that they would not seriously consider a reduction of voucher levels while the City maintains a local preference for </SPAN></I><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></I></st1:place></st1:City><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> residents. Said another way, it 's hard to argue that you want less vouchers when you specifically target giving new vouchers to people living in the City. HUD stated that the local preference for </SPAN></I><st1:City><st1:place><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></I></st1:place></st1:City><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> residents must be removed before any further discussion about reduction of vouchers would occur. </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">When we discussed the possibility of partial voucher transfers, HUD referred us to HUD Notice PIH 2007-06 (HA), issued on </SPAN></I><st1:date M&#111;nth="3" Day="7" Year="2007"><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">March </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">7, </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">2007</SPAN></I></st1:date><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">. Although this Notice lists a 2009 expiration date, HUD still operates under this Notice. In Paragraph </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">3: <I>Eligibility, the Notice states that "All transfers of vouchers must be total permanent divestitures of one PHA's HCV program to one or more receiving PHA's. The Department </I></SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">will </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">not approve voluntary partial transfers unless there is a substantiated compelling reason. (Emphasis added) The transfer must be between PHA's within the same metropolitan area, within the same non-metropolitan county, or within the same state where HCV program administration </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">is </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">voluntarily shifted from a city or county PHA to its state PHA or from a state PHA to one or more of its county or city PHA 's." </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM12 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD's reliance upon a "substantiated compelling reason " started the staff process that lead to the creation of this report. </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">If </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">a substantiated compelling reason is required to transfer vouchers and HUD won't permit partial transfers while the City remains high in poverty, what else could be used as a compelling reason to gain HUD approval? </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD RESPONSE: At no time did HUD officials make statements concerning reduction of vouchers relative to the City's local preference for </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> residents. HUD's discussion with city staff centered upon deconcentrating poverty by expanding MPHA's jurisdictional boundaries from its current city limits (if legally pennissible) to include all of Butler County, reconsidering local preferences, consideration of higher payment standards in non-impacted areas in Butler County and reviewing the rent reasonableness system to ensure rental rates are accurately measured. It was suggested that this be reviewed in consultation with the Butler Metropolitan Housing Authority ("BMHA"). MPHA currently administers the program in the City of </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> and families are ported to BMHA should the families choose to move outside of the city but within </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Butler</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> </SPAN><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">County</SPAN></st1:place></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">. An expansion of MPHA's boundaries would end the current portability arrangement and result in BMHA and MPHA co-existing within the county. This arrangement exists with Panna MHA and Cuyahoga MHA and fonnerly existed with Hamilton and Cincinnati MHA. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD Notice 2007-6, "Process for Public Housing Agency Voluntary Transfers of Housing Choice Vouchers, Project-Based Vouchers and Project-Based Certificates" issued </SPAN><st1:date M&#111;nth="3" Day="7" Year="2007"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">March 7, 2007</SPAN></st1:date><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> does spell out the process for the pennanent transfer of a Housing Choice Voucher Program to another PHA. As noted in the report the transfer must be between PHA's within the same </SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">7 </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">metropolitan area, within the same non-metropolitan county, or within the same state where HCV program administration is voluntarily shifted. The Notice goes on to state that "The Department will not approve voluntary partial transfers unless there is a substantiated compelling reason". The Notice does not define substantiated compelling reason but in its limited use thus far, it has not been the intent to reduce the number of vouchers that serve a community's needy households. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM12 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown should not act in anticipation that such a transfer request would be granted when the sole purpose is to reduce housing assistance to those in need in Middletown. Currently MPHA has around 1,500 families being served by the program as well as a lengthy waiting list. A partial or total transfer of the program to another PHA would not necessarily result in a reduction in the families served by the program but rather a change in administration of the program to another PHA. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">SECTION 8 ANALYSIS REPORT: <I>HUD's next point was that </I></SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">if </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">we operated our program similar to the Parma program, we would keep all vouchers active, provide service to over 1600 low income families, be compliant with HUD program requirements, retain administrative income from the vouchers, execute the Master Plan objectives, and still achieve the reduction of vouchers within the City that we seek. </SPAN></I><st1:City><st1:place><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Parma</SPAN></I></st1:place></st1:City><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> has </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">57 </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">active vouchers within the City limits for 80,000 residents. HUD stated that until we utilize the regulations to reduce vouchers being used within the City, they would not seriously consider a reduction in voucher levels. Said another way, HUD stated that we must "help ourselves with all of the regulatory tools available, and then </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">if </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">you still have problems, come talk to us again. " </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM12 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD RESPONSE: HUD's discussion about </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Parma</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> operating within a larger jurisdiction with the ability of its participants to lease throughout the County was not in the context of HUD agreeing that </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> should seek to reduce voucher holders, but rather that poverty deconcentration might be furthered by broadening jurisdiction and choice. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">In </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">addition, statements in the report seem to indicate that </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Parma</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> is typical of city programs and is one of the only other city programs in the nation. </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Parma</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> is not typical -it was created by a federal desegregation court order. Many hundreds of municipal housing agencies are in operation across the nation. </SPAN><st1:State><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Michigan</SPAN></st1:place></st1:State><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">, for example, is one state with predominantly municipal housing agencies, and most vouchers are used within the City's boundaries. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">SECTION 8 ANALYSIS REPORT: <I>Staff recommends reducing the payment standard to 90% of FMR within the City of </I></SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></I></st1:place></st1:City><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> and setting the payment standard at 100% outside of the City ofMiddletown. </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><FONT size=3>HUD RESPONSE: MPHA's payment standards are currently set at 100% of the FMR. In accordance with 24 CFR 982.505 9(c) (3) when the payment standard amount is decreased during the term of the HAP contract, the lower payment standard amount generally must be used to calculate the monthly housing assistance payment for the family beginning at the effective date of the family's second regular reexamination following the effective date of the decrease in the payment standard amount. Movers and new admissions within the city would be effected </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">8 </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">immediately; however, payment standard amounts for families under HAP contracts cannot be reduced until the second reexamination. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD does monitor rent burdens of families assisted by the program and can require a PHA to increase payment standard amounts within the basic range when 40% or more of families occupying a particular unit size pay more than 30% of monthly adjusted income as the family share. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">It </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">may well be that one payment standard within </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> is not appropriate particularly if it is reduced. A geographic payment standard for different parts of </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> can be set to tailor it to the market areas of the City. But if the City is lowering the payment standard for the sole purpose of eliminating the ability of units to be leased in Middletown, as seems to be the case, this would be directly counter to the program's intent and HUD this will closely monitor rent burden and success rates and will direct the City to increase the payment standard if appropriate. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM12 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">In addition, if use of vouchers outside </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> is done through portability, then </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">'s payment standard is not used; the receiving PHA's payment standards are used. For example, if a </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> participant ports to </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Warren</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> </SPAN><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">County</SPAN></st1:PlaceName></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">, Warren MHA's payment standard is used. If </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> continues to administer its program only in the City and a </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> participant ports to an area within </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Butler</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> </SPAN><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">County</SPAN></st1:place></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> then BMHA's payment standard is used. </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> cannot set a payment standard for an area outside of which it does not execute HAP contracts. If </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> chose to operate throughout </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Butler</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> </SPAN><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">County</SPAN></st1:place></st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">, then it could set a payment standard for that area. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">SECTION 8 ANALYSIS REPORT: <I>Under the MPHA Current Administrative Plan, Section XVI/(d): The dwelling unit shall be in compliance with HUD lead based paint regulations, 24 CFR, Part </I></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">35, </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">issued pursuant to the Lead Based Paint Poisoning Prevention Act, </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">42 </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">USC 28001, and owner shall provide a certification that the dwelling is in accordance with such HUD regulations. </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Recommended Changes: </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">The current plan language does little to document compliance with HUD regulations and/or </SPAN></I><st1:State><st1:place><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Ohio</SPAN></I></st1:place></st1:State><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> lead based paint law. From a compliance standpoint and a policy standpoint, MPHA should expand the requirements for lead based paint compliance. As discussed above, this issue impacts almost 19000 housing units in </SPAN></I><st1:City><st1:place><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></I></st1:place></st1:City><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">, occupied primarily by low income families. We document compliance with all of our other HUD programs, and we need do so here as well. MPHA will require that a lead based paint risk assessment be completed for any housing units constructed prior to </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">1978 </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">before HQS inspections are scheduled. </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">If</SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">lead based paint </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">is </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">discovered on assessment, the owner must abate each lead based paint suiface before commencement of assistance. If the unit </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">is </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">already occupied, the abatement must be completed within </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">30 </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">days of notification to the owner. </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">If </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">the owner does not complete the abatement, the unit </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">is </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">in violation of HQS standards until the reduction </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">is </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">complete and no HAP payments will be made until the abatement </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">is </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">complete and a passing lead based paint clearance </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">is </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">submitted to the PHA. </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><FONT size=3>HUD RESPONSE: The Housing Choice Voucher Program is subject to the following subparts of 24 CPR Part 35: Subpart </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">A, </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><FONT size=3>Disclosure; Subpart B, General Lead-Based Paint Requirements </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">9 </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">and Definitions for All Programs; Subpart M, Tenant-Based Rental Assistance; and Subpart R, Methods and Standards for Performing Lead Hazard Evaluation and Reduction Activities. Lead based paint performance requirements are included as part of the Housing Quality Standards ("HQS") inspections and must be met before a unit can be assisted or continue to be assisted where the unit and family are subjected to these requirements. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">MPHA is proposing to require a risk assessment for any housing unit constructed prior to 1978 before the HQS inspection. If lead based paint is discovered on assessment, the owner must abate each lead based paint surface before commencement of assistance. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">The changes to the HQS inspection process and HUD lead based paint requirements that MPHA is proposing to implement far exceed the requirements required by the regulations. HUD regulations exempt certain units from lead based paint requirements. Exempt units include units where a child under the age of six does not reside or is not expected to reside as well as efficiency units and Single Room Occupancy ("SRO") units. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">In </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">addition, in the HCY program, risk assessments are only required where a child has been identified as having an environmental intervention blood lead level. To implement the changes that MPHA is proposing to require as part of HQS inspections would involve a variation to the HQS acceptability criteria and require HUD approval as provided in 24 CFR 982.401 (a) (4) (i). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM12 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Be advised that this office would not entertain such a proposal as it would severely restrict housing choice. Roughly 75% of rental occupied housing in </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> would be impacted by such a change. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">SECTION 8 ANALYSIS REPORT: </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">For units constructed prior to </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">1978, </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">owners must complete and submit the MPHA Lead Paint Owner's Certification, Housing Choice Voucher Program as part of the Request for Tenancy Approval (RTA). The lead based paint inspector must be licensed by the State of </SPAN></I><st1:State><st1:place><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Ohio</SPAN></I></st1:place></st1:State><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">, and failure to supply the inspectors credentials and the completed Certification will be considered an incomplete RTA for purposes of review. Staff recommends that the following Certification be adopted by MPHA as part of the Request for Tenancy Approval process to fully document lead based paint compliance. </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM12 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD RESPONSE: The form being proposed for use would incorporate standards that exceed HQS, as stated above, which this office will not consider. The referenced forms in the HUD Guidebook are only for units where a risk assessment is required, i.e. where a child is determined to have had an elevated blood lead level -not for all units. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">SECTION 8 ANALYSIS REPORT: </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><FONT size=3>While the City does not employ a rental registration ordinance to regulate rental units, having a City Building Inspector perform initial inspections is advantageous in three ways. First, the timing, paperwork and other problems being experienced with initial inspections would be alleviated by direct scheduling between Consoc and the City on these inspections. Second, the inspector is a certified lead based paint risk assessor by the State of Ohio and this serves as a quality control check that proper lead based paint inspections are being performed and paperwork is being turned in with the Request for Tenancy Approval for </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">10 </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">new units. Finally, the inspector is also trained on inspecting to the standards in the International Property Maintenance Code, the local property code. Under </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">24 </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">CFR </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">§ </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">982.306(c)(6), the PHA may deny approval of an assisted tenancy when the owner has a history or practice of renting units that fail to meet State or local housing codes. Utilizing the City's code enforcement software, the inspector can run a report of prior violations by any owner or address to determine </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">if </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">such a history or practice exists. Where appropriate, documentation and reporting would be submitted to the program administrator for potential denial of the owner based on past practices. </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD RESPONSE: MPHA is proposing to use the International Property Maintenance Code in conducting its HQS inspections. As noted above, this change to the inspection process would involve a variation to the HQS acceptability criteria and require HUD approval as provided in 24 CFR 982.401 (a) (4) (i). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM12 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">A modification to MPHA's HQS inspections using portions of the International Property Maintenance Code was approved by this office in 2002. Any further modifications would require HUD approval. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM7 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">SECTION 8 ANALYSIS REPORT: </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Local Preferences </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">&#091;24 </SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">CFR 982.207; HCV</SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">p. </SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">4-16J </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM10 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 13.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">The PHA is permitted to establish local preferences and to give priority to serving families that meet those criteria. HUD specifically authorizes and places restrictions on certain types of local preferences. HUD also permits the PHA to establish other local preferences, at its discretion. Any local preferences established must be consistent with the PHA plan and the consolidated plan, and must be based on local housing needs and priorities that can be documented by generally accepted data sources. </SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM12 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 27.35pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.65pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">HUD RESPONSE: Changes to the occupancy policies and preferences will require a modification to the 2010 PHA Plan submitted to this office. MPHA may not adopt the modification until a meeting of the Board of Commissioners/City Council is held and the meeting at which the modification is adopted is open to the public. Additionally, the modifications cannot be implemented until notification of the modification is provided to HUD and approved by HUD in accordance with the review procedures provided in 24 CFR 903.23 . <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =CM4 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">SECTION 8 ANALYSIS REPORT: </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><FONT size=3>The City has supported Hope House for years. We are utilizing HOME funds in 2010 to assist with $80,000 in renovations for the new Women's Shelter on Girard. The shelter will be a transitional shelter for </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">3-6 </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><FONT size=3>months to allow victims of domestic violence the opportunity to safely get away from their abuser and </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">to </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><FONT size=3>rebuild their lives. We have recommended a local preference for victims of domestic violence. We have also recommended a large reduction in vouchers operating within the City. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">If </SPAN><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">it would be appropriate, expanding the number of vouchers in the SRO program would use more of the City of </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"> vouchers in support of victims of domestic violence. It would also mean that fewer vouchers are being used as regular rentals throughout the City. </SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">J J </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P =Ms&#111;normal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">HUD </SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">RESPONSE: The SRO Program is funded by </SPAN><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">HUD </SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia">through the Office of Community and Planning Development. The ACC is separate and apart from the ACC for the Housing Choice Voucher Program. The subsidy is project based and has nothing to do with the Housing Choice Voucher Program. Vouchers are not used in SRO projects</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><BR></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;15&nbsp;2010 at 9:26am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Vivian Moon" alt="Originally posted by Vivian Moon" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Vivian Moon wrote:</strong><br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Pacman<BR>I have now read the Section 8 Report twice.</P><DIV>This is a well written report however....<BR>Why didn’t City Hall do an impact study before they made </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Middletown</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><FONT size=3> into the Section 8 Capital of Ohio?<BR>In my opinion everyone that was involved in this mess should be fired today.<BR>It is evident that City Hall didn’t tell City Council Members the truth about what was going on with this program or they were in on the plan also.<BR>Year after year City Hall didn’t try to correct the problems of the Section 8 Program.<BR>This is a very sad and upsetting report to read.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Ms. Vivian, I agree with you 100%.&nbsp; Although I am not buying that past Councils weren't aware of the Section 8 issue.&nbsp; I also don't think that the Section 8 issue would have come to a head if we on this board had not&nbsp;started talking about it almost 2.5-&nbsp;3 years ago.&nbsp; There are a lot of people that are now aware of this issue from this board, yet refrain from ever posting.&nbsp; The fact that you can contribute to a cities downfall in such a manner and still retain your job I find amazing.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>No city admin.&nbsp; where I have ever lived and that is about 20 different cities would ever take this approach to stabilizing there housing issues.&nbsp; It is just not a practical or sensible action from any standpoint especially economically.&nbsp; Yet they have gotten away with it, buy saying ooopppppppps.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;14&nbsp;2010 at 7:49am<br /><br />agree with pretty much of what was opined by Ms.Moon.<DIV>I congratulate Mr.A for his research and effort on this project, and commend him on having the balls to make his serious, community-changing recommendations.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Ship 25% of the Section 8 to east of I-75, and more business variances west ofr Breiel.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Sign ordinance violations are coming out in droves, though little to none going to violators in the Cin.-Dayton Rd.area and east. Instead those violators are requesting emergency signage variances only for their area(while avoiding similar citation letters). Gow will ED,planning,planning comm. and Council resolve these concerns and actions fairly and constructively?</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Section 8 Housing Report : PacmanI have now read the Section...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;13&nbsp;2010 at 3:58pm<br /><br /><P =Ms&#111;normal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Pacman<BR>I have now read the Section 8 Report twice.</P><DIV>This is a well written report however....<BR>Why didn’t City Hall do an impact study before they made </SPAN><?: prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Middletown</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><FONT size=3> into the Section 8 Capital of Ohio?<BR>In my opinion everyone that was involved in this mess should be fired today.<BR>It is evident that City Hall didn’t tell City Council Members the truth about what was going on with this program or they were in on the plan also.<BR>Year after year City Hall didn’t try to correct the problems of the Section 8 Program.<BR>This is a very sad and upsetting report to read.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Section 8 Housing Report : Vivian I have looked at it. You...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3118<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jul&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 12:13pm<br /><br />Vivian I have looked at it.&nbsp;&nbsp; You don't know where my business is located and who is responsible for what maintenance or upkeep wise.&nbsp;&nbsp; I am confident I have no issues and if I were to have one I would simply cure the issue and move on.&nbsp; I never said that the IPMC didn't apply to my business, but you want to imply that landlords of Section 8 rentals&nbsp;should be exempt from the Laws &amp; Regs.&nbsp;simply so the City can be "Business Friendly" for them only.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I guess the next time the Fire Dept. comes around and finds one of my exit signs batteries is not working and they give me a notice to get it fixed, I should yell, "Business Friendly, Business Friendly".&nbsp; I am sure that will work.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>You know&nbsp;when/if someone ever&nbsp;actually gets hurt in one of these rentals you will be the first to&nbsp;hang every city official in Donham Square at High Noon.&nbsp; </DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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