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Middletown Forum : downtown filth http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : Community Revitalization : downtown filth Mon, 02 Nov 2026 10:41:02 +0000 Tue, 09 Nov 2010 22:26:27 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3205 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ downtown filth : I will reiterate that I am opposed... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=23162&title=downtown-filth#23162 Author: angelababy
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Posted: Nov 09 2010 at 10:26pm

I will reiterate that I am opposed to measures that deprive others of property for the sake of others' selected properties, but I simply want to know how/where/when this has been proposed. ]]> Tue, 09 Nov 2010 22:26:27 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=23162&title=downtown-filth#23162 downtown filth : I agree with you VOR. It wouldn't... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=22703&title=downtown-filth#22703 Author: viper771
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Posted: Oct 27 2010 at 1:37am

I agree with you VOR. It wouldn't hurt to have a decent looking old downtown. I just went to Hamilton for the first time, and that area isn't perfect by any means. But ppl are trying to take care of their houses in 2 historic districts and their downtown is pretty cool.

Besides, not all the houses on s main are in great shape. A lot of the South area of Middletown needs some cleaning up, along with some other parts of town.

]]> Wed, 27 Oct 2010 01:37:05 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=22703&title=downtown-filth#22703 downtown filth : Mike, I think I have asked... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=22693&title=downtown-filth#22693 Author: Voice of Reason
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Posted: Oct 26 2010 at 9:17pm

Mike,

I think I have asked you this before in other topic discussions, but precisely what measures have been proposed that would re-direct the income of others in MIddletown to the owners of the mansions (I assume you are referring to the South Main houses)? If you have answered this already please direct me to that answer.

I find I am in agreement with Mr. Laubach here--MIddletown's downtown doesn't have to strive to be like Boston or Williamsburg, but would it kill us to have a downtown on par with Lebanon or Eaton? This doesn't seem like too much to ask, and in my opinion this would be a worthy goal.

I will reiterate that I am opposed to measures that deprive others of property for the sake of others' selected properties, but I simply want to know how/where/when this has been proposed. So we are in agreement on this matter, but as you may have gathered by now I like to strive for supporting facts in any opinion statement.

]]> Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:17:26 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=22693&title=downtown-filth#22693 downtown filth : You are sooo correct. The entire... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=22677&title=downtown-filth#22677 Author: angelababy
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Posted: Oct 26 2010 at 1:31am

You are sooo correct. The entire downtown area needs a really good soap and water scrub down.]]> Tue, 26 Oct 2010 01:31:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=22677&title=downtown-filth#22677 downtown filth : "Main Street Plan" is... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20748&title=downtown-filth#20748 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Aug 12 2010 at 6:46pm

"Main Street Plan" is a concerted effort by a group of liberals to stand in the way of progress by insisting that all former downtown areas be legislated to return to "Olde Tyme" status as if every town was Williamsburg Virginia or Boston Massachusetts. They want every building "restored" and all commerce prohibited except antique dealing, art galleries, book shops, coffee houses, etc., and "high tea" served to the local illuminati every Saturday afternoon. An occasional buggy works or playhouse is also permitted as long as all blue collar workers leave the area as soon as they clock out.

I almost forgot:

The most important aspect is that all of the above (and especially the modernization of all mansions owned by the local "high society wanna bes") be accomplished using taxpayer funds confiscated from the working poor and middle class.

]]> Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:46:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20748&title=downtown-filth#20748 downtown filth : I'm out of the loop. What... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20705&title=downtown-filth#20705 Author: Rhodes
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Posted: Aug 11 2010 at 3:19pm

I'm out of the loop. What is this "Main Street Project"? I'm afraid to even ask. If there is a link to it on here, somebody please let me know.]]> Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:19:43 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20705&title=downtown-filth#20705 downtown filth : my bad, SWOhio--I believe u r... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20703&title=downtown-filth#20703 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Aug 11 2010 at 1:37pm

my bad, SWOhio--I believe u r correct that the building is still owened by the Thatcher family, and partially leased to Miamu U.

None of which really matters when discussing the months of built-up feces,filth and unkept landscaping.

Two of our primary area "stakeholders", both with deep pockets.

And this is how they maintain their property, while at the same time, asking the city(the taxpayers) to fund 33% of their Main Street Project.

They should be warned and cited for their un-sanitary conditions.

]]> Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:37:39 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20703&title=downtown-filth#20703 downtown filth : Folks, You seem to be forgetting... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20700&title=downtown-filth#20700 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Aug 11 2010 at 12:31pm

Folks,

You seem to be forgetting something!!!

All of those “Main Street Plan” people are also history lovers.

The conditions that you describe are probably exactly how downtown Middletown was back in “the good old days”. Of course, even today the streets are better than they were back in the 1890’s when they were likely covered with horse and oxen manure in addition to being made of mud and stone rubble.

I was actually thinking about this overnight while watching reruns of recent council meetings. One of those meetings had Mr. Laubach speaking so fondly about downtown Middletown’s “history”. There really isn’t anything “historic” about downtown Middletown. It had nothing but muddy roads, crummy roadhouses, cathouses, gin mills, gambling joints, etc., the same as a thousand other river/canal towns of its day. It actually was nothing special.

As far as “arts”, when people like Mr. Sorg decided that they wanted “arts” in Middletown, he and the like-minded people of the day got together and brought “art” to town using THEIR OWN FUNDS!!!

They certainly didn’t “commandeer” art by confiscating the funds of the old and the poor.

And the reason that Mr. Sorg and his friends had the money to do so was because they made wise financial decisions!!!

Mr. Laubach, you said that you are “conflicted”, but you “feel” that we should have this art for the sake of downtown’s “history”, even though NO ONE has shown any facts, figures, projections, actual studies, or anything of the like!!!

We have heard nothing but wishes and dreams. Mr. Laubach, if you and your friends behind the curvy counter “feel” like there should be more art in downtown Middletown to make it like YOU “wish” it would be (but NOT like it EVER actually was) PLEASE, you and the other six form an LLC and do so with your own money, and NOT with that of the taxpayers!!! PLEASE!!!

]]> Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:31:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20700&title=downtown-filth#20700 downtown filth : SpiderJohn, Miss Vivian and Sam-... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20699&title=downtown-filth#20699 Author: Nelson Self
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Posted: Aug 11 2010 at 11:40am

SpiderJohn, Miss Vivian and Sam -

Let's stroll down memory lane by recalling the following:

1) Housing Code Enforcement: Remember early 2009 when Community Revitalization Department staff announced that 2,300+ residential property owners were mailed written notices of their minor to major housing code violations?

2) Downtown Commercial Code Enforcement: Remember the spring of 2009 when Community Revitalization Department staff made more headlines by announcing that they would be conducting a concentrated inspection of "former downtown" commercial properties for violations?

Whatever happened to these Neighborhood Revitalization Department projects? And, what's resulted from these other headline-grabbing announcements?

3) HUD Neighborhood Stabilization Program - Round Two: An application for $19 Million was submitted to HUD that would radically transform Middletown's neighborhoods. This paid consultant/staff application was rejected by HUD not too long ago.

4) Citywide HUD Low- to Moderate-Income Designation: Who can forget Neighborhood Revitalization Department announcing that the entirety of Middletown was now eligible to recieve CDBG slum, blight and assisted housing because of the previously undiscovered 54% rule?

We'll leave other prior headlines regarding the 96-page plan for the reduction of Section 8 (Housing Choice Vouchers) and HUD's 11-page response for another time.

What a City?
]]> Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:40:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20699&title=downtown-filth#20699 downtown filth : SpiderYou are sooo correct.... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3205&PID=20698&title=downtown-filth#20698 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Aug 11 2010 at 11:12am

Spider
You are sooo correct. The entire downtown area needs a really good soap and water scrub down.
It is my understanding that Mr. Thatcher left the bank building to the Middletown Historical Society and that Miami leases only part of the building.

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