http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : A question for Sir Laubach Wed, 07 Oct 2026 10:28:00 +0000 Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:54:00 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3229 http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20928&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20928 Author: Hermes
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 1:54pm

Rhodes - All I have to say to you is this quote which exemplifies my statements above.

 

"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus." Thomas Jefferson]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:54:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20928&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20928 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20927&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20927 Author: Rhodes
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 1:30pm

Hermes, all I have to say to you is "Child, please!"]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:30:13 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20927&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20927 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20921&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20921 Author: Hermes
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 12:49pm

Vet - Good statement as always !  

And I agree that hero is used to often for the reason you state and for the wrong purposes.

But the problem being when a politician creates a mess like Iraq what is the best way to garner public support ? Call everyone a hero ! When the towers fell how did they gain popular support ? Everyone was a hero ! Thats how the cops became hero's,now everyone just over looks the police beatings,frequent tazer incidents,violation of rights because the friggin cops are hero's !!

 

Rhodes - The irony of the original post isn't lost on us. We know exactly what Mr. Saunders is refering to. The irony here lies with those who support the statement made by a man who supported slavery & on the pretext of that man being some great leader of a democracy/republic who sat in his den sipping wine from his vineyard while his slaves did all the work so that he could sit there in a stupor and think up all these great sayings that he knew would be quoted by someone 200 years after he died. ]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:49:41 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20921&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20921 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20919&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20919 Author: Rhodes
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 12:25pm

It appears the irony of the post is lost on a few of you.

It's obvious the reason the post was made above is because of what Laubach posted on this forum on August 4th: "I believe in the economic and governing principles laid out by Thomas Jefferson, Adam Smith, and John Locke."

As typical with liberals, they knee jerk react first and then manage to find a way to be offended at the same time!]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:25:47 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20919&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20919 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20917&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20917 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 11:54am

Ahh yes, Jefferson- the original Hugh Hefner playboy. Just as Hef is doing now, I imagine Jefferson threw lavish parties, drank heavily, was surrounded by women constantly, and played the playboy role even as he was wrinkling like a prune and became a shriveled old fart as he aged- just like Hef.

What do you mean "orders can be disobeyed" Hermes? I bet, if you're smart and want to stay in one piece, that you do everything momma says to do at the Hermes estate. You've been around the block a few times and you ain't no fool. Don't give us some of that rebellion crap!

Look at how the word "hero" is used nowadays. It is used so freely, a person is labeled a hero for merely doing their jobs now. The military praise comes to mind here. They are labeling these guys in Iraq as heroes when they were merely doing what they were assigned to do. Takes the importance and honor away from the TRUE HEROES like the Medal Of Honor winners, don't you think? THEY are the heroes, IMO. ]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:54:21 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20917&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20917 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20914&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20914 Author: Hermes
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 11:02am

What exactly made the founding fathers so great ? I never understood how these men could hold slaves and mistreat them then quote the bible and go to church every Sunday. And don't forget ole Jefferson was playing hanky-panky with one of or all of his slaves. Why do we make hero's of them ?

 

What about George Custer ? He wasn't a founder but he still rides history as some kind of hero. He murdered women and children just because they were different than he was. Of course he was also under orders but orders can be disobeyed.

 

Funny how we make these people out to be hero's and do gooders when they were actually muderers and profit seeking self indulgent politicians.]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:02:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20914&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20914 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20912&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20912 Author: wasteful
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 10:48am

Bill and Gemneye the topic that this quote was concerned with had nothing to do with Slavery, Womens Rights, Leeches, Medical Technology or Bozo Liberal thinking.  But as usual the Libs turn everything around to other topics rather than stick to the point at hand.

]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:48:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20912&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20912 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20905&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20905 Author: gemneye70
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 9:23am

I agree with Bill.]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:23:02 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20905&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20905 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20903&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20903 Author: Bill
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 9:00am

I love when people quote the founding fathers as if they are prophets or saints.  Why don't we also quote their opinions on slavery, rights of women, the use of leeches, and medical technology?]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:00:07 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20903&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20903 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20902&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20902 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Aug 20 2010 at 7:41am

That would be Thomas Jefferson and I believe the actual quote is, "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." ]]> Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:41:44 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229&PID=20902&title=a-question-for-sir-laubach#20902