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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : Bocephus, I can&amp;#039;t really...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;23&nbsp;2010 at 1:51pm<br /><br />Bocephus, I can't really speak to the enrollment issue you describe without knowing all the circumstances.&nbsp; Based on my own experience, I&nbsp; don't think that a social security number is required to enroll in MCSD.&nbsp; I agree that there is a space for it on the forms, but there are spaces for lots of information not strictly required (just as an example, parent(s) work phone numbers).<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marcia Andrew</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : Only in Middletown--Wildwood Elementary...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;23&nbsp;2010 at 1:46pm<br /><br /><P>Only in Middletown--Wildwood Elementary is not in Academic Watch.&nbsp; That building was rated in Continuous Improvement. They made AYP (Adequate Yearly Progress, a federal measure).</P><DIV>The rating of a student's home school building cannot be used by another school district to refuse enrollment to that child.&nbsp; Districts either have open enrollment from outside the district, or they do not.&nbsp;&nbsp; Within the Middletown school district, there is open enrollment -- any child in Middletown can apply to attend any of the elementary schools, and requests are considered based on space available at the grade level.&nbsp; To the extent that a building is in School Improvement status (which is different than the&nbsp;Academic Watch, Continuous Improvement rankings), then federal law says that child actually has preference to transfer to another elementary school within the district that is not in School Improvement status.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>According to the official numbers on the state report card, last school year 22.3% of Wildwood's students were limited English proficient (in other words, in the English as a Second Language program). I don't have a breakdown of their scores compared to the rest of the students.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marcia Andrew</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : &amp;#034; Bocephus--why do you assume...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=313">Bocephus</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;23&nbsp;2010 at 1:17pm<br /><br /><P>"</P><DIV>Bocephus--why do you assume that the students whose first language is Spanish are illegal immigrants? One of the students mentioned in the article is from Puerto Rico, part of the United States. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marcia Andrew"</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the United States,I have worked with several Puerto Ricans through out the years most were hard working and proud of their culture.Nothing against Hispanics or the school system program.Just wish that our Government would do its job and enforce the laws we have on immigration.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : Mrs. Andrews while we are on the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=313">Bocephus</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;23&nbsp;2010 at 12:59pm<br /><br />Mrs. Andrews while we are on the subject can you explain this to me.A few years ago when my wife and youngest daughter were at middletown high school in the guidance counsler office waiting to talk to her counsler about class schedule there was a hispanic student enrolling for classes and they had to bring the spanish teacher down to the office to translate to him and whomever was with him a relative non parent.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>They &nbsp;were told that his parents would have to sign a legal document so that this young man could live with relatives and attend middletown high school, in the course of the office staff getting the necessary forms (in spanish) for his parents to sign my wife overheard one of the staff members tell the other staff member not to worry about the form for his social security number because he didnt need one to enroll.Why did my children need their social security numbers to enroll and this person did not?</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : Ms. Andrew- I simply stated that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;22&nbsp;2010 at 1:46pm<br /><br />Ms. Andrew- I simply stated that the grant money came from the taxpayer. Didn't make any difference what the level of government considered. I accused you of nothing. <br /><br />The Hispanic dinner is a social event, not necessarily an educational one as it applies to classroom instruction and improving the test scores/overall upgrading of the education process. Yes, it has value. Yes, it promotes cultural enrichment. No, it doesn't add to the basic academic issues in the classroom that need so much attention to improve upon.<br /><br />Good to know that the taxpayers aren't paying for this special event.<br /><br />"improvement, but not yet enough to move up a rank"- We know. The record has had a skip in it since the 70's. It is still playing that one chord in the song and is getting a little repetitious in nature. Good to know the reasons for the slow improvement times just keep coming. Look forward every year when the proficiency tests are reported, the "5 of 30" indicator areas are reported and the school continuous improvement is reported, to hear the reasons given for the lack of progress. Like many in this town, I'm hoping to hear someday the reasons why we did it instead of the reasons why we couldn't do it, that's all. <br /><br />Not complaining about this outreach effort at Wildwood. Just asking some questions from a taxpayer's perception. When will you learn to see this side of the fence, Ms. Andrew? You seem to have the school board/education community defense down pat. Where is the concerted effort to learn the citizens point of view from not only you, but the rest of the school board and the entire educational community? You seem to be on a one-way street. I thought the school board was suppose to consider both sides of the fence. ]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : Mrs. Andrew, isn&amp;#039;t it true...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=679">onlyinMiddletown</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;22&nbsp;2010 at 1:40pm<br /><br />Mrs. Andrew, isn't it true that Wild Wood is in an academic watch state, and parents have no being able to enroll their children in other school districts because of that?<DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And if this is the case with Wild Wood, is the academic watch due to all non English speaking students causing the test scores to be lower than those out other schools?</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : Vet--I didn&amp;#039;t say that federal...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;22&nbsp;2010 at 1:13pm<br /><br />Vet--I didn't say that federal grant funds is not taxpayer money. Of course it is.&nbsp; I was answering a question of where did the funding for ESOL programs come from.&nbsp; It is not from local real estate taxes.&nbsp; Federal grants have requirements as to how the money can be spent.&nbsp; These particular funds were probably targeted for ESOL--in other words, we would not get the money unless we spent it on ESOL<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Actually, as I mentioned in another post, we have had some level of success in some school buildings.&nbsp;2 of our elementary buildings improved their rating to Effective (Mayfield and Central) for a total of 3 (Miller Ridge continued at Effective).&nbsp; Other buildings showed improvement in some of the many measures on the report card, but not enough yet to move up a rank.&nbsp; As the principals of both Mayfield and Central stated to the Journal last month, one of the reasons they attribute for their improved scores is their efforts to embrace the culture of their families.&nbsp; There are obviously differences building to building, neighborhood to neighborhood.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The Hispanic dinner is an initiative at the building level, not a district effort. The idea started with the parents, and was&nbsp;supported by the principal and teachers.&nbsp; I suspect that if the Rosa Parks community wanted to have an African culture celebration, and volunteered to provide the food and do all the work, the principal&nbsp;and teachers at Rosa Parks would support the effort.&nbsp; Nobody is forcing anybody to participate. Finally, I think its pretty clear from the article that the dinner is funded by the parents and local businesses, not taxpayers.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I don't understand your criticisms of this outreach effort at Wildwood.&nbsp; You often compain on this board that the Middletown school district is not doing anything different, anything to improve.&nbsp; Then, when there is a story on one of the many things the district IS doing differently, you complain.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Bocephus--why do you assume that the students whose first language is Spanish are illegal immigrants? One of the students mentioned in the article is from Puerto Rico, part of the United States. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marcia Andrew</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : Ms. Andrew, the use in the same...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;22&nbsp;2010 at 6:40am<br /><br />Ms. Andrew, the use in the same sentence of the Middletown schools and the word success just doesn't compute with many people in this community. (Again, please reference the chart at the top of the one thread of proficiency test rankings)<br /><br />The English second language programs are funded by fed grant money, again, originally coming from the taxpayer. Doesn't matter if it's fed, state of local, it still originates in our wallets.<br /><br />"Research, best practices at successful schools, and Middletown's own experience all suggest that two important elements to successful schools are engaged students and engaged parents"- Again, the use of success and the use of Middletown's own experience don't tie together at this time. Is that Middletown's success in the past- say 40 years ago? You can't mean recent success because it hasn't happened in the last 30+ years since the slide in performance in the 70's. <br /><br />My question about the Hispanic dinner is this. I don't care if Wildwood is inundated with Hispanics and I am not concerned with the "embracing" thing you mention. It is a dinner celebrating the Hispanic culture. That's fine, but why is this the only culture dinner celebrated in the school district? Where is the Rosa Parks African culture celebration? How about a dinner celebrating the Germans, Irish, etc? If we are teaching the parents and kids about culture appreciation, shouldn't we do it for all cultures to be fair and impartial about it? Why is just the Hispanic culture singled out for this? That's all. Oh, and is this cultural dinner celebration funded with private donations or taxpayer money? If taxpayer money, where in the tight budget did you find the funds?]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : &amp;#034;Most English as a second...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=313">Bocephus</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;21&nbsp;2010 at 7:59pm<br /><br />"Most English as a second language programs are paid for out of federal grant funds"<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I guess that means that no hard working taxpayer has to pay to educate illegal immigrants?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Just because its federal money does not mean that we do not have to pay for it!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If only the United States government would do thier job and secure our borders we would not have this problem.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Any one else sick of pressing 1 for English ? And seeing Spanish signs at local stores? </DIV>]]>
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   <title>Hispanic Program At Wildwood : Thank you for stopping by Mrs....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=216">randy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3295<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;21&nbsp;2010 at 1:34pm<br /><br />Thank you for stopping by Mrs. Andrew, I really appreciate the fact that you come here and clear things up and answer questions. I have sent an email to the new superintendent hoping to get an email interview, but have yet t o hear back from him. I am sure the people of MUSA and the community would love to hear his thoughts on a few subjects. Anyway you can help me with this?]]>
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