Middletown Forum : Public Comments From MPHA Meeting http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Public Comments From MPHA Meeting Wed, 07 Oct 2026 11:54:33 +0000 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:17:50 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3307 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : Hi! Thanks for all of your very... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=22185&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#22185 Author: angelababy
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Posted: Oct 11 2010 at 10:17pm

Hi! Thanks for all of your very useful informations.

]]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:17:50 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=22185&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#22185 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : Since the buildings he owns are... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21675&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21675 Author: angelababy
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Posted: Sep 26 2010 at 1:21am

Since the buildings he owns are efficiency, there really isn't much he can do with them but rent them to single Section 8 renters. ]]> Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:21:28 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21675&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21675 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : SupportMiddletown wrote: ... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21604&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21604 Author: swohio75
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Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 11:36pm

Originally posted by SupportMiddletown SupportMiddletown wrote:

Originally posted by swohio75 swohio75 wrote:

Originally posted by SupportMiddletown SupportMiddletown wrote:

So what is the alternative that does not put people out on the street?
Doesn't put people on the street. That's the misconception. It shifts the burden to other parts of the county. The voucher doesn't go away.





 

That assumes that decent housing exists in other parts of the county and that people are able to pick up their lives and relocate. Middletown is the only part of the county with a transit system.

 

I'm sure there is a way to gradually ramp down vouchers, but it is going to take some time.


Well once the Sun Coke is done, there will be plenty of decent housing in Monroe since.... ;) ]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:36:29 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21604&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21604 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : swohio75 wrote: SupportMiddletown... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21602&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21602 Author: SupportMiddletown
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Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 10:34pm

Originally posted by swohio75 swohio75 wrote:

Originally posted by SupportMiddletown SupportMiddletown wrote:

So what is the alternative that does not put people out on the street?


Doesn't put people on the street. That's the misconception. It shifts the burden to other parts of the county.

The voucher doesn't go away.
 
That assumes that decent housing exists in other parts of the county and that people are able to pick up their lives and relocate. Middletown is the only part of the county with a transit system.
 
I'm sure there is a way to gradually ramp down vouchers, but it is going to take some time.
]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:34:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21602&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21602 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : I agree that they did not cause... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21599&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21599 Author: randy
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Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 7:59pm

I agree that they did not cause the problem, they just took advantage of what was happening. But at this point they are still a part of problem. ]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:59:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21599&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21599 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : randy, reading the post above... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21598&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21598 Author: Rhodes
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Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 7:39pm

randy, reading the post above by Vivian pretty much clears the investors of blame. It was the city that increased the number of vouchers. The investors just took advantage of it.

I don't mind going after investors if they are breaking the law regarding their rentals or something like that. I don't think it is fair to publicly mark them on this board or anywhere else as though they caused the voucher program to get out of hand. Investors invest, they take risks. It was the city that created the environment that is currently ruining this city.

And it is ALL over the city. They have managed to put Section 8 renters in areas over by The Jug, Ayreshire Acres (sp), all around Sunset Park. This is how you destroy a city.

Maybe the next Metropolitan housing complex should be built on the South Park property, right across the street from Mr. Kohler.]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:39:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21598&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21598 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : That's right Rhodes head... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21597&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21597 Author: wasteful
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Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 6:59pm

That's right Rhodes head for the hills with the name calling......hahahahaha.  Funny how some can't have a conversation without the name calling.]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:59:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21597&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21597 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : Wow-such good info and discussion... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21596&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21596 Author: spiderjohn
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Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 6:21pm

Wow-such good info and discussion from so many knowledgeable contributors.
Ms.Moon and Mr.Kidd were right on the money with the cold, hard truth.
wasteful and Rhodes are both right in their own ways.

So many to share the blame over a long time period, though most involved passed through or controlled the city building. So the blame runs primarily in that direction.

The solution will be painful for everyone, whether you think that way or not. Everyone will lose somehow.

Those that profited most from the situation may well lose the most--so it goes.
No one wants to see anyone tossed into the street, however Section 8 was never meant to be a long-term way of life.
The entitlement age is rapidly coming to an end, whether you are on welfare,Section 8 or retired or working municipal employee. The private sector can no longer be you sole benefactor. Everyone must contribute their fair share in many different ways. We must all stay productive for as long as possible. Double-dipping must be eliminated.

Beauty of this is that Council/admin is monitoring everything we post, and they know that realistically the writing is on the wall. No turning back.]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:21:55 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21596&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21596 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : Rhodes, the fact that property... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21593&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21593 Author: randy
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Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 5:44pm

Rhodes, the fact that property owners buy these homes and rent out to section 8 tenets in Middletown keeps the numbers here high. I am not sure if the local government has any say in the number of vouchers allowed in there city. I dont think so though.

]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:44:37 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21593&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21593 Public Comments From MPHA Meeting : wasteful, you're boring. randy,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21591&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21591 Author: Rhodes
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Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 5:24pm

wasteful, you're boring.

randy, vouchers may be taken anywhere, but doesn't each government body determine how many they allow? Can anyone confirm this? This is the first I heard that the investors are the ones dictating the number of vouchers for a city.]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:24:30 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3307&PID=21591&title=public-comments-from-mpha-meeting#21591