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   <title>Historic Ordinance : Spider I&amp;#039;m with you on the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 5:39pm<br /><br /><strong>Spider I'm with you on the location of Duncan. I'd always wondered why in the world a gas station was located so close to train tracks even when they were near the train depot. Could you imagine the fallout from a derailment in that area ? But in a way I understand Duncan wanting to be exposed to traffic but as you say the congestion will be horrible if they get any business at all. If you can't get in and out of there then there won't be any business.</strong>]]>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance : Vet--of course Council/Admin and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 3:34pm<br /><br />Vet--of course Council/Admin and their puppertmasters are concerned about what is happening. <DIV>Shouldn't everyone be concerned?</DIV><DIV>The bunker crew is headed for a major crash in the next two years when labor contracts must be decided, and the public safety levy comes to an end. The $ #s don't add up well, kinda like personal finances into the future. It all falls back on Council, since everything needs their approval.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The huge land purchases/swaps, demolitions and future tear-downs, and $$ giveaways will look very generous and un-necessary when the day of reckoning arrives. Look for more un-mandated/hidden taxes like the water bill increase. "They" know that they can't succeed at the ballot box, so they must find ways to increase revenue.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>So--if Kasich is elected governor(I really don't care for him) and kills the rail project, what will happen to the former train station Whistle Stop now that it stands alone on a 6-lane highway surrounded by nothing? What purpose could it serve, and is it really historic? Far better has come down for far less usage space. Doesn't the Duncan station/convenience store seem oddly and dangerously placed at the Central/1st Ave. convergence point adjacent to active railroad tracks and a major intersection? Entrance/exit will be very dicey, particularly during peak volume traffic times. Seems entrances only going east from Firts Ave, and west from Central(though could cause major back-up approximate to the traffic lights). Access from Charles would be difficult. Wouldn't the old Office Outfitter site have been the safest and best option(as planned and for a lot less taxpayer expense)?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>jmo</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance : VetOOOOO&#226;&#8364;&#166;.I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;ve got 2 pitchforks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 3:17pm<br /><br /><P =Ms&#111;normal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><FONT size=3>Vet<BR>OOOOO….I’ve got 2 pitchforks and a box of matches and I'm ready to march <img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs%20Up" /></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>]]>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance : So....Spider.....do you think...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 11:29am<br /><br />So....Spider.....do you think we finally touched a nerve with the good people down at city hall? Think we offended the members of the MMF organization with our endless criticism and supporting documentation to reveal their innermost secrets? Do you think a sizable number of people in this town are now thinking like we do and are on our side- and they sense that? <br /><br />NOW is it time to clean out the council, replace 'em and start firing the people in the city building? Have we all had enough?<br /><br />I can picture it now....the angry mob marching on city hall with pitchforks and fire just like in Young Frankenstein.  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance : this dark side puppet troll mtown...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 10:13am<br /><br />this dark side puppet troll mtown is obviously trying to bait me into something, or discredit my opinions and personal business interests. While this concerns me from a business perspective, it does not bother me at all as far as voicing my opinions on community issues.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I also see this as an orchestrated attempt to intimidate others speaking out here, who might be very concerned about reprisals against their professional situations(very real and understandable).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Desperation has taken over with the dark side leaders, using their shills and puppets to do their dirty work.</DIV><DIV>Since they have no real constructive comments or #s to support their wasteful actions, they now make a very ?able move by using screen name exposure and personal credibilty assumptions.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I am who and what I am. No secrets here. Wide open.</DIV><DIV>I stand by my thinking, and very much appreciate having an un-censored forum where EVERYONE can express their point of view.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Where will it go from here?</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance : Mike.....I did not mean to imply...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=259">409</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 9:30am<br /><br />Mike.....I did not mean to imply Mr. Saunders was incorrect. I was simply saying there were antennas on the old taller powerhouse stack. <DIV><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/uploads/259/IMG_1206b.jpg" height="267" width="200" border="0" />&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/uploads/259/IMG_1206c.JPG" height="266" width="193" border="0" /></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance :   409 wrote:While there were...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;30&nbsp;2010 at 3:33am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by 409" alt="Originally posted by 409" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>409 wrote:</strong><br /><br />While there were no cell antennas located atop the old MRH building that I&nbsp;was aware of, there were some located on the old round powerhouse stack. These were replaced by the monstrosity located beside the Hilltop doctor's office. <DIV></DIV>I would have no clue about what is historic about the Kensington tower site. I do recall some of the area residents protesting the installation of a tower at that location.</td></tr></table>409:<DIV>Mr. Saunders is accurate.&nbsp; The Historic Commission <EM><strong>DID</strong></EM> put the kybosh on Verizon's attempts to install&nbsp;colocation equipment both on top of the old MRH and on an existing city radio tower located at the Kensington (Dorset &amp; Sherman) water tower.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I do not know why they (the historic commission) stuck their noses into this, other than that they could due to their overwhelming scope and power (and this was<strong><EM> BEFORE</EM></strong> the new ordinance) but they did, and they insisted that such equipment was inappropriate with the historic nature of the areas.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I wrote in protest extensively&nbsp;either here, or on the old Journal blogs.&nbsp; (I can't recall which.)</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance :   VietVet wrote:409-that Kensington...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=259">409</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2010 at 3:07pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by VietVet" alt="Originally posted by VietVet" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>VietVet wrote:</strong><br /><br />409-that Kensington water tower site has been there since the 50's. All of us kids in the Grand Ave. Euclid St. Kensington St. area, in the 60's, use to play football on top of that site because of the size and the flatness there. This was before Dorset was cut through and houses developed and Boehnies Greenhouse sat where Dorset and Grand meet. Never was a historic site as far as I know.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Roger that! We used to cut through the woods to get to Wilson Elementary before Sherman &amp; Dorset were cut through.]]>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance : So--what exactly are the historical...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2010 at 2:42pm<br /><br />So--what exactly are the historical societies, committees and districts doing these days? <DIV>Council just passed legislation to give them more power/authority, while they aren't using existing regulations. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Just wondering..........</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Historic Ordinance : spiderjohnDon&amp;#039;t throw stones...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=677">Mtown</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3327<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2010 at 1:45pm<br /><br />spiderjohn<BR><BR>Don't throw stones if you live in a GLASS HOUSE! ]]>
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