Middletown Forum : Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line Tue, 06 Oct 2026 02:03:23 +0000 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:30:52 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3353 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Scott-Jones in his E-Mails. He... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22186&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22186 Author: angelababy
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Posted: Oct 11 2010 at 10:30pm

Scott-Jones in his E-Mails. He is out of control in his superiority type of attitude. This is not in a discussion mode, but rather an argumentative style that will discredit what little credibility council has built and create the uneasy feeling that seemed present on the council tape as it played out. Ms. Scott-Jones' assessment of the 4 to 3 vote on a repetitive basis is correct. It appears, whether they want to admit it or not, that there are two camps on council. ]]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:30:52 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22186&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22186 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Paul, can you believe that Les... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22084&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22084 Author: Nick_Kidd
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 3:49pm

Paul, can you believe that Les Landen could even say the word ethics without being struck by lighting?
 
Hermes, my intentions are to file with the Auditor of State and the Attorney General of the State. The only reason for waiting is the election. They are out trying to get elected and we will have new ones after the election. Filing right now would probably get lost in the shuffle.
]]> Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:49:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22084&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22084 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Paul Nagy wrote:Hey Nick, ... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22083&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22083 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 3:45pm

Originally posted by Paul Nagy Paul Nagy wrote:

Hey Nick,
        Do you remember when we were running that we got called into a meeting by Les landen to insultingly tell us what we could and couldn't say and do in our campaigns and/or if we sat on council.
Mr. Landen must have forgotten that class with this council.
Paul Nagy
The City Law Director seems to only apply the law or the Code of Ethics when it suits him or his handlers.

We consistently see him approve, overlook, or acquiesce illegal and unethical behavior.

It is time for him to go, but for his pension to stay. He should not be allowed to resign. He should be fired for cause and either the County prosecutor or the State AG should determine if a criminal case could be made.

]]> Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:45:27 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22083&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22083 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Nick - I agree 100%...I've... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22080&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22080 Author: Hermes
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 2:52pm

Nick - I agree 100%...I've said it for some time that the state auditor needs to come in but being an outsider (from city hall) I don't have the evidence to file with the auditor.
 
If you have evidence and can prove a solid case then I suggest in wasting no time on contacting the auditor. On the state auditors website they have a way of reporting these things but it requires personal information which may or will become public record.]]> Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:52:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22080&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22080 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Hey Nick, Do you remember when... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22079&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22079 Author: Paul Nagy
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 2:49pm

Hey Nick,
        Do you remember when we were running that we got called into a meeting by Les landen to insultingly tell us what we could and couldn't say and do in our campaigns and/or if we sat on council.
Mr. Landen must have forgotten that class with this council.
Paul Nagy
]]> Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:49:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22079&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22079 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Rhodes wrote:I've said... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22077&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22077 Author: Mike_Presta
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 2:30pm

Originally posted by Rhodes Rhodes wrote:

I've said it before and nobody ever comments on it, but to resolve this problem we need to reduce the terms to ONE YEAR. They can keep running year after year, but each term should be one year. Big cities are usually 2 years. Why does Middletown force the citizens to be stuck with council members for 4 whole years? Congress only gets 2 at a time. In a small town, one year is enough to show what you are made of and it would give us the opportunity to vote them out if that is needed.

Rhodes,

I must've missed this when you've said it in the past, but it is a GREAT idea!!!

Our City Charter needs some major revisions. It needs a good going over by a group of citizens NOT controlled by the scoundrels that are ruining our city.

The SHORTENING of the term of City Council members should be the starting point of such an effort. Although I think one year is too short, I would certainly support TWO YEARS as an appropriate length term for council members in our city.

]]> Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:30:21 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22077&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22077 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Nick_Kidd wrote:Vet, acclaro,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22062&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22062 Author: LMAO
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 10:28am

Originally posted by Nick_Kidd Nick_Kidd wrote:

Vet, acclaro, Mike Presta, Vivian and others: There are a ways to get rid of the members of council and criminals in the city building! It is time to hold them personnally responsible for their criminal conduct. I have been gathering evidence of criminal activity for many years. Just within the last few weeks the crooks in the city building have started violating the civil rights of many citizens. I think council and the city employees should take personal responsibility for these violations. If we file many multi-million dollar civil rights violations lawsuits against them personally, they will gladly remove themselves. Also, at the last coucil meeting, council voted to steal more money from the citizens by charging a minimum "rain" tax on real estate where  water is shut off. If you remember when a previous council told us that the storm water sewer charge was "federally mandated charge"? That was a lie! That was a sceme hatched in our city building to steal more money from the citizens, because council can raise water and sewer rates without a vote of the citizens. This money should go into an enterprise fund along with the increases in water and sewer charges. These funds are already overcharging and the extra money being skimmed off. The sewer separation fund was also an enterprise fund that hundreds of millions of dollars are missing. After the election, I think that we should petition the auditor of the state to come in and audit the enterprise funds(along with all the other funds) and get the attorney general to prosecute all those involved in over charging and misappropriating the money from these funds.
 An added thought, if we got rid of just one inspector from city payroll, the savings on their benefit package would pay to open our pool. The saving on their paycheck would maintain our park and cemetery. 
ClapClapClapClapClapClap..Amen Nick. Time for the crooks to exit the city.
]]> Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:28:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22062&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22062 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Vet, acclaro, Mike Presta, Vivian... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22060&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22060 Author: Nick_Kidd
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 10:23am

Vet, acclaro, Mike Presta, Vivian and others: There are a ways to get rid of the members of council and criminals in the city building! It is time to hold them personnally responsible for their criminal conduct. I have been gathering evidence of criminal activity for many years. Just within the last few weeks the crooks in the city building have started violating the civil rights of many citizens. I think council and the city employees should take personal responsibility for these violations. If we file many multi-million dollar civil rights violations lawsuits against them personally, they will gladly remove themselves. Also, at the last coucil meeting, council voted to steal more money from the citizens by charging a minimum "rain" tax on real estate where  water is shut off. If you remember when a previous council told us that the storm water sewer charge was "federally mandated charge"? That was a lie! That was a sceme hatched in our city building to steal more money from the citizens, because council can raise water and sewer rates without a vote of the citizens. This money should go into an enterprise fund along with the increases in water and sewer charges. These funds are already overcharging and the extra money being skimmed off. The sewer separation fund was also an enterprise fund that hundreds of millions of dollars are missing. After the election, I think that we should petition the auditor of the state to come in and audit the enterprise funds(along with all the other funds) and get the attorney general to prosecute all those involved in over charging and misappropriating the money from these funds.
 An added thought, if we got rid of just one inspector from city payroll, the savings on their benefit package would pay to open our pool. The saving on their paycheck would maintain our park and cemetery. 
]]> Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:23:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22060&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22060 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Vet and acclaro, you are both... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22058&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22058 Author: Nick_Kidd
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 9:41am

Vet and acclaro, you are both correct. For many years I tried to get our citizens to see just where our city was headed. The criminals that have destroyed our city rely on the following:

The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
                                                      -Plato

]]> Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:41:57 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22058&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22058 Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line : Vet, my point again is a recall... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3353&PID=22054&title=mrpicard-you-were-out-of-line#22054 Author: acclaro
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Posted: Oct 08 2010 at 8:44am

Vet, my point again is a recall may be an effort worthy of making, but I remain confused---is it directed towards ONLY Mr. Picard, or others? Nick Kidd has made some very strong comments about the city using or misappropriating gas funds collected, it that substantiated, and if so, would that not be a stronger basis for a recall? I offer as an example, the cemetary situation with the city. A complaint was filed, and I haven't read or seen evidence the city was hit hard with a fine or much of any action taken.
 
If this is based upon rudenes, I am sure almost every city has had periods where a council member ws rude, but perhaps exerting enough pressure will cause Mr. Picard to resign or the recall petition will set up another candidate. At the end of the day, I just don't think city council puts forth the effort to push for the people, its all about the city.
 
To your final point, I totally agree about the apathy. I can't figure it out, but those wanting change stay on the sidelines. Go for it, nothing ventured is nothing gained.    
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