Middletown Forum : Mayors New Rules For Council http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Mayors New Rules For Council Wed, 07 Oct 2026 10:36:07 +0000 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 07:29:24 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3392 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Mayors New Rules For Council : Sounds like we need a "standby... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22849&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22849 Author: VietVet
Subject: 3392
Posted: Nov 01 2010 at 7:29am

Sounds like we need a "standby list" to call for fill-ins so that the business can continue, with or without original members. Might have to wait for them to show, but at least business decisions could be accomplished and the meeting wouldn't be a total waste of time. ]]> Mon, 01 Nov 2010 07:29:24 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22849&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22849 Mayors New Rules For Council : how about excluding all current... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22848&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22848 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 3392
Posted: Nov 01 2010 at 7:16am

how about excluding all current and former board/commission members who have missed more than 25% of meetings? Hard to get a quorum any more--even on the Master Plan Steering Committee.]]> Mon, 01 Nov 2010 07:16:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22848&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22848 Mayors New Rules For Council : I would say nothing has changed... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22842&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22842 Author: angelababy
Subject: 3392
Posted: Oct 31 2010 at 11:17pm

I would say nothing has changed this week over the last meeting and recall is the only way to solve the stalemate and animosity on council and while we are at it put the Commission/Board members being allowed from outside the city as a referendum to the voters. ]]> Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:17:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22842&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22842 Mayors New Rules For Council : VOR- Perfect example of two people... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22574&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22574 Author: VietVet
Subject: 3392
Posted: Oct 22 2010 at 7:10am

VOR- Perfect example of two people looking at the same situation and coming to two very different conclusions.

Your opinion, after observing Ms. Scott-Jones, is a chip on the shoulder. My opinion is that she is constantly asking needed questions, constantly analyzing situations, trying to problem solve and receiving only token answers many times that has become a building frustration for her (as well as many of us citizens). I sense the lady is getting tired of the double-talk, the city policy of talking around a subject that could incriminate them as to their activities. I feel the city hides many things from the citizens or blantantly does what they wish with no regard to what the people want for their city and I believe she senses this also. JMO

You see AJ and Laubach as too young, inexperienced and perhaps too "tender of mind/will. I presume you are not willing to allow them to "settle in" as there is "too much at stake for this city to give a pass to the inexperienced types". I believe they will be more agressive as they gain confidence and gain a mastery of the way the system works. They are new, young people in their first year in a group of seasoned veterans and older people who have developed a sense of confidence over the years. I say give 'em time. At least the first term to adjust.

The statement you used about too inexperienced and youthful is a common one used to describe the new kids on the block that want to upset the apple carts of the old guard incumbants who are in their comfort zones and usually stop serving the people over time because they have the next election "locked up". Look, if you are happy with "old guard" people like Mulligan and Becker and with the newer members (who have made the choice-or have been told to join Mulligan and Becker to keep the majority vote on council) like Allen and Picard, then by all means, support them. I, on the other hand, think the old "inexperienced" argument is a load of crap. Hell, Becker, Mulligan and the other "experienced" people started out where Smith and Laubach are now didn't they? Everyone, including the mighty Johnny Boehner, started out from day one not knowing his a-- from first base, didn't he? New blood is necessary to replace old, stale, never changing/never improving comfortable incumbants. That's why nothing ever gets any better around here. The controlling majority on council will only vote in the manner that the controlling faction tells them to vote. That controlling faction is the old dried up, never changing, stubborn, non open minded individuals that detest progress and want to inhibit any real growth or oppotunities for the town and its people. That's why Middletown is light years behind the times compared to the surrounding communities. No, IMO, it is time to purge the old guard, both on council and with the behind the scenes power group in town who are the real controllers of this town and replace with new, progressive thinking blood, free to offer any and all ideas, without backstabbing resistance, to help us prosper. The deadwood leadership in this town must be purged and that starts with the behind the scenes, faction-backed council members that occupy the current majority. They must go, and then the hierarchy in the city building must go. ]]> Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:10:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22574&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22574 Mayors New Rules For Council : I would also like to note Mr.Picard's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22572&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22572 Author: spiderjohn
Subject: 3392
Posted: Oct 22 2010 at 7:04am

I would also like to note Mr.Picard's total lack of experience,decorum,respect and incoherent attempts of public speaking and cohesion.
 
Mr.Allen has been far too silent on the issues, and despite his claims of being open to the public, has failed every opportunity to respond to his constituents.
 
While Council was quick to point out the 26 talking heads supporting the PAC as reason for that conformation, they failed to equally weigh the 3 well-respected locally involved citizens who joined with Council minority to offer non-voting alternatives to non-residents being appointed to local boards/commissions. The fact seemed to be lost that NO citizens spoke in favor of this legislation. So--it seems that all it would take to be classified as an out-of-town "expert" would be 4 votes from Council.
 
So--I assume Council/admin needed to rectify the situation of non-locals already serving in these positions in total violation of the existing ordinances.
 
Anyone else notice the filthy/poorly maintained temporary sign in front of the main hangar at the city airport complex?
]]> Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:04:22 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22572&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22572 Mayors New Rules For Council : Voice of Reason wrote:VietVet,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22567&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22567 Author: tomahawk35
Subject: 3392
Posted: Oct 21 2010 at 11:40pm

Originally posted by Voice of Reason Voice of Reason wrote:

VietVet, from what I have observed, Scott Jones seems to operate with a constant chip on her shoulder, and so does AJ.  So I would claim that While Laubach has some libertarian leanings that I can sympathize with, he seems extreme in his views.  I for one am not willing to give AJ and Laubach a pass for their youth.  Elected position is not appropriate for anyone who is tender of mind/will, and needs time to settle in. 
 
If you're willing to put your name out there and run for office then you ought to be ready for the challenges-- otherwise just stay home and vote for someone else.  There is too much at stake for this city to give a pass to the inexperienced types like AJ and Josh. 
Miss Jones is at least operating unlike some of those who remind me of  frogs sitting on a lilly pad doing nothing waiting on feeding time.]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:40:31 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22567&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22567 Mayors New Rules For Council : VietVet, from what I have observed,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22556&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22556 Author: Voice of Reason
Subject: 3392
Posted: Oct 21 2010 at 9:45pm

VietVet, from what I have observed, Scott Jones seems to operate with a constant chip on her shoulder, and so does AJ.  So I would claim that While Laubach has some libertarian leanings that I can sympathize with, he seems extreme in his views.  I for one am not willing to give AJ and Laubach a pass for their youth.  Elected position is not appropriate for anyone who is tender of mind/will, and needs time to settle in. 
 
If you're willing to put your name out there and run for office then you ought to be ready for the challenges-- otherwise just stay home and vote for someone else.  There is too much at stake for this city to give a pass to the inexperienced types like AJ and Josh. 
]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:45:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22556&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22556 Mayors New Rules For Council : Wasteful: Actually, yes. I lived... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22544&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22544 Author: Molly
Subject: 3392
Posted: Oct 21 2010 at 11:00am

Wasteful: Actually, yes. I lived in a small town in Central Ohio, about 40 miles from Columbus. This was in the mid 90s and the result of the recall was, to a greater degree than Middletown, a split city. Molly]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:00:10 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22544&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22544 Mayors New Rules For Council : Molly how many Recall's have... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22539&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22539 Author: wasteful
Subject: 3392
Posted: Oct 21 2010 at 8:58am

Molly how many Recall's have you been involved in?  Ever lived in a city where a recall took place and seen the outcome?]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:58:53 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22539&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22539 Mayors New Rules For Council : This is just my opinion, but I... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22536&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22536 Author: Molly
Subject: 3392
Posted: Oct 21 2010 at 7:42am

This is just my opinion, but I don't think recalls do much good. Who is to say that the person picked to replace the recalled member will be any better in the long run? As far as 3 members acting for the "betterment" of the city, those are some opinions as well. Others may see that the 4 are the ones with the foresight to lead the city in the right direction. I see some good in all council members and yes, some more than others. Just remember the old saying; "Be careful of what you wish for, you may get it". Again, JMO]]> Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:42:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3392&PID=22536&title=mayors-new-rules-for-council#22536