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Posted: Nov 14 2010 at 12:55pm

Originally posted by Wots Wots wrote:

Me thinks your being a bit to presumptuous. If by living in my past means I enjoy old architectural buildings, then I am guilty as charged. And what on Gods green acre do my kids have to do with this?
 
I would not call the previous administrations lackadaisical. I would call it gross incompetence, being the cause of many things gone wrong.  Instead of doing updates thru the years IE new electrical, plumbing, asbestos removal etc.
 
Instead of addressing the issues, it is kicked down the road to the point that it is cheaper to do a tear down.
 
So tell me
Is Middletown Cutting off the nose to spite the face?
 
WOTS, do you really think you and I are the future of this city and not the Children that are born and raised here?  If you do not think the children are the future you are sadly mistaken.  My teen has already told me he will be leaving when he graduates as Middletown has nothing to offer the younger generation.
 
You also don't seem to think that most Middle Class homeowners are not looking for modern up to date schools for their children, that they are instead like you looking for schools built a century ago.  The fact that you like old architecture has absolutely nothing to do with what is best for a younger generation and the future growth of Middletown.
 
Middletown has cut off it's nose to spite it's face many years ago and refuses to seen the plastic surgeon to have the damage repaired.  This in many instances is the fault of the older generation who can't see the Forrest for the trees and continues with the wearing of blinders when it comes to bringing Middletown into at least the late 20th century.
]]> Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:55:44 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23324&title=roosevelt-demo#23324 Roosevelt Demo : wasteful wrote:WOTS they may... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23323&title=roosevelt-demo#23323 Author: Wots
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Posted: Nov 14 2010 at 12:37pm

Originally posted by wasteful wasteful wrote:

WOTS they may seem to be quick at the trigger, but that is only due to the fact that past Admin. have been lackadaisical in doing their jobs.  The past is over with, it is the future that will draw new residents if the City can bring itself back into the 21st century.
 
How many Seniors that have graduated out of Middletown and gone on to college in the last 5 years are returning to live and work in Middletown.  Not many.  If you continue to live in your past your children with make their own future elsewhere.
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Me thinks your being a bit to presumptuous. If by living in my past means I enjoy old architectural buildings, then I am guilty as charged. And what on Gods green acre do my kids have to do with this?
 
I would not call the previous administrations lackadaisical. I would call it gross incompetence, being the cause of many things gone wrong.  Instead of doing updates thru the years IE new electrical, plumbing, asbestos removal etc.
 
Instead of addressing the issues, it is kicked down the road to the point that it is cheaper to do a tear down.
 
So tell me
Is Middletown Cutting off the nose to spite the face?
]]> Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:37:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23323&title=roosevelt-demo#23323 Roosevelt Demo : I am with you on that in some... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23311&title=roosevelt-demo#23311 Author: viper771
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Posted: Nov 14 2010 at 1:59am

I am with you on that in some ways Tudor. They do it all the time in Europe when they can among other places. Besides, a lot of materials in new construction aren't even made in the US (look at a box of nails or screws for instance) :( A lot of these old places were made to last. The materials used back then are not as abundant anymore either. I am kind of surprised that more renovation isn't going on, since the "going green" stuff is in.
 
As for the school, if there was a demand, I could see whoever gutting the building, leaving the shell..then just revamping it to whatever they wanted it to be. At least it would be pretty much a "new" building, with the original old exterior. But, I know that you can't save everything. I tried to restore a 68 GTO convertible, but she was just too far gone... I could have done it, but it would have really cost a truck load of money. So I just try to fix up my old house :)
]]> Sun, 14 Nov 2010 01:59:39 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23311&title=roosevelt-demo#23311 Roosevelt Demo : Pacman wrote:Tudor I believe... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23304&title=roosevelt-demo#23304 Author: TudorBrown
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Posted: Nov 13 2010 at 5:47pm

Originally posted by Pacman Pacman wrote:

Tudor I believe that is exactly what Mrs. Andrew is saying as far as Roosevelt is concerned.
 
Originally posted by Marcia Andrew Marcia Andrew wrote:

Roosevelt was evaluated and it was found that it would cost more to renovate it and bring it up to current state standards for schools, than to build new. 


I have a hard time believing the cost of demolition, and rebuilding is more than renovation... Confused
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Posted: Nov 13 2010 at 3:29pm

Tudor I believe that is exactly what Mrs. Andrew is saying as far as Roosevelt is concerned.
 
Originally posted by Marcia Andrew Marcia Andrew wrote:

Roosevelt was evaluated and it was found that it would cost more to renovate it and bring it up to current state standards for schools, than to build new. 
]]> Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:29:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23298&title=roosevelt-demo#23298 Roosevelt Demo : Bill wrote:It's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23297&title=roosevelt-demo#23297 Author: TudorBrown
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Posted: Nov 13 2010 at 3:06pm

Originally posted by Bill Bill wrote:

It's like the building of the new elementaries -- some people would rather pay for the constant upkeep of the old buildings and the exorbitant cost to wire it for computers, take care of mold, leaking roofs, etc. instead of spending the same or less for new buildings.  Plus the state kicked in most of the money. 


Are you claiming that it would cost more to renovate Roosevelt than it would to tear the school down and build some disposable looking new building that could never ever compare to Roosevelt's beauty, and quality of construction?


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Posted: Nov 13 2010 at 3:03pm

Old School Buildings: Prehistoric or Worth Preserving?

A report from the National Trust for Historic Preservation (NTHP) makes a case for renovating old school buildings instead of razing them. Although demolition might be the wisest choice in some instances, the NTHP offers resources for helping school boards decide whether to raze or renovate. Education World spoke with members of three communities that have faced that dilemma. Included: Resources from the NTHP and the National Clearinghouse on Educational Facilities.



http://www.educationworld.com/a_issues/issues172.shtml]]> Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:03:43 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23296&title=roosevelt-demo#23296 Roosevelt Demo : Did many a study hall in that... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23283&title=roosevelt-demo#23283 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Nov 12 2010 at 4:25pm

Did many a study hall in that auditorium 409. Played the old trumpet on that stage facing that balcony too. Guess the stage is under that pile of rubble somewhere. Thanks again for the pictures and memories.

Save the cupola! (Clock tower- Back To The Future) ]]> Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:25:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23283&title=roosevelt-demo#23283 Roosevelt Demo : Thank you randy! Good explanation... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23282&title=roosevelt-demo#23282 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Nov 12 2010 at 4:10pm

Thank you randy!

Good explanation Ms. Andrew on the economics of old versus new. You, Bill and Pac make sense on this. Just hard for us older citizens to let go. Hope you understand the sentiment we have for some things in our hometown. As I tried to explain to Bill, when the buildings are torn down, it's almost like the demolition of some of our memories go with them to the landfill. Corny...maybe, but tugs at the old emotions a little. ]]> Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:10:41 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23282&title=roosevelt-demo#23282 Roosevelt Demo : Mrs. Andrew is right on the money... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3434&PID=23281&title=roosevelt-demo#23281 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Nov 12 2010 at 4:05pm

Mrs. Andrew is right on the money here with not only Old School Buildings but all buildings in Middletown that have out lived there useful life.  If you do not have someone in the wings with the money to rehab these places into usable Office space they need to go.  All you need to do is look at Sorg when you sell a building to someone that dosen't have the financial resources to bring it back to life in a reasonable amount of time.
 
We also don't need anymore Low income anything in Middletown we have far to much already and need to do away with much of it.
 
 
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