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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown : Funny how Picard could shout down...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 7:17pm<br /><br />Funny how Picard could shout down Lambuagh, a fellow council member, but they were all ears, no mouths, with the union in the house.&nbsp;Was this the union gang they feared?....boo!<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdAYLVY0KrY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdAYLVY0KrY</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown : When all the dust settles, the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=190">tomahawk35</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 6:44pm<br /><br /><P>When all the dust settles, the botttom line is the council had one of two choices to decide. They were concerned about the future of this city or they sided with the union and with the exception of one councilperson they made their choice which should convince everyone of their lack of concern for the taxpaying citzens and welfare of this town.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><DIV></DIV>There is no need for people on this board to bicker and become alienated from each other because the vote speaks for it's self.]]>
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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown :   Mtown wrote:I continue to be...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=14">Pacman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 4:38pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mtown" alt="Originally posted by Mtown" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mtown wrote:</strong><br /><br />I continue to be amazed at how out of touch with reality and more importantly the facts the MiddletownUSA regulars are on virtually every issue you banter about.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes, Mtown please enlighten us with more than just your one line snipes.  You come on here take you swipe then run for the hills and hide, until the next time.  Please let us know what we are missing.  I would say if the best you can do is snipe and run, it is you who is missing the point and more, not us. <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown : Mtown- I too, continue to be amazed...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 3:43pm<br /><br />Mtown- I too, continue to be amazed that you enter the fray after all has been said and critique the posts as if you are some judge on a reality show. You seem to let the gun be loaded, fired at the target and then become the world's renown expert on why the kill zone wasn't hit. Always a day late and a dollar short on your criticism of the MUSA folks. <br /><br />Then, pray tell, oh learned one, what the real story is here. Since you have all the answers, tell us, oh grand poobah, of the city's affairs, how we could have all done better here. You seem to be a legend in your own mind bud, as to the correct approach to any and all subjects discussed here.<br /><br />You have the floor. You are the teacher. We are your students. Now, enlighten us Master Jedi. Where did we go wrong? Tell us what we have no clue about. We will eagerly hang on your every word.]]>
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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown :   Mtown wrote:I continue to be...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=469">LMAO</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 1:36pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mtown" alt="Originally posted by Mtown" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mtown wrote:</strong><br /><br />I continue to be amazed at how out of touch with reality and more importantly the facts the MiddletownUSA regulars are on virtually every issue you banter about.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>You continue to amaze us to.How you continue backing the spineless people on council.Keep it up and you will grow up and be just like them.<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" />]]>
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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown : Mtown, care to share an example,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 1:31pm<br /><br />Mtown, care to share an example, or just a case of AJ Smith "blues" today getting you down? Out of touch with reality? Only place to get real info with facts and data. You appear to be the one on te realm of the unreal. Oh,a city employee, we forgot.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=677">Mtown</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 12:51pm<br /><br />I continue to be amazed at how out of touch with reality and more importantly the facts the MiddletownUSA regulars are on virtually every issue you banter about.]]>
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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown : In reality, maybe council is just...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 11:39am<br /><br />In reality, maybe council is just the wrong mechanism to govern a city with 50,000 residents. These people get paid $5,000 annually, mayor double. Throw in the hours just for meeting, and I think none of them are well prepared but ready to rubber stamp anything put in front of them, with one exception. I guess with AJ Smith, the $5,000. gives him enough spending money while he lives at home and conducts his union duties.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>What would the changes be to the motion? Don't have a no strike provision, don't discontinue with the arbitration? Sorry Paul, I just can't get the issues with a simple motion that should have been 7-0.&nbsp;A moot point again, as the state will take care of this without any need for Middletown to act.&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown : Also a good post Guests.    ...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Paul Nagy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 9:45am<br /><br />Also a good post Guests. <DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Sad to me the few council members who speak openly or give any deference to the people who put them in office, are singled out as&nbsp;fantastic and praise worthy. Doesn't reflect much on Middletown's clout nor interest. If you can't get involved or could care less about your own community, how then do you function globally?"</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; They are singled out because we have not had them speak openly or give defference to the people who put them in ofice for many years. I don't believe Middletown has any clout or interest.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Your thinking is good. Lets hope people will respond to it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Anita Scott Jones is a republican.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pn</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Councilman&#039;s Robo-Call Alerts &#039;Folks of Middletown : Nice post Vet. You used a good...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3527<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Dec&nbsp;11&nbsp;2010 at 9:12am<br /><br />Nice post Vet. You used a good term "legacy" costs. Years ago, I worked with the airline industry in driving out their employee costs associated with the industry's deregulation and immediate competitive window they were thrust in the early to mid 1980's, in which about 78% of their capital annual expense, were legacy employment expense. many went bankrupt, and they still are cyclic, associated with fuel expense and other factors.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>These problems cannot be ignored. They are bringing down Spain, Greece, Ireland, states- California one of many, and municipalities- Hariisburg, Pa is a bankrupt city I used to live. Lambaugh simply brought to the table an issue in memorandum. I cannot cmprehend how it might be unartfully crafted. You either need changes and freedom to reduce costs, or you don't. Having&nbsp;75% of expenses tied to labor will bring down any city fast. I suspect Ms. Jones is a Democrat, and was not desiring to disrupt the union propaganda. Becker and others as you said, were caught between their union affiliation, before moving into management, and just decided table it, we'll deal with it later. Frankly, I doubt if any municipality has to do anything, as the state will attempt to change it through legislation, and have the party in place to make the change. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Sad to me the few council members who speak openly or give any deference to the people who put them in office, are singled out as&nbsp;fantastic and praise worthy. Doesn't reflect much on Middletown's clout nor interest. If you can't get involved or could care less about your own community, how then do you function globally?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Subject been beat to death. Will actions be taken? Any transparency on Smith and his robocall funding---doubtful. Did Lambaugh screw up with&nbsp;unartful and ambiguous language---doubtful. Simple fact there are those who talk about cuts, but unwilling to execute cuts. They think they are going to pas a .5 % tax increase, and the fire men will be going door to door to tell all how much time it takes to get to the Atrium and how many runs they make. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I don't think it has a&nbsp;chance of passing, and weak knees rattle too often around the table seating city council.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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