Middletown Forum : American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : News, Info and Happenings outside Middletown : American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 Tue, 06 Oct 2026 18:21:43 +0000 Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:18:32 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3534 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : Don't forget about all them... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24201&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24201 Author: StageRt
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Posted: Dec 17 2010 at 12:18am

Don't forget about all them corporate bosses on the 'A' Plans that also get the delay.
Your 'C' plan doesn't qualify as Cadillac. ]]> Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:18:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24201&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24201 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : THAT would never happen. I mean... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24200&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24200 Author: StageRt
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Posted: Dec 17 2010 at 12:14am

THAT would never happen. I mean it only took 212 years to discern that corporations are 'people' after a corporation was a prime cause of the Revolution.

All those other courts were just obtuse.
]]> Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:14:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24200&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24200 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : Kennedy is the key. In a prior... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24191&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24191 Author: StageRt
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Posted: Dec 16 2010 at 7:37pm

Kennedy is the key. In a prior case Scalia upheld the Commerce Clause. It involved wheat. By growing his own, the farmer would not be buying wheat at the support price. Scalia wrote that this would effect Interstate Commerce and therefore the Farmer lost.
Not that I'm in any way wishing for this, but Scalia is in his middle 70s. There's no guarantee he will even be around in 2 years to hear the case. And Thomas' wife may just shoot his dumb arse.
]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:37:52 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24191&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24191 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : I assume the Supreme Court and... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24189&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24189 Author: Bill
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Posted: Dec 16 2010 at 6:27pm

I assume the Supreme Court and its 5 Republican judges will never dream of overturning this law by "legislating from the bench".  That would make them the dreaded activist judges that conservatives scream about so often.]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:27:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24189&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24189 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : He don't want to hear about... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24173&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24173 Author: Neil Barille
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Posted: Dec 16 2010 at 6:38am

He don't want to hear about no Jeffrey Toobin.  Who da hell is he? Bocephus ain't never heard of him on FauxNews.
 
In Bocephus' world, the last thing we need to worry about is being a fair and competitive society.  In his world, it's ever' man for hisself.  And if that means the U.S. falls farther behind other western countries in edu-ma-cation, infant mortality, life span, gun violence, well dadgumit...dem's the breaks!  Cuz we're FREE here in Amurica!  Freedom fries forever -- yeehaa!
]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:38:59 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24173&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24173 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : StageRt wrote:No, it's... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24172&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24172 Author: Bocephus
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Posted: Dec 16 2010 at 2:53am

Originally posted by StageRt StageRt wrote:

No, it's not AJ. You need to study better. The Unions did not get a waiver. What they, and some others, got was a delay in the Excise Tax application. In 2018 ALL 'Cadillac' Plans will be subject to that tax.

http://factcheck.org/2010/12/health-care-law-waivers/

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/cadillac-plans-and-unions-correlation-minimal/


I'm not that worried about studying it more,I know the basic facts that the fat cat union bosses pushed hard with lip service and money to help get this monstrosity passed but yet they get a delay in the tax call it pay back from obama and the leftist loonies.
]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:53:50 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24172&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24172 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : Sorry Pacman. That was not meant... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24170&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24170 Author: StageRt
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Posted: Dec 15 2010 at 9:44pm

Sorry Pacman. That was not meant as a personal insult.

Last best guess I heard on hitting SCOTUS is about 2 years. That was Jeffery Toobin's guess.
Cuccinelli filed their suit March 23. It's now December.
The Attorneys General case in Florida is along the same legal lines. Although filed at approximately the same time, there are 20 plaintiffs instead of one. Obviously, it's taking more time for the Judge to go through the mountain of plaintiff and amicii briefs. He did pare it down to just the one issue.

I don't know how long the Appeals Hearings will last.

SCOTUS will probably wait for all of the cases to come through Appeals before taking up the issue.

Our Legislature in Florida has a consistent habit of passing unConstitutional Laws. Maybe it's the salt water or, as someone posed, they think since Florida and Federal both start with the letter 'F', we're on an equal footing when it comes to law.
That and SCOTUS handing the 2000 election to Bush.
]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:44:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24170&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24170 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : StageRt wrote:Anybody with... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24169&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24169 Author: Pacman
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Posted: Dec 15 2010 at 8:49pm

Originally posted by StageRt StageRt wrote:

Anybody with half a legal brain knew this thing was going to wind up in the Bush Court.

What is it with people now a days who can't have a conversation without resorting to insults.  It is without doubt that at least one case will reach the Supreme Court.  When is the question some want it now some want the issue to play out in the lower courts.  i would say it is going to go the lower Court route first,  So look for this to hit the Supreme court in a year or more, unless it is fast tracked for some reason.
 
Hell if the people decided to get together and sue every politician or Public Official that wasted money we would have no politicians nor Public officials.  Knock yourself out down there in Florida.   
]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:49:16 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24169&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24169 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24168&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24168 Author: StageRt
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Posted: Dec 15 2010 at 8:22pm

U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson was appointed by R, Reagan. ]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:22:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24168&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24168 American Citizens 2-----Social Agenda 14 : "Vinson threw out four other... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3534&PID=24167&title=american-citizens-2social-agenda-14#24167 Author: StageRt
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Posted: Dec 15 2010 at 8:12pm

"Vinson threw out four other counts of the lawsuit."

Now this case will be heard by the Florida District Judge. It's just now getting to the point the other 3 cases have passed.

Anybody with half a legal brain knew this thing was going to wind up in the Bush Court.

BTW, there's a movement down here, IF the case ultimately gets decided in favor of the Administration, to sue the Attorney General for Malfeasance in Office and wasting the taxpayers money.
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