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   <title>School Funding : Regarding school issues, aside...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1285">keisha008</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Oct&nbsp;15&nbsp;2012 at 1:40am<br /><br />Regarding school issues, aside from school funding, there is no such thing as a relaxed school morning for working parents. In all the disarray, who has time to make school lunches? Pre-packaged items and lunch money are so much easier, right? But by taking just a little time to plan and make preparations in much easier moments, you can effortlessly make them much better lunches, and save money, too. Pay for lunch for your kids with an <a href="http://https://pers&#111;nalm&#111;neynetwork.com/installment-loans/" target="_blank">installment loan</a>.<br><br><br><br>]]>
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   <title>School Funding : Well alright Ms. Andrew!!! I knew...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;07&nbsp;2011 at 3:48pm<br /><br />Well alright Ms. Andrew!!! I knew with a little prodding, you would see it my way.  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" />  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" />  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> Kinda of a satisfying feeling knowing you are on the winning side, right?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" />  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 15:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>School Funding : Mark this down, I am actually...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=529">Marcia Andrew</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;07&nbsp;2011 at 2:17pm<br /><br />Mark this down, I am actually agreeing with Vet on something!&nbsp; As he put it, my point was that any savings pertaining to school board giving up pay is minimal in the overall scheme of things.&nbsp; The "overall scheme of things" is that the district will save $5 million per year due to the restructuring involving Verity and Highview and related cuts announced several months ago, and another $4 million (over 3 years)&nbsp;as a result of the agreement reached with the teachers.&nbsp; Even if the board gave up 100% of its pay, that approximately&nbsp;$20,000 total per year would not be enough to hire back even one hall monitor or library manager, especially when you add in the cost to the district of an employee's retirement and health care benefits.&nbsp;&nbsp; If we cut our pay 1% or even 10%, those numbers are even less signifcant ($150 -- $2250 for the whole board). That is entirely consistent with the fact that eliminating the positions of&nbsp;library managers, plus some assistant principals, directors, custodians, secretaries&nbsp;and other employees, 64.5 in total,&nbsp;does add up to significant dollars.&nbsp;&nbsp; <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Vet is also correct that I missed the humor in LMAO's post, if it was so intended.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Yes, JSmith, it costs some money (not much) to set up sound and whatnot for the board meetings.&nbsp; Would you rather we meet in private, like City Council?&nbsp;&nbsp;No, board members are not reimbursed mileage for driving to and from meetings.&nbsp; No, we don't have meals brought in for meetings, except in rare situations where we are meeting for an extended period of time including meal time.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Yes, all non-union employees of the district will take the same pay cuts and increased benefits costs that the teachers agreed to.&nbsp; That was announced at last night's board meeting.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Finally, while I will not rehash the issue of RIF'ing library managers (which I have posted about in another thread), I have never said that by cutting library managers we were "trimming the fat."&nbsp; In fact, I have explained both publicly and privately that the board and administration believe that the cuts that were made this year were all cutting to the bone, cutting employees that were valuable to the district --any fat had already been cut in prior years.&nbsp; Regardless, difficult decisions still had to be made, and the district will have to find ways to get the job done with the remaining staff --reorganizing job duties, restructuring the way things are done in the buildings, relying more on volunteers, etc. </DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>School Funding : Mrs. Andrews and Mr. Barille -...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=650">cmason54</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 10:40pm<br /><br /><FONT size=2 face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Mrs. Andrews and Mr. Barille - I am one of the library managers who lost her job after 15 years with Middletown City Schools.&nbsp; I didn't make much money, less than $30,000.00 a year but I loved my job and I loved those kids.&nbsp; I went above and beyond, as did all the library managers who were let go.&nbsp; We all did the jobs of certified librarians who make over $60,000.00 a year.&nbsp;&nbsp;<DIV>When we were all laid off, I personally wrote a letter to the superintendent and the school board members and Mrs. Andrews wrote me back and told me that every penny counted towards "trimming the fat" so I should quit complaining about losing my job, not take it personally&nbsp;and move on.&nbsp; So, I personally&nbsp;take offense to her comments that the amount the board is paid won't make a difference especially when I had to apply for unemployment today.</DIV></FONT>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>School Funding : Vet....I believe all the information...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=791">jsmith2011</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 4:32pm<br /><br />Vet....I believe all the information you asked is available to us through the Freedom of Information Act.  I will take it upon myself to go to the board office, research each job description and salary for each employee starting with the superintendent down to the assistant principals (although I think they now have other positions) and post it on here. I would also like to see the contracts and salaries of the administrators from this past school year and their salary for next school year.  All the teachers are taking a 1% cut and have been told it will be across the board.  Wanna bet?<br /><br />Give me a few months (or before the next levy in 2012).]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>School Funding : My issue isn&amp;#039;t what the board...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=791">jsmith2011</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 4:28pm<br /><br />My issue isn't what the board gets paid or how much time they put in or don't put in.....my issue is that no matter what the question, the answer is never the same.....and if it is, you can't believe it anyway.<br /><br />Also, go talk to that one hall monitor or one aide or one library manager who are now filing for unemployment....<br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>School Funding : LMAO, in response to comments...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 3:09pm<br /><br /> &#091;QUOTE=Marcia Andrew&#093; LMAO, in response to comments about the agreement reached with the teachers union, which will save about $4 million over 3 years, you state, "Can save even more money if the BOE would take a cut in pay."<br /><br /><br />Man, I misread the message from LMAO on that one. Ms. Andrew didn't notice the  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> after LMAO's message as if to imply (in a joking fashion) that he was aware the amount wasn't alot and the savings would be nominal. I wonder if the message was taken as written (joking) by Ms. Andrew? Does appear she took it in a serious nature with her defensive posture. The savings pertaining to the school board giving up pay is minimal in the overall scheme of things, isn't it? Need to attack the admin. positions/re-evaluate the job duties for actual need in the entire organization to really make a dent in the old budget, don't we Ms. Andrew? Why aren't we cutting more assistants (primarily principals) in the schools? Has the school board gotten a breakout of all the positions and are sure the super has made as many cuts as possible? Surely there must be some overlap and duplication in areas. No areas where there could be some shared duties while eliminating some more positions? Have you cut to the bare bone or is there still some excess?]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>School Funding : You&amp;#039;re really going to make...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=645">Neil Barille</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 2:25pm<br /><br />You're really going to make an issue of a few thousand dollars for all the time the BOE members put in?&nbsp; Really?&nbsp; So if ALL of them skipped these payments the MCSD could save, what, ONE hall monitor?]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>School Funding : I find Mrs. Andrews remarks about...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=791">jsmith2011</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 1:53pm<br /><br />I find Mrs. Andrews remarks about the board and their salary truly astonishing.  When the board was letting the aides, hall monitors and library managers go, after some having as much as 27 years with the school district, every little bit counted then and it was referred to as "trimming the fat".  Some of those employees made that much in a year and someone's job could have been saved.  When it's the school board, it won't make a real difference? <br /><br />What about the other costs of the board meetings?  Paying people to set up the sound and to prepare the rooms at the different schools?  Isn't it true at your meetings you have lunch or dinner brought in?  I'm sure you are all paid mileage to go to and from your meetings.  What other costs are involved?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />No wonder people continue to "beat a dead horse".  You can't believe anything you hear.  The facts are changed each time.]]>
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   <title>School Funding : Ms Andrew,Every little bit helps.We...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=469">LMAO</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3740<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 1:08pm<br /><br />Ms Andrew,Every little bit helps.We taxpayers pay a hell&nbsp; of alot more.Everytime the district wants more you come with your hands out. Be understandable if we actually seen progress in the district. Teachers are taking a cut why not donate your $125 back to the district? Remember its for the kids?<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Smile" />]]>
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