Middletown Forum : Look at those salaries http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Income and Property Tax : Look at those salaries Tue, 06 Oct 2026 06:57:28 +0000 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:42:43 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3744 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Look at those salaries : These two posts (jsmith2011, sickofthebull)... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27187&title=look-at-those-salaries#27187 Author: ground swat
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Posted: Apr 29 2011 at 7:42pm

These two posts (jsmith2011, sickofthebull) have a lot to say and seem to be quite versed in some (Inside) info. Damage control might be needed here from the school board folks who watch this site?]]> Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:42:43 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27187&title=look-at-those-salaries#27187 Look at those salaries : Children having children, teachers... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27186&title=look-at-those-salaries#27186 Author: ground swat
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Posted: Apr 29 2011 at 7:35pm

Children having children, teachers who know it all. God forbid they(The system) might listen to the so called (Outsiders) of education. I need to hire people that can solve problems, know wonder I'm thinking about running ads. in China for my open positions.]]> Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:35:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27186&title=look-at-those-salaries#27186 Look at those salaries : Tony I have students who cannot... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27181&title=look-at-those-salaries#27181 Author: sickofthebull
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Posted: Apr 29 2011 at 12:57pm

Tony I have students who cannot read past the 1st or 2nd grade level and are about to go on to middle school. I have been told from day one of my employment that we cannot retain students. I have seen no formal mandate on this in writing, it is just understood that we don't do it. VERY frustrating because the majority of the year is spent trying to catch these poor kids up and guess who suffers? You got it, the kids who are on grade level. The focus is on the behind kids because they have to take a grade level test and pass it.]]> Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:57:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27181&title=look-at-those-salaries#27181 Look at those salaries : sickofthebull - thank you for... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27159&title=look-at-those-salaries#27159 Author: TonyB
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Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 2:43pm

sickofthebull - thank you for your post. I take serious exception to "passing the buck" when it comes to a child and his or her future. I'd like to know who at ADMIN is telling you that you have to pass them on, no matter what. It would also be interesting to hear Ms. Andrew comment on this matter. If you're not going to teach children, why should we pay for what we're not getting!!! I would like to know; Is this the policy of MCSD that every child passes no matter their academic progress? If it is not, why is an employee (that's an assumption) telling us that is the policy? Quite frankly, this opens up the school district to litigation if this is the policy, IMO.

]]> Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:43:19 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27159&title=look-at-those-salaries#27159 Look at those salaries : Not allowed to hold them back... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27157&title=look-at-those-salaries#27157 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 12:08pm

Not allowed to hold them back even though they are not ready to progress to the next grade? Admin. must be in a big hurry to get rid of the ones who are not "gifted" or who can't seem to grasp what is taught the first time it is delivered. Let's keep the challenging kids moving through at a rapid rate to purge quicker.

This school district is so proud of the "gifted" kids and are always bragging about the kids in this group. They tolerate the "regular" kids who are successful but not "bragging" material. They ship the kids who are a challenge off to an "alternative" school and the rest.......well, they are written off as failures and end up dropping out to sponge off society for the most part.

So, basically, the school district motto seems to be......the kids who are easy to educate and who excel we brag about. The rest we tolerate or we hope they go away. ]]> Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:08:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27157&title=look-at-those-salaries#27157 Look at those salaries : Tony, to be fair...we aren't... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27156&title=look-at-those-salaries#27156 Author: sickofthebull
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Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 11:35am

Tony, to be fair...we aren't allowed to hold them back...that's from ADMIN

Originally posted by TonyB TonyB wrote:

Vet - you sound as if you think I disagree with you. I do not. I know a specific individual that has the benefit of a Middletown Schools education who cannot read. They just passed him along rather than fix this or admit responsibility. It is this kind of thing I'm talking about. I've said it before, I don't mind spending the money, but I want what I pay for!!! There is no justification of any kind for someone to get through school without being able to read!!! Do you think those tests showed that? Our section 8 housing situation is exacerbating the problem. We've had these tests now for how long? No improvement. Well, let's just test some more. Tell the teachers that their jobs and salary increases depend on kids passing those tests and that is all teachers will do; teach to pass those tests and that's it. There is more to life than passing a test.
 

I also agree, you cannot do the same thing and expect a different result. Yet, we continue to elect the same 2 parties to office always with the promise of change. What has changed is the US is being bled to death by 1000 little cuts while our elected officials help to speed the process. Let's vote these people and these two parties out of office. Then, perhaps we can have a sensible, non-partisan debate about how to slove our problems.
]]> Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:35:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=27156&title=look-at-those-salaries#27156 Look at those salaries : I still belive there was a conspiracy... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=26275&title=look-at-those-salaries#26275 Author: tomahawk35
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Posted: Mar 31 2011 at 10:17pm

I still belive there was a conspiracy when the schools were losing so many students to open enrollment to other schools that the city started this section 8 influx to prop up attendance so the school wouldn't lose so much state money. I can't prove it but the timing sure speaks volume.AngryAngry]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:17:01 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=26275&title=look-at-those-salaries#26275 Look at those salaries : Vet - I graduated from Monroe... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=26270&title=look-at-those-salaries#26270 Author: TonyB
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Posted: Mar 31 2011 at 7:27pm

Vet - I graduated from Monroe in 76 even though I lived in Middletown. I can't speak to the quality of education at Middletown High School at the time, but I am reasonably satisfied with the education I was provided with by the Middletown City School District. I wonder if there are others on this forum who went to school in the 80's who could speak to whether they feel they got a good education. Honestly, I can't speak to the quality of the education at MHS because I don't know.
I also have no idea about whether families have computers. Hell, I can barely afford a computer. The comment was really more about the cable TV and gaming systems.I was thinking more about priorities.  I agree there should be enough computers for every school. With all of our new schools here, we should be able to plug them all in, too! By the way, if you know where I can get a good computer for free... lol
]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:27:11 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=26270&title=look-at-those-salaries#26270 Look at those salaries : Disagree TonyB.....The Section... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=26269&title=look-at-those-salaries#26269 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Mar 31 2011 at 7:03pm

Disagree TonyB.....The Section 8 onslaught is relatively new to this city. The poor performance started long before this low income saturation. We saw poor performance in the 80's.....before the current city leader low income saturation was even thought of. The Section 8 cluster just added to the misery.

As to your computer at home comment.....

There is absolutely no excuse for ANY home, poor or rich, not to have a computer for the family. There are warehouses full of computer systems collecting dust at P&G and I'm sure most corporations have the same situation. Hell, there's enough computer inventory rolling out of corporate America to equip every student in every classroom in America. The corporate people need to let lose of them and distribute them to the schools or have community computer give-aways. If this weren't enough, why don't computer businesses have a low income voucher program where families can get a basic system at a greatly discounted price for their kids at home? The government is quick to give out unemployment money to them, why not computer system purchase money. Might help educate the kids so they won't follow in their parents footsteps as permanent welfare recipients or stuck in a low income lifestyle. ]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:03:23 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=26269&title=look-at-those-salaries#26269 Look at those salaries : Vet - might be all the Section... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3744&PID=26263&title=look-at-those-salaries#26263 Author: TonyB
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Posted: Mar 31 2011 at 4:15pm

Vet - might be all the Section 8 housing children keeping those scores so low. I don't care how many improvements they make, at the end of the school day, these kids have to go home. If education is not valued at home, all the improvements in the world won't solve the problem.Lower income families need to understand the value of a public education and need to do a better job of encouraging their children to succeed at school. I wonder how many Section 8 homes have a computer? Then again, I wonder how many have a gaming system and cable TV. It is first and foremost, a matter of priorities within the home. Until that changes, no amount of money will solve the problem
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