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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great : What I heard last night after...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;03&nbsp;2011 at 9:06am<br /><br />What I heard last night after the bios, back-slapping and self-congratulations: <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>"Let 'em eat cake!!</DIV><DIV>Thank you--time to party down!!!"</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>a subtle message brought by Spider &amp; Co.from the fall:</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3SAOJpJ5w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3SAOJpJ5w</A></DIV>]]>
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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great : tomahawk - the crooked big potato...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=755">TonyB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 12:53pm<br /><br />tomahawk - the crooked big potato ones aren't so great, either! Just stay here and vote and maybe we can start from the local to the national to retake our government.]]>
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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great : Wouldn&amp;#039;t it be easier to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 10:49am<br /><br />Wouldn't it be easier to ask the few people who are on council and the upper echelon in the city building to leave town rather than to ask the other 47,970 people to leave? After all, they're the problem here, not the citizens. I would imagine most who know what is happening in this town would want them gone too. I'm not going anywhere. We can all send them packing with the correct candidates and the ousting at the polls of these people who have created this cluster. Most came later than I. Not leaving because the Johnny-come-lately's are in charge.....at least for now. It's still OUR town and we could do something about this. The apathy here is allowing them to run it the way they want.]]>
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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great :   TonyB wrote:tomahawk, I would...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=190">tomahawk35</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 11:30pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by TonyB" alt="Originally posted by TonyB" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>TonyB wrote:</strong><br /><br />tomahawk, I would say to you the same thing I said to acclaro;</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Tony B. I understand where you are coming from and appreciate it but in reality I am so sick of this dump of a town and these crooked small potato politicians who are in it for their buddies and themselves while degrading the intelligence of the tax paying citizens. It's a shame that tar and feathers are outlawed.]]>
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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great :   ground swat wrote:I think he...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=190">tomahawk35</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 11:21pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ground swat" alt="Originally posted by ground swat" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ground swat wrote:</strong><br /><br />I think he might like to take that comment back, It looked to me as though he couldn't belief he said it.&nbsp; Not one of his finer moments.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>Maybe AJ had a good ideal when he said Mulligan must go and as he is leaving maybe we could put AJ in the trunk.<img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /><img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /><img src="http://middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=755">TonyB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 11:18pm<br /><br />tomahawk, I would say to you the same thing I said to acclaro; ]]>
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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great :   Mike_Presta wrote:  The mayor...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=190">tomahawk35</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 11:06pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" alt="Originally posted by Mike_Presta" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mike_Presta wrote:</strong><br /><br /><SPAN lang=EN> <P>The mayor showed how receptive city hall is to anyone who disagrees in the slightest with their risky schemes and devil-may-care, wasteful spending:</P><BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><P><FONT size=2><strong><EM>“I tell the naysayers to pack their bags and leave town”</EM></strong> </FONT>the mayor&nbsp;sneered gleefully.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><P>With that kind of attitude, I wish the mayor would’ve given his $4,000.00 speech during one of his semi-secret council work sessions. It would have hidden our town leaders’ “my-way-or-the-highway” attitude from our neighboring communities.</P></SPAN></td></tr></table> If the Mayor said this,buy my home with some of that money you keep throwing&nbsp;around and I will be more&nbsp;than glad to get the hell out of this dump that he calls a town.]]>
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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great : TonyB, recalling my math, a double...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 12:22pm<br /><br />TonyB, recalling my math, a double - is a + (LOL), aka (-2)(-2)= 4. Sorry, neeed some levity. Funny Larry indicated Mr. Smith's protest was a right everyone had to their opinion but told all whom don't latch on to the double negative theory to LEAVE TOWN!]]>
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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great : acclaro - my statement above was...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=755">TonyB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 11:44am<br /><br />acclaro - my statement above was partly in jest, however; look at the CEO of Goldman Sachs. Made out like a bandit and then his company had to be bailed out by the taxpayers.<DIV></DIV>I'm not sure about the positive means we're moving forward. Moving forward also means correcting those things that are problems. Our finances are strained because we have lost population. That is realistic but not positive. We have lost businesses which also contributes to our strained financial situation. Realistic but not positive. It is turning negatives into positive action that moves us forward. By all means, stress the positive; but don't forget that negatives can be turned into positives when you actively strive to correct those negatives. Saying "if you don't like it, leave" is not only negative; it's a a double negative!!!]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Moving Middletown From Good to Great : TonyB, with all due respect, I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3756<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Apr&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 11:35am<br /><br />TonyB, with all due respect, I can tell you in the corporate world, and I have had the privilege of being a corporate officer of a F500, the best you can do is perhaps a 3 year contract, stock options, and for many at the most senior level below CEO, you're lucky to get a contract at all. I've seen many SVP's/ EVP's fired on the spot, maybe walk with six months severance, and black eyes emotionally, for not being able to recite like a computer, a financial ratio or strategic direction in one of 20 SBU's. It is the Board's that give these big packages, not the shareholders, and there is always that remedy---called litigation, by shareholders whom won't tolerate the stacked Board's gift. Look at Mark Hurd, former CEO at HP.He;s being sued by HP and the shareholders. <DIV>I digress, lets focus on Middletown and the PolyAnna continuum. </DIV><DIV><P style="FONT-SIZE: 15px"><strong>“I thought it was a very positive but realistic portrayal of our finances,” said Sam Ashworth. “As long as we stress the positive that means we are moving forward.”</strong></P><DIV></DIV><strong>Lets use some analogies to the above:</strong><DIV><strong>&nbsp;</strong></DIV><DIV>i) school district stays on CI but a 61.3 is better than a 61.1, so that's stressing the positive</DIV><DIV>ii)&nbsp;Instead of tearing down the Manchester, we are giving it to C State so we have some institution downtown.</DIV><DIV>iii) we are changing our&nbsp;regulations at the Renaissance because so we can build more houses as the price point is too large to attract those buyers in the $300,000 range.</DIV><DIV>iv) we put up cameras because it will prevent accidents.</DIV><DIV>v) we are buying equipment to pave streets which residents will pay us to do so they don't have to wait 50 years to have the city do what they should have been doing the past 25 years.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>As&nbsp;Sam says, if we just say something positive, we are all moving forward. But, if we say what is negative, and real, that means we are moving backward. Lets all say something positive so we can imagine we are moving forward. Dreaming....an escape from reality,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>]]>
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