Middletown Forum : Midd.'s Preschool Program http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : School Board : Midd.'s Preschool Program Tue, 06 Oct 2026 20:11:12 +0000 Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:59:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3809 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Midd.'s Preschool Program : Marcia Andrew wrote:Vet, I... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27049&title=midds-preschool-program#27049 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 21 2011 at 7:59pm

Originally posted by Marcia Andrew Marcia Andrew wrote:

Vet, I already addressed your questions about the bus routes and reasons why some busses might stop directly at a house versus a street corner, in another thread.  I don't have anything more to say on the subject.



You are correct Ms. Andrew. No further discussion is needed. ]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:59:08 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27049&title=midds-preschool-program#27049 Midd.'s Preschool Program : Vet, I already addressed your... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27048&title=midds-preschool-program#27048 Author: Marcia Andrew
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Posted: Apr 21 2011 at 6:42pm

Vet, I already addressed your questions about the bus routes and reasons why some busses might stop directly at a house versus a street corner, in another thread.  I don't have anything more to say on the subject.

]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:42:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27048&title=midds-preschool-program#27048 Midd.'s Preschool Program : Middletown Scouter, The negotiations... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27047&title=midds-preschool-program#27047 Author: Marcia Andrew
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Posted: Apr 21 2011 at 6:41pm

Middletown Scouter,
 
The negotiations with Petermann are still in process, so no written contract has yet been presented to the Board. But my understanding of the framework is that Petermann will provide bussing services to the district as directed by the district. If in at some time we decide we have to cut bussing to state minimums, then Petermann would only provide that amount of state bussing. If we decide to change the start time of the elementary schools, they would have to provide bus routes to accomodate that start time. Etc.
]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:41:12 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27047&title=midds-preschool-program#27047 Midd.'s Preschool Program : Vet, there is no inconsistency.... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27013&title=midds-preschool-program#27013 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 20 2011 at 6:36am

[QUOTE=Marcia Andrew] Vet, there is no inconsistency. Folino was asked about the teachers she supervises -- the preschool teachers -- and answered, truthfully, that none of them would be out of a job even though the preschool positions were being transferred to the ESC. They can apply for the job with the ESC, or, since they are all certified to teach preK through grade 3, they can bump a teacher with less seniority in one of those grades, as the Superintendent mentioned.  Whether or not that "bumped" teacher ends up without a job depends on how many teachers take the early retirement option offered by the board.  We will reduce the number of teachers as a result of Verity/Highview moves, but if enough retirements occur, there will be no need to RIF teachers. 


Ok Ms. Andrew, just a difference in interpretation between the both of us. I read it that Folino says the teachers will be retained and Rasmussen says, what a minute, not so fast, some could lose their jobs by being bumped by more senior teachers. No big deal. ]]> Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:36:35 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27013&title=midds-preschool-program#27013 Midd.'s Preschool Program : Speaking of transportation and... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27012&title=midds-preschool-program#27012 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 20 2011 at 6:30am

Speaking of transportation and buses, Ms. Andrew, the bus number is 51. Around 4:30PM each evening when I cut through the Oaks on my way home, I notice that this bus is providing door to door service to the Oaks people and to a family on Rachel Lane a few houses down from me. We discussed this once before and I still have questions on why not a common designated bus stop as in past years? Just seems as if the buses are being used as a private taxi service rather than in typical bus fashion. Curious as to why it could be construed as a "limo service" arraignment? ]]> Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:30:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27012&title=midds-preschool-program#27012 Midd.'s Preschool Program : Mrs. Andrew, since you brought... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27005&title=midds-preschool-program#27005 Author: middletownscouter
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Posted: Apr 19 2011 at 3:52pm

Mrs. Andrew, since you brought up the transportation, I saw someone on the Journal's sound off that had made a statement I think would be a valid question. If MCSD signs a contract with Peterman to handle bussing for the district, in the future if there should be a new levy or renewal that does not pass in the election, would MCSD be hamstringed in how it could change bussing options to reduce costs since it would have a contract with Peterman?]]> Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:52:27 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=27005&title=midds-preschool-program#27005 Midd.'s Preschool Program : Vet, there is no inconsistency.... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=26997&title=midds-preschool-program#26997 Author: Marcia Andrew
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Posted: Apr 19 2011 at 1:34pm

Vet, there is no inconsistency. Folino was asked about the teachers she supervises -- the preschool teachers -- and answered, truthfully, that none of them would be out of a job even though the preschool positions were being transferred to the ESC. They can apply for the job with the ESC, or, since they are all certified to teach preK through grade 3, they can bump a teacher with less seniority in one of those grades, as the Superintendent mentioned.  Whether or not that "bumped" teacher ends up without a job depends on how many teachers take the early retirement option offered by the board.  We will reduce the number of teachers as a result of Verity/Highview moves, but if enough retirements occur, there will be no need to RIF teachers. 
 
The district continues to run its preschool progam itself through the end of this school year, and still needs a coordinator for that time. This is similar to someone on another thread asking why we needed a transportation supervisor when we were outsourcing transportation. We have not yet signed a contract to outsource transportation, and when we do, it won't take effect until the next school year.  If we do sign a bussing contract with Peterman, the MCSD transportation supervisor will become an employee of Petermann. 
 
Hermes, the school board directed the superintendent to develop a budget that would push out as far as possible, given the uncertainties with the state budget, the need for any additional operating levy. He did so, proposing more than $5 million in cuts. There will be no school levy on the ballot this year.
]]> Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:34:48 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=26997&title=midds-preschool-program#26997 Midd.'s Preschool Program : No need to worry the next school... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=26996&title=midds-preschool-program#26996 Author: Hermes
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Posted: Apr 19 2011 at 1:03pm

No need to worry the next school levy will solve all the problems.And it's probably just a rumor.You can't believe everything you read in the Journal.]]> Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:03:32 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=26996&title=midds-preschool-program#26996 Midd.'s Preschool Program : From the Journal... Butler County... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=26989&title=midds-preschool-program#26989 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Apr 19 2011 at 6:31am

From the Journal...

Butler County ESC to run Middletown preschool program

MIDDLETOWN — The Butler County Educational Service Center will run Middletown’s preschool program next year as the district continues to search for ways to alleviate costs

Wendy Folino, preschool coordinator for Middletown schools, said if not hired by BCESC, her educators will still serve with the district in some capacity.

“No one will be losing their jobs,” she said. “They will still be teachers within our district.”

Still, those educators may bump others with less seniority, Rasmussen said.

Now, wait a minute....Folino says no one will be losing their job...they will still be teachers in our district. Rasmussen says some educators may bump others with less seniority. Someone is going to lose their job Folino. Which is it...can't be both. Furthermore, is there a need for Folino's job as "preschool coordinator" since Butler County is taking over this program? With each Journal article, there seems to be mentioned another "hidden" position within the Midd. district that isn't on the normal radar. Here is an opportunity to provide more cuts in personnel Ms. Andrew. I suspect the school district is still a little "bloated" with multi-layer positions. ]]> Tue, 19 Apr 2011 06:31:36 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3809&PID=26989&title=midds-preschool-program#26989