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   <title>Where will the meeting be??? :  Oh, and given the City Law Director&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3839<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2011 at 11:15am<br /><br /><FONT size=1 face=CGTimes,Bold><FONT size=1 face=CGTimes,Bold><DIV><FONT size=2 face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, and given the City Law Director's new penchant for the letter of the law, I guess he'll be busy preparing a report to the Butler County Prosecuting Attorney regarding the failure of the City of Middletown to comply with </FONT><strong><FONT size=2 face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">§ 208.03 (b) </FONT></strong><FONT size=2>of the City's Codified Ordinances, and a report to the Attorney General of the State of Ohio regarding the City's failure to comply with <strong>ORC 121.22 (F)</strong></FONT><FONT size=2><strong>:</strong></FONT></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><DIV><FONT size=2>"Every public body, by rule, shall establish a reasonable method whereby any person may determine the time and place of all regularly scheduled meetings and the time, place, and purpose of all special meetings."</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><FONT size=2>It has obviously been demonstrated that "the time and place" of this week's meetings could not have been determined by "any person"!!!</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT size=2><strong><EM>Go get 'em, Counselor!!!</EM></strong></FONT></DIV></FONT></FONT>]]>
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   <title>Where will the meeting be??? : This week&amp;#039;s City Manager&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3839<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2011 at 10:36am<br /><br />This week's City Manager's Newsletter has just arrived, and it contains the latest <FONT size=2>entry in the <strong><FONT color=#990000>"When and Where Will City Council Meet Next Sweepstakes" </FONT></strong>!!!&nbsp; According to this newsletter:<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><DIV></FONT><FONT face=TTE297E578t00>"May 5 City Council Budget meeting w/ Staff City Bldg. location <strong><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>TBD</FONT></strong> 5:00 p.m."</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><FONT face=TTE297E578t00>Yes, folks, that's right!!!&nbsp; "location TBD" (To Be Determined)!!!&nbsp; Ya gotta hand it to our City Manager--no one will be able to say that she is "wrong" with this latest entry.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=TTE297E578t00></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT face=TTE297E578t00>Sort of makes it tough on anyone who wants to attend, though, doesn't it???</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=TTE297E578t00></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT face=TTE297E578t00><strong><EM><FONT size=2>If this fiasco doesn't convince council to hold ALL meetings in their City Council Chambers, they all ought to have their heads examined (and be voted out at the earliest opportunity)!!!</FONT></EM></strong></DIV></FONT>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 10:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Where will the meeting be??? : Now, who wants to guess whether...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3839<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2011 at 4:00am<br /><br />Now, who wants to guess whether or not this regular/special meeting will be televised???<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Could City Council possibly have the gall to refuse to televise the budget discussions (some budget discussions have already been held during the semi-secret, upstairs "work" sessions) but still ask the citizens for MORE TAX MONEY???</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Could even our nervy council have THAT much gall, as to discuss the budget in as closed a session as they can possibly get by with, and still expect the public to support their conclusions without being privy to the discussions???</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 04:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Where will the meeting be??? : We have a new entry in the &amp;#034;When...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3839<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;04&nbsp;2011 at 3:51am<br /><br /><FONT size=2>We have a new entry in the <strong><FONT color=#990000>"When and Where Will City Council Meet Next Sweepstakes" </FONT></strong>!!! <DIV></DIV>According to the 12:44 a. m. version of a&nbsp;story in the on-line version of the local newspaper: <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><DIV>"City Council will hold a <FONT color=#ff0000><strong>special meeting </strong></FONT>to discuss $3.7 million in cuts to the 2012 budget Thursday. The meeting will begin at <FONT color=#ff0000><strong>5 p.m.</strong></FONT> in <strong><EM><FONT color=#ff0000>council chambers</FONT></EM></strong>, One Donham Plaza."</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV>Please recall that all earlier reports from this source indicated that the meeting would be in Conference room 2C.&nbsp; Now they seem to agree with Mayor Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr. that it will be held in Council Chambers, but our newspaper of record states that it will be a <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>"special meeting"</FONT></strong> while the Mayor indicated that it will be a continuation of Tuesday's<FONT color=#ff0000><strong> "regular meeting"</strong> </FONT>!!!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The City Manager has not yet chimed in with her revised guess at where and when it will be held, but&nbsp;her &nbsp;new weekly newsletter is due out any time now with her new entry in the sweepstakes!!!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Is anyone else confused???&nbsp; A good deal of the confusion could be eliminated if Council would simply <strong><EM>hold ALL council meetings in City Council Chambers!!!</EM></strong></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Then we would only have to guess about the day, time, and the type of meeting!!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" /></DIV></FONT>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 03:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Where will the meeting be??? : Tonight, during the regular city...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3839<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;03&nbsp;2011 at 8:54pm<br /><br />Tonight, during the regular city council meeting, Mayor Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr., stated that the special meeting for budget discussions would not be a special meeting.&nbsp; He stated that it would be a continuation of this (tonight's) regular meeting and it would be held <FONT color=#ff0000><strong>"Thurday here in Council Chambers."</strong> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#000000>So, now we have TWO different days: Wednesday, <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>May 4</FONT></strong>, and Thursday, <FONT color=#ff0000><strong>May 5</strong></FONT>; and THREE different locations: Conference Room <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>2C</FONT></strong>, Meeting Room <FONT color=#ff0000><strong>4C</strong></FONT>, and <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>Council Chambers</FONT></strong>!!!</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><strong><EM>So, does ANYONE actually know <FONT color=#ff0000>when</FONT> and <FONT color=#ff0000>where</FONT> this meeting will be held????</EM></strong></FONT></DIV></FONT>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 20:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Where will the meeting be??? : So, two meetings of council in...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3839<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;03&nbsp;2011 at 5:13am<br /><br /><FONT size=2>So, two meetings of council in ONE week, and between the <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>City Manager</FONT></strong> and the<strong><FONT color=#ff0000> city's newspaper of record</FONT></strong>, they cannot get it straight WHERE the city council meetings will be held!!!</FONT> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong><EM><FONT size=2>Should it take any more reason than that for all City Council meetings to be held in City Council Chambers???</FONT></EM></strong></DIV><DIV><strong><EM><FONT size=2></FONT></EM></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong><EM><FONT size=2>On the other hand, I guess City Council and the Manager are getting their wish:&nbsp; They have confused everyone, <FONT color=#990033>even the newspaper of record</FONT>, as to the location of City Council meetings!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; The desire for secrecy is being met!!!</FONT></EM></strong></DIV><DIV><strong><EM></EM></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong><EM><FONT color=#006600 size=4>What is being discussed that you are so ashamed or afraid to discuss in full view of as many Middletonians as possible???</FONT></EM></strong></DIV><DIV><FONT color=#006600 size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 05:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Where will the meeting be??? :      Where will tonight&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3839<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;03&nbsp;2011 at 5:04am<br /><br /><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00><SPAN lang=EN><P dir=ltr>Where will tonight’s <B><I>city council work session</B></I> be held???</P><P dir=ltr>According to the City Manager’s latest newsletter:</P><DIV dir=ltr><DIR><P>“May 3 Council Work Session City building Conf. Rm. <B><FONT color=#ff0000>4C</B></FONT> 5:30 p.m.”</P></DIR></DIV><P>According to a story this morning in a local newspaper:</P><BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><P>“City Council will discuss the street policy during the work session beginning at 5:30 p.m. in conference room <B><FONT color=#ff0000>2C</B></FONT>.</SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00>Of course, they could just hold <strong><EM>ALL</EM></strong> City Council meetings in City Council CHAMBERS, but that would be too simple, wouldn't it???&nbsp; &#091;It would also allow the meetings to be broadcast to <strong><EM>THE PUBLIC</EM></strong>, and we can't have that now, can we???&nbsp; After all, an informed electorate could be very dangerous to some of these folks, both elected <strong><EM>and</EM></strong> appointed!!!&#093;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV><DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00><strong><EM><FONT size=3>WHY is City Hall so afraid of an informed electorate???</FONT></EM></strong></DIV></FONT></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 05:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Where will the meeting be??? : When and where is the budget meeting???  According...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3839<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 5:10am<br /><br />When and where is the budget meeting???<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong><EM>According to the latest City Manager's newsletter:</EM></strong></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><DIV><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00>"<FONT color=#ff0000><strong>May 5</strong></FONT> <FONT color=#0000ff>&#091;Thursday&#093;</FONT> City Council Budget meeting w/ Staff City Bldg. <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>4C</FONT></strong> 5:00 p.m."</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00><strong><EM>According to a story in today's local newspaper:</EM></strong></FONT></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><DIV><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00>"City Council has scheduled a special budget meeting <FONT color=#ff0000><strong>Wednesday</strong></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff> &#091;May 4&#093;</FONT>&nbsp;in conference room <strong><FONT color=#ff0000>2C</FONT></strong> in the city building"</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00>So when and where will the meeting be held???&nbsp; And are these just honest mistakes...or intentional misdirections to try to keep the budget meeting as<strong><EM> PRIVATE</EM></strong> as possible???</FONT></DIV><DIV dir=ltr>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00>Of course, they could just hold <strong><EM>ALL</EM></strong> City Council meetings in City Council CHAMBERS, but that would be too simple, wouldn't it???&nbsp; &#091;It would also allow the meetings to be broadcast to <strong><EM>THE PUBLIC</EM></strong>, and we can't have that now, can we???&nbsp; After all, an informed electorate could be very dangerous to some of these folks, both elected <strong><EM>and</EM></strong> appointed!!!&#093;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV><DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=TTE2A2E2D8t00><strong><EM><FONT size=3>WHY is City Hall so afraid of an informed electorate???</FONT></EM></strong></DIV></FONT>]]>
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