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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions :  Hmm&#226;&#8364;&#166;I think I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;ve got it!!!...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 5:24pm<br /><br /><SPAN lang=EN><P><FONT size=2>Hmm…I think I’ve got it!!! Maybe the Fuhrer-ette plans to have the children cited for <EM><strong>playing in an unlicensed spray ground!!!</strong></EM> Maybe it’s the latest part of her plan for “revenue enhancement”!!!</P><DIV><img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The money from the fines could go towards a doggie park, or perhaps an extra nice vintage of wine at the next party at the Pendleton Art Center.</DIV></FONT></SPAN>]]>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions : I can stand by my statement Mr....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=695">middletownscouter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 10:18am<br /><br />I can stand by my statement Mr. P.  Not only did I personally see the splash pad at Smith Park in operation on Thursday 6/2/11, but my wife took my kids to the splash pad on Memorial Day - 5/30/11.  Had I not been napping after the parade I would have told her to go to Douglass instead.]]>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions :  I guess that I am the one who...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 10:14am<br /><br /><SPAN lang=EN><P>I<FONT size=2> guess that I am the one who first “reported” this under:</FONT></P><B><BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><P><FONT size=2>Topic: 5/17/2011 Workbook</FONT></B><BR><FONT size=2>Posted: 14 May 2011 at 3:30am</FONT></P><P><FONT size=2>The next thing that made me go<B><I> “hmm”</B></FONT></I><FONT size=2> was found in the April 12, 2011, BOARD OF HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT MINUTES. On page 19 of 71 of the workbook, Environmental Health Director, Carla Ealy, reported:</FONT></P><DIR><P><FONT size=2>“Last month Janay and I attended a public swimming pool meeting held by Ohio Department of Health regarding the new rules that were effective April 1st. The main revision of the rules is regarding spray grounds. We have two located in Middletown, Smith Park and Douglas Park; however,<B><I><FONT color=#ff0000> only Douglas is licensable.</B></FONT></I><FONT size=2> </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2>This is determined by whether or not the water recirculates. Recirculated water requires a disinfection system. There are other minor updates for public swimming pools that we will address during our routine inspections.”</FONT></P></DIR><B><I><P><FONT size=2>Hmm…???</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></B></I><P><FONT size=2>I guess that I “reported” it again earlier in this thread.</FONT></P><P><FONT size=2>If Middletownscouter is accurate in “reporting”: </FONT><FONT size=2>“Smith Park's splash pad was certainly in operation last week on Thursday…”, </FONT><FONT size=2>then&nbsp;the question becomes: <B><I><FONT color=#ff0000>Is the City of Middletown operating an unlicensed spray ground??? </FONT></B></FONT></I><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000>&nbsp;</FONT>I don’t know, I’m just asking the question!!!</FONT></P><P><FONT size=2>One would think that our City Law Director and officer of the court, Les Landen, Esquire, would either stop it or would report it to the proper officials, if the City were in violation of any regulations. </FONT></P><DIV><FONT size=2>That is what he said he would do in a recent council meeting!!!</FONT>&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></DIV></SPAN>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 10:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions : I remember that article.  It basically...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=695">middletownscouter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 8:30am<br /><br />I remember that article.  It basically said that Smith Park's splash pad needs a better filtration system and they also need to post signs explaining not to drink (really???) the splash pad water and also not to play in it if you have the runs.  I also wondered if they already fixed those issues as Smith Park's splash pad was certainly in operation last week on Thursday when I took my son to select soccer tryouts.<br /><br />What I'd like to know is if City Council is so gung-ho on demolishing Sunset Pool (a huge mistake) because it won't make them money then what are the plans to demolish or sell the golf course which has been operated at a loss from day one.<br /><br />The difference, in my opinion, is that the pool would mostly be used by those families who cannot afford to build their own backyard pool, join a country club or pay for passes to The Beach or King's Island - the working class and below, of which there are many in this town.  Golf on the other hand, is traditionally an elitist game.  It's an expensive sport and being able to afford to get the equipment and pay the fees to play cements your status as a person of means.<br /><br />Mighty white of you council, mighty white of you.<br /><br />PS - Why is it that the City claims they cannot afford to operate the pool for even ONE season (about $20k), yet according to a recent journal article they've got $80k available to demolish it.  Does anyone else see the absurdity of that?<br /><br /><a href="http://youtu.be/rYqF_BtIwAU" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/rYqF_BtIwAU</a>]]>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions : Richard  I think the information...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 6:37am<br /><br />Richard<br /><br />I think the information was in reference to a story in the Journal concerning the different water delivery systems at Smith Park and at Douglass Park. If I remember correctly, Jackie Phillips of the Health Dept. gave an explanation related to the health factors on each splash pad. Has something to do with a closed loop versus an open loop system I think. Anyone remember the specifics on this? I can't remember a thing anymore.  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> Thanks in advance. ]]>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions : not certain, Rick Counting on...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 6:34am<br /><br />not certain, Rick<DIV>Counting on accuracy of what was reported</DIV><DIV>have not been down that way in a while</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions :   spiderjohn wrote: A splash...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=640">Richard Saunders</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;06&nbsp;2011 at 3:02am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by spiderjohn" alt="Originally posted by spiderjohn" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>spiderjohn wrote:</strong><br /><br /><DIV>A splash pad at Smith Park which is disfunctional(announced as the heat wave started):</DIV></td></tr></table> Are you certain? The only place that I have seen this "announced" has been here on Middleton USA.]]>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions :   Well said Spider. </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=131">Smartman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;05&nbsp;2011 at 8:18pm<br /><br />Well said Spider. ]]>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions : The un-necessarily purchased properties...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;05&nbsp;2011 at 3:02pm<br /><br />The un-necessarily purchased properties and the high prices paid, along with loans forgiven to entities well-capable of repayment:<DIV>The high cost of maintaining these dormant structures in anticipation of C St taking them over:</DIV><DIV>The high-cost giveaways to the PAC, which is way under capacity and honestly producing very little revenue and attraction:</DIV><DIV>The total # of city-owned properties in the former downtown area:</DIV><DIV>The increasingly expensive bike path disaster:</DIV><DIV>A splash pad at Smith Park which is disfunctional(announced as the heat wave started):</DIV><DIV>Over-emphasis and expense&nbsp;on city parks that go basically un-used:</DIV><DIV>The concept of INCREASING Section 8 vouchers by 15%(after a promised reduction of 50%)&nbsp;coupled with the plan to DECREASE public safety staffing by 20%-25%:</DIV><DIV>The dormant nature of the Towne Mall area:</DIV><DIV>The abandonment of all business areas in between the areas mentioned above:</DIV><DIV>The combined effort by city and school admin to eliminate any concept of neiborhoods in our community:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>As Ricky Ricardo might say to Council and admin--</DIV><DIV>"You gotta lot o' 'splainin' to do"</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>So--please stop the double talk and stonewalling.</DIV><DIV>Conduct the citizens' business openly and in a manner as easy to access as possible(TVM which is funded by our cable fees and private donors)</DIV><DIV>Bring meaningful job creation to all areas of the city</DIV><DIV>We can have all of the "bashes" and "walks" you choose, however something must come from it all. More businesses must be positively impacted by the feel-good events.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Tuesday&#039;s hidden discussions :    TonyB wrote:  Neil Barille...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=295">Hermes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3910<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;05&nbsp;2011 at 9:02am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by TonyB" alt="Originally posted by TonyB" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>TonyB wrote:</strong><br /><br />Neil Barille (if that is your real name, lol),<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Thanks for the post, I think what would be a viable option is for the citizens, not the city government to own the pool in the same way that the city of Green Bay own the Packers. Why couldn't a sale of the pool be organized around a "citizen ownership"? If 10,000 people payed $30&nbsp;for a share of the pool, $300,000 should be able to buy and operate the pool. I'm not an attorney so I don't know all the legal stipulations that would be involved but it seems a better option than destroying the last public pool in the city!!!</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div><strong><font size="2">You want the tax payer to pay more than once for a swimming pool ?!!! City hall is not an entity to itself,it does not <u>own</u> anything,the people own it as it was&nbsp;maintained,built and paid for by the tax payer. Personally I think closing the pools was the best idea,today we are seeing many illness's and disease coming from public pools. I for one would never even think of getting into a "public cesspool" which is what a public swimming pool is. Many people today own their own backyard pools and with water parks I personally see no need for a city owned pool. </font></strong></div>]]>
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