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   <title>Middletown&#039;s graduation rates.... :   Middletown my not be the best...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1014">jseymoure</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jan&nbsp;20&nbsp;2012 at 9:31am<br /><br />Middletown my not be the best in Butler county but their gad rate is not bad at all. Hamilton county doesn't even come close to that number. Instead of acknowledging their mishaps why not help them help themselves to improve where it is most need. It's very easy to ridicule another persons situation, it's much harder to help them fix their situation. Spread some love and light where they shine, talk about what they are doing right and than you can help them strengthen where they are weak. You can't complain if your not going to help, all your doing is making noise about someone else's business.<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Shocked" />]]>
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   <title>Middletown&#039;s graduation rates.... : It is an executive session for...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=695">middletownscouter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;14&nbsp;2011 at 11:31am<br /><br />It is an executive session for hiring the Treasurer.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.boarddocs.com/oh/mdcsd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=8HLPUP640F8C" target="_blank">http://www.boarddocs.com/oh/mdcsd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=8HLPUP640F8C</a><br /><br />Agenda Item Details<br />Meeting Jun 14, 2011 - Special Board Meeting 7:00 PM<br />Category EXECUTIVE SESSION<br />Subject Executive Session<br />Type Discussion <br /><br />The purpose of this meeting is to convene into Executive Session to consider the employment of personnel, specifically, to interview candidates for the Treasurer position, with no action to follow.<br /> <br />Roll Call: Tyus_____Fiora_____McNeil_____Sauter____Andrew_____<br />]]>
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   <title>Middletown&#039;s graduation rates.... :   chmoore wrote:I believe that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;14&nbsp;2011 at 5:44am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by chmoore" alt="Originally posted by chmoore" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>chmoore wrote:</strong><br /><br />I believe that the special board meeting concerns interviews for a treasurer.</td></tr></table> <FONT size=2>Gee...one would think that the local newspaper could have mentioned that!!!&nbsp; That means it will be an executive session, so attending would likely be a waste of time.</FONT>]]>
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   <title>Middletown&#039;s graduation rates.... :  Silver Bells, First of all,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;14&nbsp;2011 at 5:41am<br /><br /><SPAN lang=EN><P><FONT size=2>Silver Bells,</FONT></P><P><FONT size=2>First of all, thank you for your kind words. That was a<EM> <strong>ringing</strong></EM> endorsement!!! <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" /></FONT></P><P><FONT size=2>Second, it is good that you have decided to speak up, whether you happen to agree with the long-time posters or not. I think that you will find that honest, thoughtful opinions are welcomed here. Differing views may receive debate--and sometimes heated debate--but the discourse is usually kept civil, and if anyone (especially newer a participant) is undeservedly attacked, you will find that even those of opposing opinions will come to their aid.</FONT></P><P><FONT size=2>But beware!!! We may whip you into such a frenzy that the next time we raid City Hall you may feel compelled to grab a pitchfork and join us!!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></FONT></P></SPAN>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=836">chmoore</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2011 at 10:41pm<br /><br />I believe that the special board meeting concerns interviews for a treasurer.]]>
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   <title>Middletown&#039;s graduation rates.... : Vet and Mike, I have been following...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=835">silver bells</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2011 at 10:36pm<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Vet and Mike, I have been following your blogging since 2008 with great interest Thank you both for your almost always “right on the money” observations. Thank you for your courage in challenging and seeking the reasons for the city’s and school district’s persistently underachieving systems.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Middletown leaders seem to have a death wish for the city. I can’t understand their actions or thinking in any other way. And lo and behold, it is working. A city council that pursued 56% of Butler County’s section 8 vouchers on the grounds that they were trying to decrease vacancy rates in older homes is, well, to put it kindly, not rational. Do the landlords make millions? Yes. Does the city make money? No. Does the city lose a lot of money? Yes. Does this housing place additional burdens on city services, citizens, property values, and quality of education? Yes. Does it make the city more desirable for ANYONE to want to live or invest here? No. That’s what I mean by “not rational” and “death wish.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Now to the schools. Dragged down still further by too many unsupportive families coming into the community, the schools have embedded an underachieving culture. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Let me say this loud and clear: Are the students in Middletown any less intelligent than kids in Lakota or Mason or other high achieving schools? NO. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Are the teachers any better or worse, by and large, than those in any other districts? NO. In fact, most of our teachers will ONLY dumb down when they are pressured or intimidated to do so—which they have been, for years. Steve Price was the proverbial straw. His delusional policies absolutely rocked this district. The teachers knew it early on and were appalled. You both knew it and called it, and others did too. And where was the school board during this debacle? That’s right, supporting his ideas and renewing his contract. That’s what I mean by “death wish.” But that is a whole other blog<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Do the schools consistently underperform because they don’t have enough money? No. The schools never have enough money, by their account, and this is true pretty much across the country. So it doesn’t matter how many levies are passed, MCSD will always come back for more. Nature of the beast. And you can only change that beast by starving it. See what’s happening across Ohio and the country.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Then what is the difference? How does a school system like Little Miami, now insolvent and facing possible dissolution, still rank “excellent” despite no new money? How does Lakota continue to rank “excellent with distinction” year after year despite its threats that the district’s ranking would tumble without, that’s right, more money? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It’s the families. You both have said it many times. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">However, all is not lost. What does the MCSD need? </P><DIV>Have the new layers of administrators added in the 2000s made any difference? No. So it’s not more administrators. </DIV><DIV><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><DIV>It’s creating a culture of high expectations for academics, behavior, and dress within every school building. We all rise to the expectations made of us. It’s so true that it’s become a cliché, but an accurate one. It’s insisting that students take <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">personal responsibility</B> for their learning and OWN it, not sit passively and be told, “We will not let you fail.” WE will not let you fail? Excuse me? The student cited in the <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Journal</I> article had the honesty to admit that she was responsible for her failure. And she was. </DIV><DIV><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Believe me, teachers and support staff work very hard to catch kids who are slipping, but so many students are in the passive mode that it’s a tsunami of underperformance. You think the graduation rate is low? Would you like to guess what it would be if the students’ grades actually reflected their performance? Compare their school grades to their scores on the national standardized tests such as the SAT if you want more clarity.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">A culture of excellence can happen in the MCSD. It will be difficult and require great commitment from the school board and superintendent. It requires putting supports in place over the transition period when many students’ grades will tumble until they accept that this is the way it’s going to be. And most teachers will have to buy in or the slackers will beat it down. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">But it CAN happen. And for&nbsp;God's sakes, isn't it preferable to the sorry situation we&nbsp;are in&nbsp;today? And that effort&nbsp;really WOULD be for the kids!</P><DIV>And Middie Pride would have real meaning. Do most of our students feel pride today? No. Are they proud to say they attend a school in the district? No. And they will tell you all the reasons why, and they are right on every one. </DIV><DIV><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Many of our parents may not support education or even like it, but every parent WANTS GOOD SCHOOLS. Create those schools and they will come—especially the kind we WANT to come. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2011 at 8:12pm<br /><br />Article doesn't say whether it is open to the public or not. If so, kind of an important thing for the community to know for those who want to attend. Wonder what is so "special" about this session? Do the same rules apply for the school board that apply to council.....ie......if it involves personnel matters, they retire out of view of the public to spend the public's money making decisions on public servants who provide a public service?  <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=131">Smartman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2011 at 6:48pm<br /><br /><div><h1>Middletown board of education to meet Tuesday night</h1></div><div id="cxLeftRail" sizcache="18" sizset="9"><div sizcache="18" sizset="9"><h3><span></span>&nbsp;</h3></div><ul sizcache="18" sizset="11"><div><div id="cxArticles" sizcache="18" sizset="13"><ul><li>&nbsp;</li></ul></div><span>Staff Report </span><span>12:59 PM Monday, June 13, 2011 </span></div></ul></div><div id="cxArticleText" sizcache="18" sizset="13"><div style="font-size: 15px;" id="cxArticleText" sizcache="18" sizset="13"><p style="font-size: 15px;">MIDDLETOWN - A special meeting has been scheduled by the Middletown City School District Board of Education.</p><p style="font-size: 15px;">The meeting is scheduled for 7 p.m. in the conference room of the administration building, 1515 Girard Ave. The meeting previously was scheduled for 4 p.m.</p><div>&nbsp;</div><div>This must be to discuss giving the Super, Betsy Carter and Lisa Lowery a raise to cove the increase in health care costs!!!</div></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2011 at 4:24pm<br /><br /><FONT size=2>By the way, on occassion I have made it all the way to Emerald City using stealth tactics, and <SPAN lang=EN>I can unequivocally state that no one there has any brains, heart, or courage to spare!!!</SPAN>&nbsp; <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></FONT>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3928<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Jun&nbsp;13&nbsp;2011 at 4:14pm<br /><br /><SPAN lang=EN><P><FONT size=2>And thanks to both of you for broadening my English composition horizons!!!</FONT></P><P><FONT size=2>I’m sure that the readers found it refreshing to read a Presta post alluding to “The Wiz” instead of my usual analogies to “The Music Man”. <img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></FONT></P></SPAN>]]>
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