http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : Other School Issues : Roosevelt School Lot Activity Tue, 06 Oct 2026 02:18:40 +0000 Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3939 http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28132&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28132 Author: VietVet
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 12:00pm

chmoore wrote: Mr. Vet: I once saw the postings about making good use of district buildings. Roosevelt was vacant. This was known to be the case when the voters approved the building program. It sat empty for a couple of years---costing the taxpayers money! The grass needed to be mowed.. the cupola was starting to rot! It's costing us money! It's an eyesore! What to do--what to do??? Nobody wanted the building. So, it was demolished, and now the vacant lot needs to be mowed. I don't recall hearing any thing about the old hospital site---must be because we can't see the hillside from Central Avenue. Why don't we sell the Roosevelt lot?? Maybe because nobody wants it. It's costing me money!!!! Oh, no, what will we do? It's becoming a dumping ground for old mattresses. What will I do?

What will we/you do?

We'll ask our friends at city hall to help us.

The city is friends with the feds and HUD, right? Probably a direct line to the HUD bigwigs.

I say contact them, offer them the land, build more Section 8 housing on these empty lots, including the old Roosevelt school/old hospital site (across the street from the prestigious Highlands historical area) and really "ghetto-up" the city. I'm sure those high rollers in the Highlands area and in the former Roosevelt school neighborhood would go along with that. I know Gilleland and crew would welcome the additional HUD fed money revenue to re-direct in running the city. Let's really go all out on those voucher numbers! ]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:00:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28132&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28132 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28130&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28130 Author: chmoore
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 11:42am

Mr. Vet: I once saw the postings about making good use of district buildings. Roosevelt was vacant. This was known to be the case when the voters approved the building program. It sat empty for a couple of years---costing the taxpayers money! The grass needed to be mowed.. the cupola was starting to rot! It's costing us money! It's an eyesore! What to do--what to do??? Nobody wanted the building. So, it was demolished, and now the vacant lot needs to be mowed. I don't recall hearing any thing about the old hospital site---must be because we can't see the hillside from Central Avenue. Why don't we sell the Roosevelt lot?? Maybe because nobody wants it. It's costing me money!!!! Oh, no, what will we do? It's becoming a dumping ground for old mattresses. What will I do?]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:42:43 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28130&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28130 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28127&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28127 Author: VietVet
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 11:22am

chmoore states "There have been a lot of good things happening here".

AND WHAT WOULD THOSE GOOD THINGS BE MOORE? WE HAVE ANOTHER EMPTY LOT SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF A ONCE-PROMINENT RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE HAVE A NEW ACTIVITY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE THE SCHOOL WAS LEVELED......ILLEGAL DUMPING. WE HAVE THE COST TO THE SCHOOL BOARD WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE FENCE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE. WE HAVE A LARGE BARREN LOT WITH NO APPARENT FUTURE, NEEDING MOWING MAINTENANCE IN SEASON. THIS IS ANOTHER IN A LONG LINE OF ONCE OCCUPIED PROPERTIES THAT HAVE GONE THE WAY OF THE WRECKING BALL RESULTING IN ANOTHER VACANT LOT WITH NO DEVELOPMENTAL VALUE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. ANOTHER "GREENSPACE" IN A LONG LINE OF "GREENSPACES" CREATED BY THE CITY FOR WHAT PURPOSE? "PROPOSED BUILDING SITES? GIVE ME A BREAK. WHAT BULL----. JUST LIKE MOST OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA....JUST LIKE EVERYTHING THE CITY TOUCHES. GO AHEAD AND DEFEND THE CITY. YOU CAN JOIN THEIR RANKS OF DEFENDERS. YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY IN NUMBER IN THAT REGARD. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO SANCTION INEPTNESS IN YOUR CITY GOVERNMENT BY YOUR DEFENSE OF THEM? NOT LOGICAL. ]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:22:31 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28127&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28127 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28126&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28126 Author: chmoore
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 11:04am

I understand what you're saying about the condition of some areas of the city. My point is that the first thing that the quarter-back club elects to do is not be grateful that the district (or city) is trying to maintain the property and say "thanks for doing a nice job," but, instead, have ten different ways of complaining, e.g., why wasn't it vinyl coated, thanks for removing an unwanted building and trying to keep the lot presentable. I'm just trying to eliminate so many negative comments. There have been a lot of good things happening here. Thanks for the comments, Scouter. CHMoore]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:04:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28126&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28126 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28125&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28125 Author: middletownscouter
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 10:35am

chmoore, if you'd spend a few minutes looking around at the state of our once-fair city, it would appear that your idea of letting the decision makers do it on their own has been an epic failure.

As a resident who lives on the same block as the school property, I don't mind that fence. It doesn't look bad and it isn't too noticeable from my standpoint as I drive by several times a day. I was merely wondering why put it in the middle of the property instead of near the front where the whole property is enclosed.]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:35:24 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28125&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28125 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28124&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28124 Author: chmoore
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 10:26am

Micro-manage, everyone. Do nothing, and you get criticized for all of the dumping. Send patrol cars around continually, and the city gets criticized for misuse of manpower. I believe that fencing is a pretty standard solution. No "hidden plans" like a dog-park. Place the fence along the street? He doesn't like that idea. Place it farther down the hill---she doesn't like that. Use vinyl-coated fencing---get criticized for raising the cost. How about letting people do their jobs, and make some decisions. Or should the decision-makers consult you Monday-morning quarterbackers on every decision? ]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:26:25 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28124&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28124 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28070&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28070 Author: middletownscouter
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 24 2011 at 12:15pm

I just question the position of it along the property frontage. Could have been done closer to the sidewalk or on the other side of the hill in front. The materials isn't really an issue because the rest of the property has a similar fencing around it already so it matches (in material type).]]> Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:15:00 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28070&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28070 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28044&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28044 Author: TudorBrown
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 23 2011 at 7:24pm

Chris Fiora wrote: The fence was requested by the neighbors.  There was some unsavory activity going on and the neighbors requested the fence in hope of reducing this issue.  The school district is trying very hard to be a good neighbor and to be responsive to requests.

No one thought the galvanized fencing would be trashy?  No one uses that sh*t anymore. 

Black, or Green coated chain-link would have been much nicer!


]]> Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:24:45 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28044&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28044 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28016&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28016 Author: SupportMiddletown
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 22 2011 at 6:36pm

That fence is very unattractive. Pretty tacky in an otherwise pleasant neighborhood.]]> Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:36:05 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=28016&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#28016 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&PID=27975&title=roosevelt-school-lot-activity#27975 Author: VietVet
Subject: 3939
Posted: Jun 21 2011 at 4:20pm

It is ironic that when the school building was there, there was none of this "unsavory activity" going on (at least that was known to the public).
Now, after only a few months of the building being removed, we have a situation that requires the blocking off of the area with a fence. Eliminate one problem....the building and create another unforeseen one ......unsavory activity.
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