Middletown Forum : Middletown Cemetery http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : About Middletown : Middletown Cemetery Tue, 06 Oct 2026 02:36:14 +0000 Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:07:25 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4069 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Middletown Cemetery : I sit on the Board for the Middletown... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29383&title=middletown-cemetery#29383 Author: Vivian Moon
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Posted: Aug 27 2011 at 8:07am

I sit on the Board for the Middletown Cemetery.  There was an account set up and designated only for the Cemetery. The Board was assured that the money is not going to be used for anything other than the Vault or what the donor specifies.

Ms Morrison
The funds from the grants that were filed in April were put put into MY ACCOUNT.
I requested that these funds be seperated. I was also assured that only I could remove funds from my account...well we know how that went. I did not agree to give my cemetery fund money to the new cemetery board.
I would strongly advise that the new  cemetery board get a written agreement from the City clearly stating  how and by whom these funds can be used.
]]> Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:07:25 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29383&title=middletown-cemetery#29383 Middletown Cemetery : Anyone who has followed this story... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29373&title=middletown-cemetery#29373 Author: ground swat
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 26 2011 at 6:53pm

Anyone who has followed this story knows the Board cares.  Sh-t all of us care but the point is how hard is it to read a State Ord. and follow it.  It takes hands-on every wk. attention......  Following this" Pass the puck" city manager is hard to stomach. 

]]> Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:53:09 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29373&title=middletown-cemetery#29373 Middletown Cemetery : Vivian Please do not get me wrong... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29366&title=middletown-cemetery#29366 Author: da120757
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 26 2011 at 3:18pm

Vivian Please do not get me wrong about what I said about bringing up the past I say that because as we the board are reaching out to the community for funds to help restore the Vault, There are still all those people and they know who they are, that are undermining what we are working toward by complaining about everything the Board and the City is doing to solve issues, and this is why we are getting on the MUSA blog that people are afraid to donate money to the Board to fix the Vault.  I cannot tell you how many people I have heard from that say Just tear the Vault down.  Why would we do this when it is the Focal Point of the cemetery and should remain there.   
  
  I know the cemetery has been neglected by the City for the last 60 years as does everyone else that lives in this city with the exception of a few that just do not give a damn.  I however do give a damn and that is why I am on this new cemetery board.  .
 
We the board are trying to get things accomplished, and granted it is not moving along as fast as I would like it to but it will take time.  The only reason for my saying that is that  things did or did not happen in the 60 years that the cemetery has owned this cemetery so we all need to quit blaming and move toward the goal that we all want and that is to fix the vault, fix the tombstones, and get the cemetery back to the way we all envision that it should be.
 
I do know that the Cemetery is not ready to file for Historic Status ( Middletown Journal blew that way out of proportion imagine that).   Reasearch is still being done and records gone over for this cemetery. I am hopeful that in time we will see a Historic Cemetery we as a community can be proud of.
 
And another thing just so you know and those on here know.   I got involved with this Cemetery problem way back in 1994, took my sons boy scout troop, volunteers from Target and others went down and  cleaned for two seperate days with the promise from then Public Works Supervisor that they would take better care of the Cemetery. After that  the City  only did bare minimum maintenance.  The City did cut down trees and re graveled the driveways.  I appreciate all the hard work that you did in the cemetery and I know you know that because I have told you. 
 
So as you can see... These problems may or may not be solved, but we are working hard to see if we can get it done together.
]]> Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:18:36 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29366&title=middletown-cemetery#29366 Middletown Cemetery : I have received numerous phone... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29357&title=middletown-cemetery#29357 Author: Vivian Moon
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 26 2011 at 7:11am

I have received numerous phone calls about this article because it is somewhat misleading.

I believe it will be five to ten years before the Middletown Cemetery will be ready to file the application for the National Historic Register. The vault, fences and driveways need to be repaired, tombstones found and restored, and hours of hard labor and hours of research need to be completed first.

Deb Morrison wrote: People just need to stop bringing up what happened in the past with Vivian and that whole problem with her and the city. 

Ms Morrison, this isn’t about a problem between Vivian and the City. This is about the City of Middletown and the gross neglect of the Middletown Cemetery over the past 60 years. This is about the City of Middletown not wanting to take any responsibility for the condition of the cemetery. This is about the fact that the Middletown Cemetery is not in compliance with ORC 4767.06.
So as you can see…this problem has not been solved and therefore it is not in the past.

]]> Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:11:50 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29357&title=middletown-cemetery#29357 Middletown Cemetery : Every one take a deep breath... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29249&title=middletown-cemetery#29249 Author: Bocephus
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 22 2011 at 1:26pm

Every one take a deep breath we are all wanting the same outcome from all of this mess its not doing any good if we as law abiding citizens can not even discuss this issue with out finger pointing.]]> Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:26:13 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29249&title=middletown-cemetery#29249 Middletown Cemetery : da120757 wrote:I don't... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29240&title=middletown-cemetery#29240 Author: LMAO
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 22 2011 at 9:59am

Originally posted by da120757 da120757 wrote:

I don't think you know me at all, cause if you did, you would know that if I thought about this issue  the same way everyone on this blog is thinking about the board and your so called SPINELESS ONES???  I would not be on the board at all.  I was asked by someone we all know to put my application in for a board member because I have been involved with this issue since 1994, long before Vivian came into the picture.  And do not get me wrong, I appreciate everything that Vivian has done for this cemetery and in this cemetery, and I felt heartsick when all the plantings disappeared but like I said that is in the past and we cannot do anything to get them back now.  As for the Money that Vivian says is hers. I do not know about the money going missing , only the money that was taken out of the accout to purchase mulch for the Cemetery, and the money that was left from the initial funds is still there.  Vivian did not want it so the Board voted to use that money for the Vault as well.  All of this is old news everyone knows this.  And let me tell you something else if I had started sounding like the one working on the 2nd floor I would be saying tear it down but I am fighting to keep this vault in place.  So Like I said before and I will keep saying  LETS MOVE ON, and get this Cemetery back to the way it use to be.   Oh by the way did you not say you were going to donate a Tarp to cover the vault????   I received two private messeges from you for two weeks and well have not seen that tarp yet??? 
Oh so you want to play it this way do yea? I have the damn tarp and I was told that they wasnt ready to put it up at this time. When they decide to put it up I will drop it off to the person Im suppose to but again I be damn if Im going to drop it for them  to use it somewhere else.So maybe you ought to get your facts right before you insert your foot in you mouth.Would you like me to send you the Private message I got?
]]> Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:59:04 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29240&title=middletown-cemetery#29240 Middletown Cemetery : I don't think you know me... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29238&title=middletown-cemetery#29238 Author: da120757
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 22 2011 at 8:47am

I don't think you know me at all, cause if you did, you would know that if I thought about this issue  the same way everyone on this blog is thinking about the board and your so called SPINELESS ONES???  I would not be on the board at all.  I was asked by someone we all know to put my application in for a board member because I have been involved with this issue since 1994, long before Vivian came into the picture.  And do not get me wrong, I appreciate everything that Vivian has done for this cemetery and in this cemetery, and I felt heartsick when all the plantings disappeared but like I said that is in the past and we cannot do anything to get them back now.  As for the Money that Vivian says is hers. I do not know about the money going missing , only the money that was taken out of the accout to purchase mulch for the Cemetery, and the money that was left from the initial funds is still there.  Vivian did not want it so the Board voted to use that money for the Vault as well.  All of this is old news everyone knows this.  And let me tell you something else if I had started sounding like the one working on the 2nd floor I would be saying tear it down but I am fighting to keep this vault in place.  So Like I said before and I will keep saying  LETS MOVE ON, and get this Cemetery back to the way it use to be.   Oh by the way did you not say you were going to donate a Tarp to cover the vault????   I received two private messeges from you for two weeks and well have not seen that tarp yet??? 
]]> Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:47:20 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29238&title=middletown-cemetery#29238 Middletown Cemetery : da120757 wrote:well I will... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29237&title=middletown-cemetery#29237 Author: LMAO
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 22 2011 at 7:53am

Originally posted by da120757 da120757 wrote:

well I will not argue with you all here.  Some people just need to leave the past in the past.  We started anew in February and are moving on from there People just need to stop bringing up what happened in the past with Vivian and that whole problem with her and the city.  New People New Time.  Like I said Lets just move on if it dies not work out for the Board and the Vault then we have all learned a lesson.
 
Sorry to say it but You are starting to sound like one that is working on the 2nd floor of the city building.How can someone not bring up the pass when Money has gone missing that could be used in what you on the board are asking for donations for? The problem is the SPINELESS Ones taking money out of one fund and using it for something else.
]]> Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:53:51 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29237&title=middletown-cemetery#29237 Middletown Cemetery : da120757 wrote:well I will... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29234&title=middletown-cemetery#29234 Author: VietVet
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 22 2011 at 6:49am

Originally posted by da120757 da120757 wrote:

well I will not argue with you all here.  Some people just need to leave the past in the past.  We started anew in February and are moving on from there People just need to stop bringing up what happened in the past with Vivian and that whole problem with her and the city.  New People New Time.  Like I said Lets just move on if it dies not work out for the Board and the Vault then we have all learned a lesson.


I would like to add to your comment ......

"People just need to stop bringing up what happened in the past with Vivian and that whole problem with her and the city. New People New Time".

I would like to change that to read .....

People just need to stop bringing up what happened in the past with Vivian and that whole problem with her and the city. New People New Time AS IT PERTAINS TO THE CEMETERY BOARD BUT WE STILL HAVE THE PERPETRATORS OF THE BAD SITUATION WITH THE LIKES OF GILLELAND AND LANDEN, WHO WERE, AND STILL ARE, THE PRIMARY ROADBLOCKS TOWARD SEEING THE CEMETERY SITUATION CORRECTED. NEW PEOPLE NEW TIME IS NOT QUITE ACCURATE. WE STILL HAVE THE CITY'S RESISTANCE. JMO]]> Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:49:08 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29234&title=middletown-cemetery#29234 Middletown Cemetery : da120757 wrote:well I will... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4069&PID=29232&title=middletown-cemetery#29232 Author: Richard Saunders
Subject: 4069
Posted: Aug 21 2011 at 9:48pm

Originally posted by da120757 da120757 wrote:

well I will not argue with you all here.  Some people just need to leave the past in the past.  We started anew in February and are moving on from there People just need to stop bringing up what happened in the past with Vivian and that whole problem with her and the city.  New People New Time.  Like I said Lets just move on if it dies not work out for the Board and the Vault then we have all learned a lesson.

"Thosewho cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." … GeorgeSantayana, Reason in Common Sense

"Thosewho don't know history are destined to repeat it." … Edmund Burke

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