Middletown Forum : Firefighter Layoffs http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Firefighter Layoffs Tue, 06 Oct 2026 17:44:57 +0000 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:09:30 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4123 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Firefighter Layoffs : middie83 states.... "Not... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30548&title=firefighter-layoffs#30548 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Nov 03 2011 at 6:09am

middie83 states....

"Not only is it the only ladder truck that this city has but is also a paramedic equipped unit that is able to quickly respond to that area in medical emergencies".


"People this is just the start! They are willing to play a game of chance with residents, citizens and public safety employees safety"

. "But do you really want to go to bed at night with the thought on your mind that if a time does come that you have to dial 911 for a medical or fire emergency your care and protection may be coming from Monroe, Franklin, maybe even Liberty twp. because the administration has left fire and ems protection within the city of Middletown at bare bones and they are all out on other details!"

TO ALL THREE COMMENTS MADE BY MIDDIE83, I RESPOND BY SAYING.....THEN THE CITY MANAGER AND OTHER CITY LEADERS THAT ARE A PART OF THIS DECISION OF PLACING THE RESPONDERS IN A POSITION THAT WOULD CREATE AN EXCESSIVE RESPONSE TIME TO A 911 CALL BETTER BUCKLE UP AND BE PREPARED TO MAN THE DEFENDANTS SEAT AT THE TRIAL. IF MY WIFE DIES DUE TO AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF RESPONSE TIME, AND THE SITUATION CAN BE PROVEN THAT THE SLOW RESPONSE TIME COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED OR WAS INTENTIONALLY CAUSED, I'LL BE SEEING GILLELAND AND THE OTHERS IN COURT.
]]> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:09:30 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30548&title=firefighter-layoffs#30548 Firefighter Layoffs : Have sent an Email today to my... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30547&title=firefighter-layoffs#30547 Author: taxed2death
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Posted: Nov 02 2011 at 11:46pm

Have sent an Email today to my council member hope to hear back from him!]]> Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:46:58 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30547&title=firefighter-layoffs#30547 Firefighter Layoffs : For anyone on here that lives... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30545&title=firefighter-layoffs#30545 Author: middie83
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Posted: Nov 02 2011 at 11:28pm

For anyone on here that lives in the area covered by St. 84 (Tytus rd.) or for that matter anyone that live in the City of Middletown. I would strongly encourage that you contact members of city council and the city manager and express to them that it is unacceptable to close or brown out that station. Not only is it the only ladder truck that this city has but is also a paramedic equipped unit that is able to quickly respond to that area in medical emergencies.
Little did Smiley Chief Botts let everyone know at the council meeting last night but he has met with the city manager and finance department and they plan on starting brown outs of St. 84 as soon as next week.
People this is just the start! They are willing to play a game of chance with residents, citizens and public safety employees safety! Local 336 (fire dept. union) has offered up numerous concessions which the city will surely take but refuse to in-turn give any guarantee on the retention of jobs.
Many probably on here have never had to use the services of the MFD. I am very thankful for that and hope you never have to. But do you really want to go to bed at night with the thought on your mind that if a time does come that you have to dial 911 for a medical or fire emergency your care and protection may be coming from Monroe, Franklin, maybe even Liberty twp. because the administration has left fire and ems protection within the city of Middletown at bare bones and they are all out on other details!
I am asking for your support. Please contact city council and the city manager.

Larry Mulligan larrym@cityofmiddletown.org (513) 258-7284
Judy Gilleland judyg@cityofmiddletown.org (513) 425-7766
City Council dept_citycouncil@cityofmiddletown.org (513) 425-7719]]> Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:28:08 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30545&title=firefighter-layoffs#30545 Firefighter Layoffs : People will always be getting... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30455&title=firefighter-layoffs#30455 Author: ground swat
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Posted: Oct 27 2011 at 4:11pm

People will always be getting hurt or passing on to a better life know matter how many police and fire you have, we all know that. Certainly that number is less with more employees.  I know I will be going over our family fire drill at our house a little more often and checking those alarms and cleaning our chimney.  M83 are you saying Middletown leadership has No pro-growth plan?  We all know the last 20 yrs. of wild stock prices and everyone being able to get a house. Well thats over with and the state has decided to do something about that $8B. we are in debt for.  How it happened who's to blame doesn't mean Sh t.  It's here and do we have any real thinkers out there that can work out of this problem. Moron's?  I thought only one poster like to call people names.  The Chamber, that is a good question and one i've been asking other business people about for years.  Not alot support, thats from the GS polling group of Middletown. ]]> Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:11:44 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30455&title=firefighter-layoffs#30455 Firefighter Layoffs : Jackie Philips... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30454&title=firefighter-layoffs#30454 Author: acclaro
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Posted: Oct 27 2011 at 2:46pm

Jackie Philips hopes the Health care levy passes by 80%. The city cut back on its financial contribution which saw it as overhead it could not afford, is it not also needless overhead for the majority of residents? REDUNDANCY of the same services within the same county is fiduciary insanity. That's what leverage and regionialization provide.

Integrate Middletown's health department into Buter Cty Health. Too logical not to, other than a title.


]]> Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:46:56 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30454&title=firefighter-layoffs#30454 Firefighter Layoffs : middie83.... "Middletown... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30453&title=firefighter-layoffs#30453 Author: VietVet
Subject: 4123
Posted: Oct 27 2011 at 2:30pm

middie83....

"Middletown needs to have a pro-growth agenda of bringing in new business. New business to Middletown means more dollars flowing through our city economy. More dollars in our city equals more revenue. This will pull us out of our budget situation"

True. Been saying that for a long time. So have others. Look no further. Do you see that picture above, on this thread posted by acclaro with council, Gilleland, and those I don't recognize? They and the councils, city managers and city leaders of the past are to blame. (Yes Stanky, I'm blaming your buddies again at city hall for the failure to bring decent jobs into town the last 30+ years) Who else would control the direction of the town? Who else to blame? It sure isn't the citizens as we have been excluded in determining the future of our town for many years. Miserable failures, most of them, past and present, at growing this city. And some have the audacity to have smiles on their faces in the picture.....especially the city manager and Mulligan, who apparently have no conscience. ]]> Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:30:13 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30453&title=firefighter-layoffs#30453 Firefighter Layoffs : Tell us how you would handle the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30452&title=firefighter-layoffs#30452 Author: middie83
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Posted: Oct 27 2011 at 1:54pm

Tell us how you would handle the city's budget concerns?

Middletown, like most other local governments, is facing a budget deficit. I want to focus on ideas of increasing revenue to the city as opposed to cutting. Middletown needs to have a pro-growth agenda of bringing in new business. New business to Middletown means more dollars flowing through our city economy. More dollars in our city equals more revenue. This will pull us out of our budget situation. In the meantime, the city has no choice but to operate as lean as possible. Middletown City government must provide basic services such as police and fire protection. Other area's may unfortunately have to go more lean.

This was from a Q&A the protical son Josh Liarbach did Aug of last year. Let's see if he holds true to his word and provides police and fire protection or votes to cuts them!]]> Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:54:06 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30452&title=firefighter-layoffs#30452 Firefighter Layoffs : Accalaro: How do you propose the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30451&title=firefighter-layoffs#30451 Author: middie83
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Posted: Oct 27 2011 at 1:43pm

Accalaro: How do you propose the city use volunteer firefighters? Do you realize the loss in service you will get in doing so? You will go from a FF level 2 to FF volunteer level, Paramedic to EMT-Basic, loose haz-mat techs, trench rescue techs, fire inspectors, fire investigators, search and rescue techs, ect. ect. ect. Then when you loose that you will have to pay outside agencies to do those jobs that you have now. Your response times will at least double, so when your having a heart attack, a parent isn't breathing, a child is choking, a house is on fire, a family is trapped in a car instead of waiting just 2-4min you will now wait 8-12+ min for help to arrive. Doesn't sound like much more of a wait but when it comes to medical life and death every minute counts.
Ask Madison twp., Fairfield twp., Turtle Creek and other surrounding departments why they have pushed to get away from from volunteer staffing.
VietVet: I fully understand your anger at the city on the safety levy. I wish next council meeting people lined up to tell the city that it is unacceptable to go back on their word that they gave to the residents.
I won't really get into SB5/Issue2 because that's a whole other topic that could go on for quite awhile. But trust me Middletown Firefighters pay their portion of their pension and healthcare and aren't seeing 43% more on the paycheck. At least I'm not, if I was I wouldn't work another job and work 72+ hours a week! ]]> Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:43:18 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30451&title=firefighter-layoffs#30451 Firefighter Layoffs : Is it bad breath, or a general... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30442&title=firefighter-layoffs#30442 Author: acclaro
Subject: 4123
Posted: Oct 26 2011 at 11:55am

Is it bad breath, or a general dislike Mr. Mulligan has for AJS? Mints (Tums for me) please.
 
 
 
]]> Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:55:31 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30442&title=firefighter-layoffs#30442 Firefighter Layoffs : Picard- retains 4th Ward Mayor-... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30441&title=firefighter-layoffs#30441 Author: VietVet
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Posted: Oct 26 2011 at 11:45am

Picard- retains 4th Ward
Mayor- Mayor Mulligan two term, +23 pt
Jones- at large (not all entirely foolish) +10 pt
Mulligan at large (the marketing one, not the number guy), at large), close with Jones, but she votes like an MMF anyway, and I like Joe. +10 pt
Mort- +7 pts


God,help us all.

The town continues it's decline into ghettoland. Select people continue to get what they want out of the town, stripping the carcass like a corporate raider. Can't get enough people that care enough to go to the polls to vote the destructors out by outvoting the MMF clan. Ironic, the very people who are getting the shaft by the MMF puppets are the very people who are helping retain the MMF scum that is doing the shafting by not voting against them and forcing them out. All because the people don't care enough to change it. Sad. ]]> Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:45:14 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4123&PID=30441&title=firefighter-layoffs#30441