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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS : VietVet You hit the nail on the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=796">Middletown29</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;28&nbsp;2011 at 6:00am<br /><br />VietVet<br />You hit the nail on the head.<br />Vivian is the confused and naive one.]]>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS : Please explain Middletown 29 and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;27&nbsp;2011 at 6:44am<br /><br />Please explain Middletown 29 and Vivian....<br /><br />Was the 2 mil+ spent on the land purchase out by I-75 as Midd. 29 expresses or was it spent on downtown? Seems to be some confusion here between you folks. <br /><br />If designated for the downtown and spent out by the interstate, isn't this mis-appropriation of funds? A legality issue perhaps or not? ]]>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS : Vivian Why do you avoid the truth? The...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=796">Middletown29</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;27&nbsp;2011 at 6:18am<br /><br />Vivian<br />Why do you avoid the truth?<br />The $2,730,927.59 was spent on the land purchase for Developer Al Neyer]]>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS :  Middletown29Those are the numbers...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;26&nbsp;2011 at 11:22am<br /><br /><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><DIV>Middletown29<BR>Those are the numbers that I posted....<BR>Downtown Fund Jan 2011-May 2011<BR></DIV><DIV><FONT size=6><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA"><strong>$2,730,927.59</strong></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA"></SPAN><BR>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV></SPAN>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS : Call Mr Wooten and ask him about...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=796">Middletown29</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;26&nbsp;2011 at 5:44am<br /><br />Call Mr Wooten and ask him about this year]]>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS : Middletown29My only concern at...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=115">Vivian Moon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;25&nbsp;2011 at 4:21pm<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Middletown29<BR>My only concern at the moment is what has been spent on the Downtown Area last year and this year.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>]]>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS : No answer Vivian? </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=796">Middletown29</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;25&nbsp;2011 at 10:23am<br /><br />No answer Vivian?]]>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS : Vivian....did you call your source...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=796">Middletown29</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;23&nbsp;2011 at 1:25pm<br /><br />Vivian....did you call your source Mr. Wooten?]]>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS : TonyB, my friend spiderjohn, has...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;21&nbsp;2011 at 1:29pm<br /><br />TonyB, my friend spiderjohn, has been expressing these sentiments for many years, but city hall doesn't take heed. The "rainy day" fund was usually kept at 25%, ergo, the name "rainy day", to sustain that for an unexpected catastropic event, loss of revenues, storm sewer collapse over a large area, an so forth.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>That fund is now 15%, so the city is now in a position if memory serves me, to have about&nbsp;90 days of funding in the event they lost a company here, there, to keep some degree of short term stabilization. The State deal looks to me to be a "huge" roll of the dice. They would be better served in my humble opinion, to visit the river gambling boats, than roll cash on this project. Add in State, an the other "investment" properties owned, and the City of Middletown has an interesting&nbsp;"portfolio" of investments, none which yield much if any return. At best, some may contribute to debt service.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Get out of investment, let hdege fund managers handle that, provide security, infrastructure support,&nbsp;pick up trash once a week. and turn the water on for the shower head. Better to take $1,000,000 and buy Berkshire Hathaway and own 20 shares Buffet manages, than property depreciating in valuation awaiting the wrecking ball or the warm heat of 5,000 Cincinnati State students holding their annual reunion at The Manchester dancing the night away. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Lesson 101----know what you do well, the 'signature forte, stay out of "what you don't know and don't do well."&nbsp;&nbsp;That would be exemplifed by the Commons, the City Mart---the rrof that was on, that was off, the bike path, the reviatlization of downtown, the Atrium deal, ....&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>The Downtown Fund FACTS :   acclaro,You have put your...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=755">TonyB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4137<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;21&nbsp;2011 at 8:55am<br /><br />acclaro,<div>&nbsp;</div><div>You have put your finger on the very problem we have now in our city government; instead of doing the business of government, the government is trying to BE a business. The problem there is; THEY ARE TERRIBLE AT IT!!! I thought that MMF was supposed to be the non-profit corporation that dealt with the "business" of economic development. I still don't have a clue as to what they are doing and why we aren't hearing about it. GET BACK TO BASICS!!! Protection of the citizens and their property, infrastructure repair and improvement, legislation to improve the business climate. Instead, we have a government willing to throw tax dollars at every wink and promise while business leaves and this city becomes one large cesspool!!! Get it together elected officials or get your promotion and come back to being ordinary citizens!!!</div>]]>
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