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   <title>Meet The Candidate Event : Don&amp;#039;t forget the &amp;#034;Meet...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2011 at 4:15pm<br /><br /><FONT size=2>Don't forget the "Meet the Candidates" event today, Thursday 9/29/2011, from 5:00 - 6:30 p.m. at Java Johnnies, Central Avenue!!!</FONT><DIV></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2011 at 10:06am<br /><br />Mr. Nagy, it is I who learns a great deal from your postings, and voice. You speak with clarity, and have composure, and always take the "high road." Few do, and its important to have that seen and reflected often, as you always do, I thank you for that. A good lession for life and daily interaction.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I view this election pretty darn simple, there two two camps of leaders, the incumbants, the new candidates. Many on council see the city as they choose to see it, rosey, ignoring reality, and always masking the grim statistics and reality within Oz, or those whom can acknowledge the challenges, embrace them, while remaining above the fray and showing class.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If you want to be told what to do, and ignored, cast your vote for Mr. Picard, Mr. Mulligan, and Ms. Mort. If you wish to have your voice heard, to be respected that opinions matter,&nbsp;and that challenges remain, which solutions can be found, regardless of the difficulties, there are many strong alternatives. I LiKE MIKE and Paul Nagy are two I LIKE, as I can hear, I am not deaf, and open ears is a refreshing change to many in need of hearing aids and unshack themselves from the cloak and dagger of the Yale skull and bone silence.&nbsp;Something in my head leads me to believe Ohio may be putting some cash behind the curtain in the deal with Boston at Cates and Kasisch's level. Too smooth and filled with risk, to not see bigger tuna in the ocean than placating to the need of Middletown.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Oh well, get those classes rolling, does make for an attractive bedroom community when you have MUM and C State in town, at .25% of cost of Miami, UC, OSU, and Kenyon. Of course, if you can get into Kenyon, $$$ is not an issue. Roll em, roll em, get those students moving, Raw Hide! Make it 10,000 by 15.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=294">AKBobby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2011 at 7:59am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Paul Nagy" alt="Originally posted by Paul Nagy" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Paul Nagy wrote:</strong><br /><br />Acclaro,<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As usual your observations are quite poignant and important. I am giving them lots of thought and will apply them as opportunity and ability allow. Please keep posting your conclusions and ideas.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thank you.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pn</div><div>p.s.&nbsp; No apologisies needed. This is what makes democracy great.</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Paul I dont know you but I really like your ideas on here. I wish you the best in your campaign and maybe you can get this ship righted!</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>GOOD LUCK</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=294">AKBobby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2011 at 7:58am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by acclaro" alt="Originally posted by acclaro" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>acclaro wrote:</strong><br /><br />I have a personla friend whom lives within a house or two of Mr. Van Ardsdale, the police chief, on Rosedale and across from the Akers (young son, apernts who founded the packaing company). He told me the chief was home every day about 4 PM, walking his two dogs, mowing grass, and usually can be seen 2-3 times a week at Steak and Shake, official business of course, discussing budgets over breakfast. Yesterday, he accompanided Mr. Mulligan in the morning, to pay homage to Dr. Owens. Strange a police chief is sent to be an official representive of Middletown, but he's licking his chops at fines for the new students arriving in waves.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Vet's point on Mr. Becker and the triple dip is accurate, these chiefs, that was my point to Mr. VA, chief, get straight salary, detective work is where the real overtime is, so when they retore, they want to make up for lost time, and every dime they can make. Public life, what a life. What a statement the "teachers" at State sent for being out a week, and how much overhead did Cincinnati State absorb through hirung adjunct teachers for a quarter, or is that all a ruse?&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Progress is not being made in Middletown. State won't bring it, everything that has happened is magnet business brought in for AK, other established companies.&nbsp;A nice campaign message for the non incumbants as to where in the heck is this town heading, other than south.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><div></div><div>I dont understand your point on this Acclaro. Is the Police chief not supposed to be home at 4pm and walk his dogs? Is he not supposed to take a lunch during the work day? Whats wrong with eating at steak and shake 2-3 days a week as you said? Should he eat in his office? Would that make you feel better? Help me understand your point? So regardless of all the council meetings, advisory board meetings, public relations things after normal hours&nbsp;a chief does, he should do more? You lost me. What hours do you want him to work? What is acceptable to you? I dont know the new chief as well, but I know the last one probably put in 60 hours a week minimum and the chief in Middletown dont get paid what the Fairfield and Hamilton chiefs make. </div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I agree progress is very slow in middletown but to complain the chief is home at 4pm to walk his dogs is reaching. Maybe the chief is there at 7am everyday. who knows.</div><div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18">spiderjohn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2011 at 7:42am<br /><br />I feel that I have a pretty good grasp of most candidates and what they represent.<div>I have pretty much decided who will get my votes and why.</div><div>So I will probably skip the forums unless asked to participate as a questioneer(?)</div><div>Yes--I have done this b4, appointed by the Chamber--slim chance of it happening again though.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Change is necessary if we are going to move anywhere.</div><div>Until bright younger faces emerge, I 100% support</div><div>Paul Nagy for mayor and Mike Presta as my ward rep.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I hope that the&nbsp; C St deal pays off eventually, especially since my wife and I have contributed to Dr.Owens' scholarship fund.&nbsp; Seems like an expensive and round-about&nbsp; way to do business, and our Council/Mayor take way too much credit for doing little more than grovelling and throwing money at the feet of Dr.Owens.</div><div>C St has controlled the cards throughout imo--all we have done is cave in whenever requested.</div><div>Should be a positive move in an area completely void of direction.</div><div>I hope that it works and is a game-changer.</div><div>Culinary school food was excellent at the coronation--we could use a couple of new restaurants in the city.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Obviously I don't understasnd or know enough about this arrangement to have more of an opinion, not that my opinion matters. The citizen and his right to know/be informed continues to take a back seat here, and that is probably my biggest concern about local govt., since they have a very poor tracck record of success. Time for all new faces on MMf. Do those terms ever expire, or were these people appointed for life? How many past and current city employees serve on this body?</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Paul Nagy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2011 at 4:53am<br /><br />Acclaro,<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As usual your observations are quite poignant and important. I am giving them lots of thought and will apply them as opportunity and ability allow. Please keep posting your conclusions and ideas.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thank you.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pn</DIV><DIV>p.s.&nbsp; No apologisies needed. This is what makes democracy great.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;29&nbsp;2011 at 12:30am<br /><br />Mr. Nagy, my apologies I did not take nor have the time to make my point more artfully. You are most homorable and gracious. I was making an attempt to show graciousness can be misperceived. Part of the undertaking at the C State deal, is to demonstrate "progress" bu city council and the Mayor. That being said, you are solidfying your opponet's position, in a classic "gentelmen's" manner.&nbsp;Nice guys rarely finish first in elections. They will say they have to keep momentum going. Wait and see.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>City won't lose much on deal, and better to hold buildings, than to have the whole downtown torn down. Correct, lets hope C State puts 12,000 students annually in Middletown, with every program they have. Failure not an option, and nicely structured deal. Teach it, and they will come.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Apologies again for my less than skiffully disguised remark. &nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;28&nbsp;2011 at 10:30pm<br /><br /><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri><FONT face=Arial>Ground Swat:<DIV></FONT>You are correct.&nbsp; and even though I plan to attend all three of the "Meet the Candidates" events, I thought I would post something here to let folks know a little more about me and how I think.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Every so often during the last several years, someone has challenged me to come up with my plan for “community revitalization” or “economic development” and I have posted a “Ten Point Plan” that I thought was a good start.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; This began long ago, on the Middletown Journal's former blogs.</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN>Since I am now running for City Council, I thought perhaps it was time to dust it off and have another look at it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I have done so, and to me, it rings just as true today as it did several years ago when I first dashed it off, so here it is, complete with my informal introduction from years ago:<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>****************************************************************<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>While I am sure that I, and several of the others that have posted here, either alone or in concert, could come up with a viable plan in just a few days, such a plan would be much too long to post here.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>Conceiving the plan Is not the problem. The problem is to convince anyone at City Hall that any mere ordinary citizen, outside the inner circle, can possibly have anything valuable to say.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>All that aside, here is a brief outline, with no detail of course, of the plan:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>1. Immediately reprioritize the city budget, recognizing that the first purposes of city government are public safety and infrastructure. Look at ALL areas of city finances, and NOT just those accounts that recent administrations have chosen to call the “General Fund”.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>2. Immediately eliminate all charitable, cultural, entertainment, amusement, and similar items from the budget, at least until city finances improve.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>3. Immediately resume having City Council work session in public, as well as conducting all other public business in public.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>4. Immediately remove all Council members, relatives of Council members, or any other persons having possible conflicts of interest from all public boards and commissions, and from the boards of directors of any organizations receiving tax money from the city of Middletown.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>5. Immediately begin making Middletown truly business friendly. Revise all building codes that unnecessarily add to a potential business’s costs, such as unnecessary dormers, unneeded wall breaks, and similar architectural features.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>6. Immediately issue a policy paper to all city department heads, instructing them to distribute it, and explain it,&nbsp;to all employees that there will no longer be any unwarranted impediments to business development. Further instruct them to explain to all employees that there is no such thing, for example, as “the right architect“. The right architect is any architect licensed to practice in the state of Ohio, or licensed in any state with reciprocity agreements with the state of Ohio, and that any employee found violating these directives will be summarily discharged.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>7. Immediately issue a policy paper to all city employees involved in engineering, planning, zoning, and other business development-related fields instructing them that personal preferences can no longer be tolerated while conducting city business. Include in this policy paper instructions that no city employee’s tastes shall be imposed upon, or even suggested to, any potential business enterprise, and to purge all local codes and ordinances of personal preferences. Include a warning that any violation of this policy will result in immediate summary discharge.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>8. Immediately abolish all city codes or ordinances banning, or even discouraging, signs visible from I-75, or from the surface streets in the areas surrounding Interstate highway interchanges, when such signs advertise goods, products, businesses or services available in the City of Middletown. <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>9. Immediately and in writing, explain to the City Law Director that his first duty is to the citizens of Middletown, and that this duty supersedes any directives from city council.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN style="mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>10. Empanel truly independent charter review committee, with the purpose of proposing changes to the city charter that: A) Mandate that Middletown’s city government return to the true purposes of a municipal government; B) Emphasize the division of powers within the city; C) Ease the procedure for recalling elected officials, and the implementation of the immediate discharge of non-elected officials, who violate city ordinances, charter provisions, or State of Ohio General Law; and D) incorporates the Ohio Attorney General’s “seven tests for compatibility of offices” into the Charter.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA" lang=EN>As you can see, this is getting too long for this venue already, but perhaps you get the idea.</SPAN></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=797">ground swat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;28&nbsp;2011 at 5:25pm<br /><br />Again know offense but there are other manners in finding out about the candidates.&nbsp; ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Paul Nagy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4141<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Sep&nbsp;28&nbsp;2011 at 12:45pm<br /><br />Acclaro,<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So much to talk about from your post that I'm not sure where to begin.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The issue is not that of lack of attendance to listen to ideas and positions is a sign of apathy but the fact of not getting involved is certainly a sign of apathy and has ben historic in Middletown and that is why we have come to where we are. (Long run-on sentence). However, I want to know the ideas and positions of all candidates that are going to direct our lives and handle our tax money. Look where we are now because we didn't really find out where many council members stood.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As far as complementing the Mayor and council to sell buildings to a Boston based firm, I don't know anyone who did that. I was complimenting them on bringing Cincinnti State to Middletown. I think its a small step in the right direction even though I strongly disagree about the manner in which they did it . The building situation is a tragic blunder from beginning to end.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I think we should all care that it works out for Middletown.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As always thanks for your posts. You always make us think.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pn</DIV>]]>
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