Middletown Forum : Kiwanis Forum http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Middletown Forum : City Council : Kiwanis Forum Tue, 06 Oct 2026 22:56:46 +0000 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:24:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.12 360 www.middletownusa.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4171 Middletown Forum http://middletownusa.com/images/blog-logo.jpg http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/ Kiwanis Forum : Lets not forget these folks stepped... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30221&title=kiwanis-forum#30221 Author: ground swat
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 15 2011 at 9:24pm

Lets not forget these folks stepped up.  I didn't see a line of folks waiting on seats last Thurs. night when I watched the forum on TVM. Change the world in 4yrs?  7 people making everyone happy ?  Caught up in the machine of "Making everyone happy".]]> Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:24:13 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30221&title=kiwanis-forum#30221 Kiwanis Forum : With absolutely no disrepect intended... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30209&title=kiwanis-forum#30209 Author: acclaro
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 15 2011 at 11:11am

With absolutely no disrepect intended to Mr. Mulligan, as he is a bright man, and all, why would a debate be necessary? If you read his campaign literature done in the Notre Dame green (go Irish!), it says he is a man with standing in the community, he is educated, he comes from a good fa,ily, and he cares about Middletown. But what has in he done in four years that is not addresses in his campaign literature? He says nothing about an accomplishment of any sort, but vote for him because he has standing and is educated.
 
Agreed, he has an honorable family. Agreed, Miami U is a fine school, and got to love the top 20 ranking in accounting and finance. Agreed his family is well known in Middletown. But what has he done?
 
By his own brochure, he has indicated he has accomplished nothing. A nice man, but he is also educated. He is a commercial banker. Do commercial bankers give loans without doing due diligence, checking the income level and crdit score, Moody's rating? I don't think so. Why then, did he not apply that knowledge in the Cincinnati State dealings, with the airport, with the golf course, and so many other financial decisons he has specific and notable epertise to bring to the table?
 
Mr. Nagy doesn't need to debate Mr. Mulligan, he just needs to have considerable name recognition, and say, if elected, unlike the present Mayor, I promise you I will work for the people, all residents, and I will have a few significant accomplishments at the end of my term.
 
That statement and campaign promise, is more than Mr. Mulligan delivered in four years on council and as Mayor, and his own campaign material confirms such.
 
 
]]> Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:11:37 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30209&title=kiwanis-forum#30209 Kiwanis Forum : Mullethead Mulligan wont debate... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30203&title=kiwanis-forum#30203 Author: LMAO
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 15 2011 at 1:15am

Mullethead Mulligan wont debate Mr. Nagy,he knows his goose would be cooked.Big%20smile]]> Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:15:36 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30203&title=kiwanis-forum#30203 Kiwanis Forum : Mike, when I saw the fact it had... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30198&title=kiwanis-forum#30198 Author: acclaro
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 14 2011 at 5:28pm

Mike, when I saw the fact it had cost the city about $1.6 Mm, it just seemed the city wasn't looking at ways to mitigate their finnacial exposure. I comprehend the legal aspects Mr. Adkins made reference associated with a public entity getting the property tax break, but between Miller Brewer in Trenton, MUM, AK Steel, the Atrium, all those businesses in West Chester, I would think there is a manner to unloaf Weatherwax and at least recover the debt service and income lost. Goodness, AK used to have a park, maybe have it bought by them for their employees in Middletown and West Chester, great recruiting tool. It surely isn't benefiting the city and only a handful of its citizens. Perhaps Butler Cty would want in the action---a county public course, not a city? Where's the creative thinking here?
 
With the debt service at Weatherwax, airport, Cincinnati State, and Atrium (as well as Neyer), that tally is up north of $5 Mm, pretty hefty. Too many $$$ going out, too few $$$ coming in.
 
Maybe they could lease it to HEP, who packages to to C State? Thinking out of box, instead of inside it, always helps.   
]]> Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:28:49 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30198&title=kiwanis-forum#30198 Kiwanis Forum : Acclaro, Absolutely no offense... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30197&title=kiwanis-forum#30197 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 14 2011 at 5:14pm

Acclaro,
 
Absolutely no offense taken!!!  I was just trying to lighten things up by introducing a little levity (apparently very little) at my own expense.
 
But I was serious about thinking your suggestion regarding corporate sponsorships for Weatherwax having merit.
]]> Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:14:43 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30197&title=kiwanis-forum#30197 Kiwanis Forum : I attended the debate... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30196&title=kiwanis-forum#30196 Author: randy
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 14 2011 at 4:17pm

I attended the debate yesterday evening took some video thatwill be posted later.

My thoughts are that all the candidates did a great job. Mr.Nagy brought up a couple of good points about two brothers running and possiblebeing on council together. I am sure there is nothing legally wrong with this,but to me it just doesn’t look right. I read that the Mayor accepted the inviteto debate Paul, but actually what he said sounds like a good idea, I will thinkabout that. That means no I think. I would love to see it and MUSA would bethere for sure.

 

A few of the questions were pointless; issue 2 was a wasteof 10 minutes as no one really answered the question. The section 8 talk was,just what it always has been from current members …talk. I do agree with Mr.Pickard that there is no easy fix, none that will save the city over night. Ialso agree with him on the downtown topic. Certain nights you drive downtownand it is jammed packed with people. But it doesn’t change the fat that on thesame street or over one street is some of the biggest crime areas in town. Idrive Central almost daily and see some strange things going on.

While I do think there should be a time limit on responses,some of the issues being addressed cannot be answered in such a short time. Notsure how you fix this, but I would really like to hear more from each personrunning. I would like to see people ask questions direct to a candidate fillout a card walk to the podium and ask away.

In my opinion there are some really good candidates running,and some that have no business being up there at all. I am hoping that at thenext forum the questions asked will be tougher and get to the heart  of what is wrong in this town. 

]]> Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:17:27 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30196&title=kiwanis-forum#30196 Kiwanis Forum : No offense intended. Simply meant... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30193&title=kiwanis-forum#30193 Author: acclaro
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 14 2011 at 2:55pm

No offense intended. Simply meant better to campaign and get out your voters, than to rely on TV Middletown and a few venues to move up to grand heights in the polls. Unfortunately, Charlie Rose and Meet the Press aren't covering Middletown this election cycle (unless AJ Smith doesn't pay his $40,000 fine for campsign law violations). There is a fire sale on buildings downtown, why not throw in Weatherwax? Great drawl for MUM and C State faculty recruitment and retention.   ]]> Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:55:47 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30193&title=kiwanis-forum#30193 Kiwanis Forum : acclaro wrote:... get out the... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30189&title=kiwanis-forum#30189 Author: Mike_Presta
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 14 2011 at 2:27pm

Originally posted by acclaro acclaro wrote:

... get out the playbook that gets out 10,000 voters who will vote for you, and get them to the polls. ...
Hmm...perhaps I'll talk to my campaign manager about getting a van to make shuttle runs between some of the local taverns and the polls??? LOL LOL LOL
 
On a serious note: I like the idea of "corporate memberships" to Weatherwax. I don't know if it will fly, but it is certainly worthy of consideration!!!
]]> Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:27:52 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30189&title=kiwanis-forum#30189 Kiwanis Forum : A word of caution to Mike Presta,... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30177&title=kiwanis-forum#30177 Author: acclaro
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 14 2011 at 10:07am

A word of caution to Mike Presta, Paul Nagy, others whom have not heald office in Middletown. Of course it is self evident, you have to state a position and make points of differentiation. My cautionary words are to the heart of any small town campaign. Debates are not going to get alot of cloverage, I doubt if there are ever 1,000 people who watch TV Middletown. The debates got absolutely no coverage in the Journal, and you can bet the Journal will also give their endorsement to those who they have been told, are better known in town. They play it "politically correct."
 
Don't let the clock run out debating when few are tuning in, get out the playbook that gets out 10,000 voters who will vote for you, and get them to the polls. The debates will not do it. Maybe in a national election, but never in a local one.
 
Read where Weatherwax has lost > $ I Mm since the a990's, and averaging about $150,000 a year through 2016, beyond. What are they doing about it? Nothing. Where are the solutions, why not pay Greg Pratt another $80,000 to have AK pay a coprorate membership for all workers for $250,000, the Atroim and Premiere for $50,000, Magnode, $10,000., SunCoke $5,000, etc.
 
It is so obvious the speacial interests are getting the attention. Memo to ASJ: When and why is a top 10 Gold Course such as Weatherwax a benefit to Middletown, when it isn't bringing in buisnesses, and it is not a 'brand'. This is the problem with council, city leadership, and the team that runs the city. They just don't understand business, what drives it, how to turn it around.
 
Stay on message, its simple. Acknowledge Middletown has problems, and these notions that Cincinnati State are going to turn it around, are bogus. That's more than your incumbant opponent will ever concede, and that's your point of first differentiation. 
]]> Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:07:58 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30177&title=kiwanis-forum#30177 Kiwanis Forum : If true on the Nagy/Mulligan debate... http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30171&title=kiwanis-forum#30171 Author: VietVet
Subject: 4171
Posted: Oct 14 2011 at 6:43am

If true on the Nagy/Mulligan debate challenge, am surprised Mulligan accepted. In the past, he gave me the impression that he didn't have to do things like that, being so assured of his winning the election on MMF money backing and name recognition each time he ran. Wonder why he changed his mind this time. Wonder if it will really happen or is just some passification rhetoric on his part?

Now, I would really like to see a Presta/Mort debate. Would shed some light on how much Mort really knows about the issues as opposed to the PR gibberish/rose-colored crap we often hear from her about the city. How about it Ms. Mort. Are you prepared to debate the issues of the city? ]]> Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:43:40 +0000 http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4171&PID=30171&title=kiwanis-forum#30171