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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities : Mr. Nagy, I wouldn&amp;#039;t call...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=853">Stanky</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;09&nbsp;2011 at 10:43am<br /><br />Mr. Nagy, I wouldn't call your involvement much of "a campaign".  I think I saw all of one yard sign.  No advertising, no appreciable fundraising.  Just an attention-getting call for a debate.  <br /><br />As acclaro has alluded to, being contrarian (aka, most MUSA posters) is not a campaign.  ]]>
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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities :   Mr. Nagy,Thank you for offering...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=952">Jack Black</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;09&nbsp;2011 at 10:05am<br /><br />Mr. Nagy,<div>&nbsp;</div><div>Thank you for offering the voters the hope for change and not the continuance of the status quo.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>May GOD bless you and yours.</div>]]>
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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities :   Paul Nagy wrote:&#194;&#160;&#194;&#160; Thank...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=114">VietVet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;09&nbsp;2011 at 6:23am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Paul Nagy" alt="Originally posted by Paul Nagy" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Paul Nagy wrote:</strong><br /><br />   <strong>Thank you everyone who supported me in this campaign. It is greatly appreciated. </strong><br /><div><strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;   Paul Nagy</strong></div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />You had my vote Paul. Saw Mulligan standing outside old Rosedale school yesterday afternoon as I was entering the gym to vote. He was talking to some fireman holding a "No on Issue 2" sign. As I looked at him and that seemingly smug facial expression he has, I thought about Hunter S. Thompson and his theme of "fear and loathing". Kinda fit at the time. Fear for the future of this town and loathing for the people like him who created this nightmare we are living here. The problem still exists. It has now been extended by the election results. I wait for the final hammer to be brought down on this town. The destruction will continue. It is now a matter of time with no reasonable people on council anymore. Disgusting. ]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=213">Paul Nagy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;09&nbsp;2011 at 6:05am<br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp; <strong>Thank you everyone who supported me in this campaign. It is greatly appreciated. </strong><DIV><strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Paul Nagy</strong></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities : Very valid points. In fairness...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;02&nbsp;2011 at 9:45am<br /><br />Very valid points. In fairness at least to the Mulligan campaign, the crew who placed his signs in my area went well back of the sidewalk and were in complete compliance across the board. Some of these violations may have been the resident moving them after mowing, or not knowing the law. I haven't seen many for Mr. Picard, and his were placed correctly which were seen. I think everyone tried to place them properly, but a few moved by the resident, by accident, is my thought. &nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities :           I do find...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=101">Mike_Presta</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 11:41pm<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><font face="Calibri">I do find it odd that the very same people who want weordinary citizens to be fined $100 per day if your paint is peeling or if yourgutter is sagging, have no problem at all planting their signs illegally in thepublic rights-of-way!!!<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><font face="Calibri">I have taken pains to be certain that all of my signs wereplaced at least a couple of feet back from the sidewalks. (Usually this puts them well out of the right-of-way).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>In the few instances where there were nosidewalks, I tried to gauge the right-of-way line from power poles, hydrants, ditchlines, and similar indicators to at least comply with the spirit of the law:<o:p></o:p></font></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><font size="2"><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "CGTimes","serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: CGTimes;'>§ 1272.04 </span><b><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "CGTimes,Bold","serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "CGTimes,Bold";'>Middletown - Planning and Zoning Code<o:p></o:p></span></b></font></p><font size="2"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in;"><font size="2"><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "CGTimes","serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: CGTimes;'>(b)</span><i><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "CGTimes,Italic","serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "CGTimes,Italic";'>Signs not requiring a permit.<o:p></o:p></span></i></font></p><font size="2"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 1in; line-height: normal; mso-layout-grid-align: n&#111;ne;"><font size="2"><span style='font-family: "CGTimes","serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: CGTimes;'>(7) </span><i><span style='font-family: "CGTimes,Italic","serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "CGTimes,Italic";'>Electionsigns. </span></i><span style='font-family: "CGTimes","serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: CGTimes;'><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Political signs not exceeding 32 square feet inoutside area, single or double faced, and </font></span></font><span style='font-family: "CGTimes","serif"; font-size: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: CGTimes;'><font size="2"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">maximum height of five feet in residential </font>zonesor without size restrictions in all other zones. Such sign shall not beanimated or illuminated. Such signs shall not be placed earlier than 30calendar days before any election. Such signs shall be removed by the propertyowner or lessee within one week following any election. <strong><font color="#ff0000">No election sign shallbe placed in the public right-of-way.</font></strong></font></span><o:p></o:p></p></font>]]>
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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities : acclaro I was referring to Mr...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=796">Middletown29</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 6:03pm<br /><br />acclaro<br />I was referring to Mr Nagy]]>
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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities : Apologies Middletown29, I was...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=334">acclaro</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 6:00pm<br /><br />&nbsp; Apologies Middletown29, I was uncertain who you were referring. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities : &amp;#034;Better to remain silent...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=796">Middletown29</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 7:06am<br /><br /> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt!"]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>A Tale Of Two Cities :      I find the signs around...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.middletownusa.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=640">Richard Saunders</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4205<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Nov&nbsp;01&nbsp;2011 at 4:14am<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="2">I find thesigns around town quite telling.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Thevery ones who lecture us about keeping our city neat and clean, the ones whorefuse to allow our businesses to advertise, those who turn their noses up atany merchant who dares to violate their precious sign ordinances by even afraction of an inch, are the very ones who have placed many of their signs inviolation of the city sign ordinances.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span>They have their signs stuck smack within the right of way, closer to thepavement than the law allows, and often on public property.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>As usual, they flaunt the law.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>As usual, they seem to think that the lawsare meant only for “the little people” and not for them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>As usual, they act as if they are above thelaw.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></font></span></p><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="2">On the otherhand, we have the ones who champion our businesses and their right toadvertise, the ones who think our sign ordinances are too strict and that theystifle commerce. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span>They seem to have takencare to obey the sign laws with their few signs, even though they may disagreewith those laws.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><font size="2">Those of youwho have not yet decided should consider these attitudes before you cast yourballots.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>The next laws they flaunt orignore could easily affect you more directly.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>]]>
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